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THE OLD ONE IS ALSO THE NEW MAIN DOMAIN!
DOUBLOON.CO IS BACK
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Pretty neat game, however I'd suggest some changes to the interface to make it look better. For example, for some buttons the words extend over the background, making it look a bit funny. Also, the colors could be improved, however that is my opinion; some other people might not agree. Best of luck with your site!
We appreciate your feedback and you are not alone here , we have got this feedback ( about buttons and background ) from other users too and currently Patrick is working on it to make the UI better Cheers . Great to see a site that takes user feedback into consideration!
However, I visited the site again today and some of the placeholders are all over the place/out of place; is the site undergoing maintenance/UI changes?
I try my best an if you have something more to improve or to add... just tell me here.
the best thing to improve would be changing your domain name
dot tk is a free domain associated with scam and temporary short lived sites
just a suggestion,though but if you really care about the image of your game-buy a com ,net or any other good domain
Didn't pop in at Doubloon for a bit a decided to have a go and was initially scared that site was offline but then found out the new domain you are using; maybe updating original post with new temporary domain could be a good idea.
Am currently botting but am not sure on how to manage that jackpot multiplier feature: I click on multipliers button but nothing is displayed after I hit them; is everything authomated or what?
Are my "botting bets" benefiting the chance of hitting the jackpot?
And, if so, in case of luck which multiplier will I be applied?
Read this whole thread but couldn't figure out how it work.
Am currently botting but am not sure on how to manage that jackpot multiplier feature: I click on multipliers button but nothing is displayed after I hit them; is everything authomated or what?
Are my "botting bets" benefiting the chance of hitting the jackpot?
And, if so, in case of luck which multiplier will I be applied?
Read this whole thread but couldn't figure out how it work.
Pretty neat game, however I'd suggest some changes to the interface to make it look better. For example, for some buttons the words extend over the background, making it look a bit funny. Also, the colors could be improved, however that is my opinion; some other people might not agree. Best of luck with your site!
We appreciate your feedback and you are not alone here , we have got this feedback ( about buttons and background ) from other users too and currently Patrick is working on it to make the UI better Cheers . Great to see a site that takes user feedback into consideration!
However, I visited the site again today and some of the placeholders are all over the place/out of place; is the site undergoing maintenance/UI changes?
thx for your JP set up feedback.
lets take your proposal of a JP that hits 1 in 1000 bets. to me this JP would hit much to often and would not allow an attractive JP Prize
lets say player wagers 1000 x 1000 bits with a 1% HE= wager is 1 000 000 bits = app owner and MP/Investors split 1% = 10 000 bits is 5000 bits each side
what should app owner give as a JP prize in case he pays JP like bit exo is doing?
what JP Prize should MP/Investors give?
if each side gives 5000 bits JP Prize they did not earn 1 satoshi
what would be an acceptable JP Prize for this scenario in your opinion?
sure we could do the same for 1 in 10 000 bets chance to hit JP as your 2nd example and we get all numbers x 10
thx again
Oh, ok, I think I'm understanding your confusion now.
Nobody is "giving" anything. The jackpot prize is part of the house edge. It's similar to your lottery game, except instead of the "very large win" being the main prize, it's the secondary prize.
Let's say we play a game and I bet 1000 bits. 50% of the time, I win 500. 49% of the time I lose 1000. 1% of the time, I win 20000. When the 20000 hits, it's not being "given" by anyone, it's being won because it's a component of the game...a game that has a 4% house edge. The house (MP/app owner) outearns the house edge on most bets because on a small % of bets they will pay out a huge number. For example, look at the 20BTC jackpot bets...there's only a 2% house edge, but the player only wins 1.25% profit 96% of the time.
Glad to see movement and development of Doubloon.
Hope you continue to maintain and improve it.
Regards
Jm
Hope you continue to maintain and improve it.
Regards
Jm
You are the owner of Doubloon right? Why you dont even answer anything about your jackpot confusion? Until now people are confuse about your jackpot and your house edge. Just saw some quote that your site have different kind of house edge on each bet. Mind to explain this and stop all of this confusion?
please learn that he sold the app and is not owner anymore
good luck
Glad to see movement and development of Doubloon.
Hope you continue to maintain and improve it.
Regards
Jm
Hope you continue to maintain and improve it.
Regards
Jm
You are the owner of Doubloon right? Why you dont even answer anything about your jackpot confusion? Until now people are confuse about your jackpot and your house edge. Just saw some quote that your site have different kind of house edge on each bet. Mind to explain this and stop all of this confusion?
Glad to see movement and development of Doubloon.
Hope you continue to maintain and improve it.
Regards
Jm
Hope you continue to maintain and improve it.
Regards
Jm
glad to see you are still alive
Can anyone confirm, it is not possible now to bet more than 2000bits? I tried to make a bet more than 2000bits but it keeps loading and when i tried to refresh and made small bet it goes through and i tried betting again 2500 bits and it cant
but user ONM did a bet with 10 000 bits
that's probably made few minutes before MP team changes some codes in the system not to accept bets more than 2000bits on minesweepers games with JP like that (i guess)
can anyone try to bet more than 2000 bits now and verify this?
tried it with 2001bits bet and confirmed MP not accepting anymore, 2000bits bet goes through
Can anyone confirm, it is not possible now to bet more than 2000bits? I tried to make a bet more than 2000bits but it keeps loading and when i tried to refresh and made small bet it goes through and i tried betting again 2500 bits and it cant
but user ONM did a bet with 10 000 bits
lets take the 10k bits bet as an example
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/640260805
lets do the math or better you do it
Probability to hit the JP is 0.0003998866304755211% equals to a chance to hit the JP 1 in 250 070 bets
player will hit JP in average once in 250 070 bets
JP is wager (10k bits) x 2 000 = 20 BTC
now the most important part is (IMO) the math 10 000 wager x 250 070 = ? and then please do the math and find the result for 2% HE
I get 2% HE is ~50 BTC (50014000) expected profit for app owner and MP/Investors.
split is 50% so app owner gets ~ 25 BTC and MP/Investors get 25 BTC
MP/Investors pay out the 20 BTC JP so it is still +EV
from players view it is that he did a nice turnover of 10 000 bits wager x 250 070 = ? with 2% HE and get back in average 20 BTC JP
please correct me if I am wrong
imo a very confusing JP set up and we will try to find another JP for our sweeper
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/640260805
lets do the math or better you do it
Probability to hit the JP is 0.0003998866304755211% equals to a chance to hit the JP 1 in 250 070 bets
player will hit JP in average once in 250 070 bets
JP is wager (10k bits) x 2 000 = 20 BTC
now the most important part is (IMO) the math 10 000 wager x 250 070 = ?
and then please do the math and find the result for 2% HEI get 2% HE is ~50 BTC (50014000) expected profit for app owner and MP/Investors.
split is 50% so app owner gets ~ 25 BTC and MP/Investors get 25 BTC
MP/Investors pay out the 20 BTC JP so it is still +EV
from players view it is that he did a nice turnover of 10 000 bits wager x 250 070 = ? with 2% HE and get back in average 20 BTC JP
please correct me if I am wrong
imo a very confusing JP set up and we will try to find another JP for our sweeper
You're forgetting about the ~96% of the time that the player wins 125 bits.
imo it is not the question if a player win or lose a bet. it is the 2% HE tha counts. lets take a simple example and a player wagers 1000 x 100 bits with a 2% HE
player wagered 100k bits and a la longue each 100k turnover he loses the 2% HE = 2000 bits
or did I misunderstood your answer thx
I'm trying to understand your confusion. It seems like you don't understand how house edge works? In the bitsweeper, there are three different outcomes: either the player wins a small amount, the player wins an extremely large amount, or the player loses his wager. To adjust the house edge, you just change the frequency/likelihood of those events.
If a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
I understand how HE works
and you are confirming it withIf a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
maybe I dont understand the sweeper HE implementation
user @Bunt said that each click is a new bet and if he is right and IMO he is right
then each bet with 2% HE has its own math and each bet with 0.2% HE has its own math namely according to the sample you agreed on
If a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
what is your opinion regarding this JP set up? is it a good one? as I mentioned before we are looking for a good JP set up for our sweeper
thx for bearing wth me
Each click is a new bet, yes. If I bet 1000 and win 12.5 and click on another square, I'm now betting 1012.5 on that next click.
My opinion is that a 2% house edge is way too high and I personally don't like the 1-in-250k jackpot structure. It's so infrequent that it'll realistically never hit (for any individual) and because of that drives the effective house edge up even more. I'd much prefer a jackpot that hits in the 1-in-1000 to 1-in-10000 range.
thx for your JP set up feedback.
lets take your proposal of a JP that hits 1 in 1000 bets. to me this JP would hit much to often and would not allow an attractive JP Prize
lets say player wagers 1000 x 1000 bits with a 1% HE= wager is 1 000 000 bits = app owner and MP/Investors split 1% = 10 000 bits is 5000 bits each side
what should app owner give as a JP prize in case he pays JP like bit exo is doing?
what JP Prize should MP/Investors give?
if each side gives 5000 bits JP Prize they did not earn 1 satoshi
what would be an acceptable JP Prize for this scenario in your opinion?
sure we could do the same for 1 in 10 000 bets chance to hit JP as your 2nd example and we get all numbers x 10
thx again
lets take the 10k bits bet as an example
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/640260805
lets do the math or better you do it
Probability to hit the JP is 0.0003998866304755211% equals to a chance to hit the JP 1 in 250 070 bets
player will hit JP in average once in 250 070 bets
JP is wager (10k bits) x 2 000 = 20 BTC
now the most important part is (IMO) the math 10 000 wager x 250 070 = ? and then please do the math and find the result for 2% HE
I get 2% HE is ~50 BTC (50014000) expected profit for app owner and MP/Investors.
split is 50% so app owner gets ~ 25 BTC and MP/Investors get 25 BTC
MP/Investors pay out the 20 BTC JP so it is still +EV
from players view it is that he did a nice turnover of 10 000 bits wager x 250 070 = ? with 2% HE and get back in average 20 BTC JP
please correct me if I am wrong
imo a very confusing JP set up and we will try to find another JP for our sweeper
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/640260805
lets do the math or better you do it
Probability to hit the JP is 0.0003998866304755211% equals to a chance to hit the JP 1 in 250 070 bets
player will hit JP in average once in 250 070 bets
JP is wager (10k bits) x 2 000 = 20 BTC
now the most important part is (IMO) the math 10 000 wager x 250 070 = ?
and then please do the math and find the result for 2% HEI get 2% HE is ~50 BTC (50014000) expected profit for app owner and MP/Investors.
split is 50% so app owner gets ~ 25 BTC and MP/Investors get 25 BTC
MP/Investors pay out the 20 BTC JP so it is still +EV
from players view it is that he did a nice turnover of 10 000 bits wager x 250 070 = ? with 2% HE and get back in average 20 BTC JP
please correct me if I am wrong
imo a very confusing JP set up and we will try to find another JP for our sweeper
You're forgetting about the ~96% of the time that the player wins 125 bits.
imo it is not the question if a player win or lose a bet. it is the 2% HE tha counts. lets take a simple example and a player wagers 1000 x 100 bits with a 2% HE
player wagered 100k bits and a la longue each 100k turnover he loses the 2% HE = 2000 bits
or did I misunderstood your answer thx
I'm trying to understand your confusion. It seems like you don't understand how house edge works? In the bitsweeper, there are three different outcomes: either the player wins a small amount, the player wins an extremely large amount, or the player loses his wager. To adjust the house edge, you just change the frequency/likelihood of those events.
If a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
I understand how HE works
and you are confirming it withIf a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
maybe I dont understand the sweeper HE implementation
user @Bunt said that each click is a new bet and if he is right and IMO he is right
then each bet with 2% HE has its own math and each bet with 0.2% HE has its own math namely according to the sample you agreed on
If a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
what is your opinion regarding this JP set up? is it a good one? as I mentioned before we are looking for a good JP set up for our sweeper
thx for bearing wth me
Each click is a new bet, yes. If I bet 1000 and win 12.5 and click on another square, I'm now betting 1012.5 on that next click.
My opinion is that a 2% house edge is way too high and I personally don't like the 1-in-250k jackpot structure. It's so infrequent that it'll realistically never hit (for any individual) and because of that drives the effective house edge up even more. I'd much prefer a jackpot that hits in the 1-in-1000 to 1-in-10000 range.
lets take the 10k bits bet as an example
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/640260805
lets do the math or better you do it
Probability to hit the JP is 0.0003998866304755211% equals to a chance to hit the JP 1 in 250 070 bets
player will hit JP in average once in 250 070 bets
JP is wager (10k bits) x 2 000 = 20 BTC
now the most important part is (IMO) the math 10 000 wager x 250 070 = ? and then please do the math and find the result for 2% HE
I get 2% HE is ~50 BTC (50014000) expected profit for app owner and MP/Investors.
split is 50% so app owner gets ~ 25 BTC and MP/Investors get 25 BTC
MP/Investors pay out the 20 BTC JP so it is still +EV
from players view it is that he did a nice turnover of 10 000 bits wager x 250 070 = ? with 2% HE and get back in average 20 BTC JP
please correct me if I am wrong
imo a very confusing JP set up and we will try to find another JP for our sweeper
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/640260805
lets do the math or better you do it
Probability to hit the JP is 0.0003998866304755211% equals to a chance to hit the JP 1 in 250 070 bets
player will hit JP in average once in 250 070 bets
JP is wager (10k bits) x 2 000 = 20 BTC
now the most important part is (IMO) the math 10 000 wager x 250 070 = ?
and then please do the math and find the result for 2% HEI get 2% HE is ~50 BTC (50014000) expected profit for app owner and MP/Investors.
split is 50% so app owner gets ~ 25 BTC and MP/Investors get 25 BTC
MP/Investors pay out the 20 BTC JP so it is still +EV
from players view it is that he did a nice turnover of 10 000 bits wager x 250 070 = ? with 2% HE and get back in average 20 BTC JP
please correct me if I am wrong
imo a very confusing JP set up and we will try to find another JP for our sweeper
You're forgetting about the ~96% of the time that the player wins 125 bits.
imo it is not the question if a player win or lose a bet. it is the 2% HE tha counts. lets take a simple example and a player wagers 1000 x 100 bits with a 2% HE
player wagered 100k bits and a la longue each 100k turnover he loses the 2% HE = 2000 bits
or did I misunderstood your answer thx
I'm trying to understand your confusion. It seems like you don't understand how house edge works? In the bitsweeper, there are three different outcomes: either the player wins a small amount, the player wins an extremely large amount, or the player loses his wager. To adjust the house edge, you just change the frequency/likelihood of those events.
If a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
I understand how HE works
and you are confirming it withIf a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
maybe I dont understand the sweeper HE implementation
user @Bunt said that each click is a new bet and if he is right and IMO he is right
then each bet with 2% HE has its own math and each bet with 0.2% HE has its own math namely according to the sample you agreed on
If a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
what is your opinion regarding this JP set up? is it a good one? as I mentioned before we are looking for a good JP set up for our sweeper
thx for bearing wth me
lets take the 10k bits bet as an example
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/640260805
lets do the math or better you do it
Probability to hit the JP is 0.0003998866304755211% equals to a chance to hit the JP 1 in 250 070 bets
player will hit JP in average once in 250 070 bets
JP is wager (10k bits) x 2 000 = 20 BTC
now the most important part is (IMO) the math 10 000 wager x 250 070 = ? and then please do the math and find the result for 2% HE
I get 2% HE is ~50 BTC (50014000) expected profit for app owner and MP/Investors.
split is 50% so app owner gets ~ 25 BTC and MP/Investors get 25 BTC
MP/Investors pay out the 20 BTC JP so it is still +EV
from players view it is that he did a nice turnover of 10 000 bits wager x 250 070 = ? with 2% HE and get back in average 20 BTC JP
please correct me if I am wrong
imo a very confusing JP set up and we will try to find another JP for our sweeper
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/640260805
lets do the math or better you do it
Probability to hit the JP is 0.0003998866304755211% equals to a chance to hit the JP 1 in 250 070 bets
player will hit JP in average once in 250 070 bets
JP is wager (10k bits) x 2 000 = 20 BTC
now the most important part is (IMO) the math 10 000 wager x 250 070 = ?
and then please do the math and find the result for 2% HEI get 2% HE is ~50 BTC (50014000) expected profit for app owner and MP/Investors.
split is 50% so app owner gets ~ 25 BTC and MP/Investors get 25 BTC
MP/Investors pay out the 20 BTC JP so it is still +EV
from players view it is that he did a nice turnover of 10 000 bits wager x 250 070 = ? with 2% HE and get back in average 20 BTC JP
please correct me if I am wrong
imo a very confusing JP set up and we will try to find another JP for our sweeper
You're forgetting about the ~96% of the time that the player wins 125 bits.
imo it is not the question if a player win or lose a bet. it is the 2% HE tha counts. lets take a simple example and a player wagers 1000 x 100 bits with a 2% HE
player wagered 100k bits and a la longue each 100k turnover he loses the 2% HE = 2000 bits
or did I misunderstood your answer thx
I'm trying to understand your confusion. It seems like you don't understand how house edge works? In the bitsweeper, there are three different outcomes: either the player wins a small amount, the player wins an extremely large amount, or the player loses his wager. To adjust the house edge, you just change the frequency/likelihood of those events.
If a player wagers 1000 bits 100 times, he will theoretically end up with 2000 less bits than he started with (assuming the house edge is 2%).
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