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Quote from: hilariousandco on February 09, 2014, 06:53:12 AM

Quote from: thms on February 09, 2014, 05:27:48 AM

It's just ridiculous that some people waste time worrying about what other people are wearing, it seems that they are locked inside this tiny box being tought worthless values. When I see a bunch of people going to work in suits, I picture a bunch of sheeps.

He can wear what he wants or go dressed like a drug-addled tramp, just as long as he doesn't come off as one. It's not how he looks or what he wears but the the way he acts and the content of his words. If you had no idea what Bitcoin was, you still wouldn't after watching that and the few other videos of him I've seen.

What he said seemed pretty coherent. No, he didn't give a beginners talk on what Bitcoin was, but he did talk about how it can change society and where the problems are.
We each add our individuality to things, and I really like where he is coming from. No, I wouldn't want him to be our spokesperson, but being decentralized, I
would hope we never have one...

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goodlivn

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I saw it, All news is good news. Being much like amir in many ways I can sympathise. He has probably spent the last few months living on Monster, Pot and Code sleeping 2hrs a night. At least he is doing something... Wink

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Quote from: thms on February 09, 2014, 05:27:48 AM

It's just ridiculous that some people waste time worrying about what other people are wearing, it seems that they are locked inside this tiny box being tought worthless values. When I see a bunch of people going to work in suits, I picture a bunch of sheeps.

He can wear what he wants or go dressed like a drug-addled tramp, just as long as he doesn't come off as one. It's not how he looks or what he wears but the the way he acts and the content of his words. If you had no idea what Bitcoin was, you still wouldn't after watching that and the few other videos of him I've seen.

thms

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It's just ridiculous that some people waste time worrying about what other people are wearing, it seems that they are locked inside this tiny box being tought worthless values. When I see a bunch of people going to work in suits, I picture a bunch of sheeps.

fluidjax

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Quote from: auzaar on February 09, 2014, 02:26:03 AM

Quote from: techstorm2 on February 06, 2014, 09:24:34 AM

Im from the UK and agree, hes embarrassing, he may be a great coder, if so he needs to concentrate on that and let the people who are better at pr and communication do their stuff, like Andreas.

Grin

So much for the free speech, your percieve your investment is at risk, so lets stop people from talking, like a dictator.

1) Amir has previously stated he does not have many bitcoins
2) Its not about free speech, its about representation. He is being portrayed by the BBC as someone who represents the Bitcoin community. But clearly based on the views in the thread, many people do not believe he is representative of us. No-one wants to shut him up, plenty of what he says is what many here believe. The problem is the professionalism and image he is portraying. It allows middle class British people (BBC News target audience) to neatly box up Bitcoin into the anti-establishment, hippy, anarchist type container, without making them think about what it really means. It therefore strengthens their prejudices and existing beliefs.
I am not blaming Amir here, he is doing his best and being true to what he believes. The fault lies with the bias in the BBC's reporting.
My other point, expressed earlier in the thread, is that I believe the BBC is not ignorant of this bias, so they are either negligent in their task of finding additional spokespeople, or the bias is by design.

auzaar

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Quote from: techstorm2 on February 06, 2014, 09:24:34 AM

Im from the UK and agree, hes embarrassing, he may be a great coder, if so he needs to concentrate on that and let the people who are better at pr and communication do their stuff, like Andreas.

Grin

So much for the free speech, your percieve your investment is at risk, so lets stop people from talking, like a dictator.

auzaar

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Why does he dress like a scruffy tramp if he so many bitcoins?

because he has so many bitcoins, he can afford to wear whatever he likes.

HenryRomp

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Separation of currency and state.

Quote from: augustocroppo on February 07, 2014, 04:22:05 AM

Quote from: HenryRomp on February 07, 2014, 04:00:05 AM

Quote from: augustocroppo on February 07, 2014, 12:10:24 AM

Quote from: KawalGrover on February 06, 2014, 02:23:57 PM

The Blockchain fixes some of the inherent corrupt practices of our monetary system.

Its not about making things 'equal' as in resource distribution. But more as in 'equal access' to capital so that whoever wants to sell something and as long as there is someone to buy it, then you create a free market. A removal of the middle man will allow much more friction-less transactions. In that kind of a decentralized world, capital will find the best uses through open decentralized exchanges. Some people may value wars more, some removing poverty. The idea of how to allocate resources won't be decided by a few bankers, but by a more open decentralized, freer and a more democratic society.

Amir was alluding to these issues. And given the constraints, I think he did a pretty good job.

LoL at "removal of the middle man".

Before Bitcoin:

Bank -> Exchange Market -> Bank

After Bitcoin:

Bank -> Exchange Market -> Blockchain -> Exchange Market -> Bank.

Howbout fuck your bank and I don't use fiat currency, period?

The catchphrase on Blockchain.info should be the rallying cry of bitcoin--"Be your own bank."

Hey numbskull, someone needs fiat currency to obtain BTC. Did you even know that?

Hey numbskull, if I decide right now to never touch another piece of paper money in my life, I'll still get filthy fuckin rich!

Anybody stupid enough to hold their wealth in paper is too stupid to be getting involved in bitcoin anyway.

Did it occur to you that some people have their savings in gold, and that you can exchange gold for bitcoin directly?

Did it occur to you that some people have businesses and accept bitcoin as payment, but then DON'T go trade the bitcoin out for paper, instead use it to PAY EMPLOYEES and BUY SUPPLIES and ORDER DINNER and PAY RENT and all the other stuff that you foolishly do with paper money?

HenryRomp

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Separation of currency and state.

Quote from: Bitcoiner_cph on February 07, 2014, 04:07:58 PM

Amir is one of the best spokes person for this freedom movement till date.

I don't see anything wrong with this interview, actually I am impressed that he get to speak about these things on mainstream media.

Amir, if you are reading this, then I just want to tell you to not pay much attention to the people that do not understand your words, and keep up the good work, hope to meet you one day!

Bitcoiner_cph.

+1

Amen

infoman

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It is not what he said but how he said it, ah

and how can you bring up an example of a 9y old setting up a gambling site? come on, even it is possible, you are not mentioning this on the bbc news talk in regards of bitcoin,
really bad PR, really bad

he could have come up with a great answer regarding anonymity as well, as BTC is not 100% anonymous, you can track transactions, and if you wanna spend your money, you eventually have to surface your identity in some form. Would have been a really nice answer and people would see btc much more serious than a very badly dressed guys tool to express freedom.

my 2c

Transisto

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Quote from: hilariousandco on February 08, 2014, 05:55:10 AM

Quote from: noob2001 on February 06, 2014, 07:14:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU2a4AfleTE

i heard amir lost all his bitcoins. Sad

amir is clearly losing it.

is he on drugs? because he looks completely fucked up.

not a great spokeperson for bitcoin.

Jeeze, I've never heard of this guy before, but watching that was extremely awkward and he doesn't look well. Maybe he's just not a confident speaker and was pretty anxious, but either way it was a very rambling and incoherent presentation.

With 5000+ posts, if you never heard of this guy, maybe you should listen more and talk less.

As much as I should hate the guy, I can agree with everything he said.

hilariousandco

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Quote from: noob2001 on February 06, 2014, 07:14:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU2a4AfleTE

i heard amir lost all his bitcoins. Sad

amir is clearly losing it.

is he on drugs? because he looks completely fucked up.

not a great spokeperson for bitcoin.

Jeeze, I've never heard of this guy before, but watching that was extremely awkward and he doesn't look well. Maybe he's just not a confident speaker and was pretty anxious, but either way it was a very rambling and incoherent presentation.

Bitcoiner_cph

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Amir is one of the best spokes person for this freedom movement till date.

I don't see anything wrong with this interview, actually I am impressed that he get to speak about these things on mainstream media.

Amir, if you are reading this, then I just want to tell you to not pay much attention to the people that do not understand your words, and keep up the good work, hope to meet you one day!

Bitcoiner_cph.

ChuckBuck

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better everyday ♥

Quote from: Abdussamad on February 07, 2014, 03:28:26 PM

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 07, 2014, 08:54:33 AM

Quote from: xDan on February 07, 2014, 07:58:28 AM

Someone mentioned "isn't there anybody more qualified".

Short answer: NO!

This is the BBC remember, and this guy is British. He probably -is- the most qualified person in the UK. And the BBC surely love to celebrate British achievements and put a British spin on things if they can. It's a very patriotic organisation.

Short answer: YES!

Andrea Antonopolous.

He shits on Amir and then eats him for breakfast in every facet.

He eats shit + people for breakfast?

Antonopolous is ok but I'm sick and tired of hearing his fan boys go on and on about him. There are other people in the bitcoin world who are quite articulate. Like gmaxwell.

I'm sure there are others as articulate or better in the community.

I was only stating Andreas>Amir when it comes to Bitcoin evangelism and putting on a good face. That is pretty much fact, no?

Abdussamad

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 07, 2014, 08:54:33 AM

Quote from: xDan on February 07, 2014, 07:58:28 AM

Someone mentioned "isn't there anybody more qualified".

Short answer: NO!

This is the BBC remember, and this guy is British. He probably -is- the most qualified person in the UK. And the BBC surely love to celebrate British achievements and put a British spin on things if they can. It's a very patriotic organisation.

Short answer: YES!

Andrea Antonopolous.

He shits on Amir and then eats him for breakfast in every facet.

He eats shit + people for breakfast?

Antonopolous is ok but I'm sick and tired of hearing his fan boys go on and on about him. There are other people in the bitcoin world who are quite articulate. Like gmaxwell.

ChuckBuck

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better everyday ♥

Quote from: xDan on February 07, 2014, 01:40:14 PM

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 07, 2014, 08:54:33 AM

Short answer: YES!

Andrea Antonopolous.

He shits on Amir and then eats him for breakfast in every facet.

Is he British? Doesn't sound it to my ears... but excuse my ignorance if he is. Being actually located in Britain and available for in-person short notice interviews is probably another bonus too.

I like Amir's outlook. It appeals to a demographic of everyday low income people who hate bankers and politicians. The sort who, as mentioned elsewhere, might sympathise with a Russell Brand type rant. This is a core of people who could be put off by too slick of a pitch-man, and might think Bitcoin is just another banker's toy.

I agree Andreas is freaking great though.

Not sure Andreas citizenship, he's pretty global, and travels the world quite a bit.

He did attend the UCL which is in London, and runs a business there.

The Joe Rogan podcast with Andreas is how you talk to the lowest common denominator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cexawnOlR8

Just the way he breaks down everything in layman terms, succinctly, and clearly is perfect.

Pretty much all his videos are awesome, and the best representation of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency:

http://antonopoulos.com/

techniquev3

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Just some new clothes and he is good to go Grin

xDan

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 07, 2014, 08:54:33 AM

Short answer: YES!

Andrea Antonopolous.

He shits on Amir and then eats him for breakfast in every facet.

Is he British? Doesn't sound it to my ears... but excuse my ignorance if he is. Being actually located in Britain and available for in-person short notice interviews is probably another bonus too.

I like Amir's outlook. It appeals to a demographic of everyday low income people who hate bankers and politicians. The sort who, as mentioned elsewhere, might sympathise with a Russell Brand type rant. This is a core of people who could be put off by too slick of a pitch-man, and might think Bitcoin is just another banker's toy.

I agree Andreas is freaking great though.

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Vires in Numeris

Quote from: johnyj on February 07, 2014, 11:09:21 AM

Amir's direction is all correct, and I think he should spend some more time studying existing economy system so that he can explain clearly why bitcoin is much more advanced

I'm not sure talking about the competitor is needed or wise. It just reminds people of what they do like about what they are familiar with.

To get people to think about change, you need to spend time talking about what they don't know, rather than wasting time talking of what they know well. Everyone has their perception of what they are familiar with. You are more likely to convince people about that which they do not know, than that which they do.

Talking about what Bitcoin offers and perhaps then simply noting that it's not controlled by any third party, is sufficient. People can then reflect on how their masters are doing them over and how existing power and wealth have an unfair advantage in perpetuating the difference. The state of the economy talks for itself. Talk then instead of flexibility and freedom, no need to exchange money at the boarder just take it with you etc etc; and if in a business or political forum, talk of colour coins and how much opportunity there is for innovation.

The dark heart of current economics, is exactly what would make him look uncomfortable; and anyone doing that, would easily get caught for lack of knowledge. Don't play their game on their turf and expect to win!

johnyj

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Beyond Imagination

Amir's direction is all correct, and I think he should spend some more time studying existing economy system so that he can explain clearly why bitcoin is much more advanced

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