So, I know how easily this thread could possibly turn into a conspiracy thread where people accuse the mods/admins of all sorts of BS. I would like to ask that nobody turn this thread into this.
Essentially, I feel like some mods/admins (in this example, theymos) are being very unfair in scammer tag judgements.
In the Andrew Bitcoiner thread (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--143980), there are many accredited people in the Bitcoin community who have come forward and said that Andrew has scammed them. Theymos even implicitly agreed that the funds were stolen, yet he claims that since he didn't explicitly say that he couldn't steal out Bitcoins, that he's in the green.
By this logic, I could scam EVERYONE in this forum and not get a scammer tag. Simply because I didn't say that I couldn't in the contract!
By this logic, every scammer is not actually a scammer. Pirate is all cool, since he didn't ACTUALLY steal our Bitcoins... We didn't say he couldn't!
The difficulty with this case, IIRC, is that Andrew Bitcoiner's sites had terms which said that he could do whatever he wanted with deposited bitcoins. I might be willing to give him a scammer tag despite this, but this fact really strengthens his case, especially since not all users are affected.
There has never been a Terms of Service on his website (bitjack21). I don't understand where he came up with this. On the rules page, it says that the ToS is located at
https://bitjack21.com/tos.php, but it's a 404!
And then, my main point:
Even though he doesn't defend himself, I don't feel like the situation is clear enough for a scammer tag. Mostly because this is an external site with unclear status and agreements. I can't find a provable instance of him actually breaking any agreements.
He's essentially saying here that JUST BECAUSE he didn't agree that he wouldn't steal our BTC, he's allowed to. One would think this was implied!
I am not asking that theymos be kicked out of the forum or anything (because he owns it, iirc), but I would like to have a civilized (read: NO THROWING AROUND ACCUSATIONS) discussion about how the forum is to hand out scammer tags.
I fully accept that this forum is essentially a monarchy, and therefore theymos's decision is final, but I would think that the forum would want to make more fair judgements than this.