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Lucky you. I installed Armory on my both my Mac mini and and Windows 7 laptop. On the Mac, it run fine, I guess--it still takes about an hour to scan the transaction history, even if I only shut it down for 5 minutes--not the kind of wallet you want to have for "need-it-now" situations. So far, Armory appears to only be good for long-term storage. I can't believe how long it takes to get online. I would compare Armory's waste of time similar to the banks. Given how god-awful slow it is, I wouldn't commit ANYTHING to an Armory wallet that I might need in the next six months. Bump that! I can move Bitcoin between ALL of my other wallets faster than it takes Armory to sync.

On Windows, its worse. It gets to 17% of scanning the transaction history and stays there. It has been four days now, and Armory can't get past the 17% mark, after multiple attempts. Forget Armory! If I was billing out 1.5 BTC/hour to test their software, they would owe me 15 BTC.

I have installed using the link provided.  Everything seems good so far.  I will post again if any issues arise.  Thanks for your help!

I forgot to mention:  you must uninstall the 32-bit version before installing the new version.  I have no idea why, but the installer refuses to overwrite all the 32-bit installation files.  If you don't do this, Armory won't even start up.

I'm working on the updates now that will make all this scanning go away.  But it's still a little ways away.

Until then, I think I figured out that the 32-bit version (originally the only 0.88.1 version released) is the culprit.  Can you please download the 64-bit version and try it out.  I think because of the resource usage, the 32-bit binary is running out memory space.

Hopefully that will solve your problem until I finally get this RAM-reduction release out.

after a few short weeks, my original fix has been working, but now im getting stuck here:




So now armory sits stuck at scanning the transaction history... forever.   Only thing that fixes this issue is rebooting my computer.  ugh.

After making my post-

I closed Armory completely, opened Bitcoinqt, then opened Armory while Bitcoinqt was still running.  I used the button in Armory to close bitcoinqt and then rescan.  This fixed my issue.  It might help others.

I am having the same issue listed above.  My armory client sits with the screen shot posted below indefinitely.




I have removed all files from the bitcoin home directly with exception to the wallet.dat.  Armory re-scanned the block-chain from the start, and once it gets to 99% it just sits there forever.  Does anyone have any other ways to try and resolve this issue?

My current setup:
Win7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
8GB RAM
1TB Cavier Black HDD
50/25 mbps fiber connection


Armory 0.88.1
Bitcoinqt 0.8.1-beta

FWIW I just redownloaded the blockchain with a scent connection to a LAN bitcoind and it took closer to 48hrs.

There's clearly something that is going wrong on some systems.  Even my OSX, Win7 and Ubuntu VMs, which are on old-school platter HDDs and 4GB of RAM take 4-6 minutes. 

I don't mean to discount the necessity of the upcoming upgrades to avoid the scanning entirely ... that's in the works, regardless.  But there is something wrong if it takes that long.  Can you try the new version and tell me if really takes that long consistently through the scanning (because there's no a progress bar), or if it goes through scanning and then hangs for that long?

Also, if you want to keep using Armory and you can't resolve this, you might consider deleting the Bitcoin-Qt datadir, and letting it redownload... which should take about 4-6 hours!  So you wouldn't really be losing any time...

That is clearly unreasonable with that kind of RAM available.  I have 8GB and an SSD, it takes 3 minutes.  I would expect 4-5 with sata3 at most. 

Turns out I've been whitelisted for around a day to post in here and I didn't even notice the message saying I was....will teach me to check messages in future.

Have also had issues with armory taking ages with the blockchain, but this was just the first scanning of it. The reason I didn't get any further was because it was taking up so much resources on my laptop (T61 Thinkpad, it has dual core and thought it'd handle something like this easily, but maybe not. First time I've ever had a problem with a program slowing down like this too.) that I just had to stop trying. Couldn't really open firefox or browse properly because the whole laptop was crawling at a really slow pace. That was on windows though, and as I've already said a few times I botched a partition and have lost windows now, so maybe ubuntu will handle it better?

But either way, was just wondering how things are going with making it use less resources, and also if the scanning each time for long periods has been fixed? I'm mainly asking because I've only just started using bitcoin last night (due to partition mess though I lost my first wallet! No bunny run bitcoin bonus this time around...) but for over a week I've been reading up a decent bit and wanted to use this on a raspberry pi for cold storage once I got started after testing bitcoin out, so I knew that things were probably secure (if done properly.) from the off. Without this I don't think there's any other way of having a watching only wallet and that idea just seems like such a great way of doing things.

Thanks if you can let us know how things are going anyway, and I might try this again with ubuntu, because bitcoin-qt seems to load way faster, so maybe armory will also work this time around.

Don't worry guys... I know what to do   There's been a lot of life distractions, and I'm trying to finish some other Armory upgrades that both improve usability, and security.  After that (hopefully in the next couple days!) I'm going to crawl into a hole for 96 hours and not come out until the the RAM usage is reduced and the blockchain doesn't require rescanning on each load. 

Right now, Armory is still an advanced tool.  I haven't made it a priority, because I wanted to focus on unique features that no other program has, instead of having less features, but making it more usable. I'd rather have a program that 50% can't live without + 50% can't use... than a program that 95% of people can use, but don't see the advantage.  Unfortunately, that "50% can't use" is growing quickly, so that's why my priorities have shifted.

It's coming!

I also have this problem on Windows 7, 64bit with both the Bitcoin-Qt and Armory-clients installed not on default locations.
Else it works, but this constant rescanning upon each start make it practically useless for me for "fast" transactions.
For offline wallets it's ok to wait for me.

It would be great if this can be fixed, maybe by checkpointing and a Merkle tree hash upon all successfully validated transactions.

There should be a better way to deal with this. Armory should store the relevant UTXOs up to the latest bitcoind checkpoint. Therefore, it doesn't need to scan the whole blockchain every time it restarts.

Having the same issues (long startup and using insane amounts of RAM)

Ok thanks for the info guys I thought it only required 2GB, but I guess maybe that was a long time ago when the blockchain was much smaller!

In case it's helpful:

I'm running Armory on a mid 2009, Core 2 Duo 2.53 Ghz Macbook Pro, with 4GB RAM and OSX 10.8.2

installed armory compiling from source following Red Emeralds instructions on a bloated set up. Took 30/40 minutes to sync in each start and kept crashing

after a clean OS install it got better: now it takes between 10 to 20 minutes to sync, and it run flawlessly unless I open too many apps/tabs in browser, etc.

It uses Aprox. 1.6gb of RAM

No it doesn't.

It only stores a transaction index to where the transactions are on disk.  But there's 10+ million transactions, with hashes 32 bytes each, 20 byte file pointers, and some extra overhead.  It's not difficult to see you're approaching the order of magnitude of its current RAM usage.

On my system, it consumes about 1.5-2 GB RAM.  It used to be 400 MB.  But the index itself is growing too fast...

Armory stores the whole blockchain in RAM? Ohgodwhy?

It definitely should not take that long to scan.  On my computer, it takes about 3-5 minutes.  On my Windows VM, it's about 10 minutes.  Some people have reported 10-20 minutes.  Not ideal, but at least it's "usable."

The blockchain is not getting any smaller, and reports like this are increasing in number.  I hadn't planned to do this upgrade for a while, but Bitcoin's growth + SatoshiDice have started to hold me hostage.  That's why maintaining persistent blockchain data is top of my priority list (after I'm done with my current major upgrade).

However, you should be seeing the blockchain update.   There was a bug in 0.87 that especially affected users with long load times.  That was fixed in 0.87.2.  If it still doesn't update properly in 0.87.2... then I guess you should wait for the RAM update...