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February 07, 2014, 08:54:33 AM
#73
Someone mentioned "isn't there anybody more qualified".

Short answer: NO!

This is the BBC remember, and this guy is British. He probably -is- the most qualified person in the UK. And the BBC surely love to celebrate British achievements and put a British spin on things if they can. It's a very patriotic organisation.

Short answer:  YES!

Andrea Antonopolous.

He shits on Amir and then eats him for breakfast in every facet.
legendary
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February 07, 2014, 08:41:03 AM
#72
It seems obvious why they interview him...they LIKE him. In the human sense, not as part of some nefarious plot to undermine Bitcoin.

You'll see it in the way the interviewer introduces him, addresses him, and closes out the interview.  Anyone who talks to media-trained suits day after day will be refreshed to talk to someone as sincere and accomplished as Amir, who is happy to rock up to the studio in a hoodie and talk street English.  I've met Amir a few times and he is eminently likeable, and it seems this debate is partly a division between those who know him and those who don't.  It's also a split between those who think rhetoric is needed to convince the world to use Bitcoin, and those who think a fully-functioning blockchain and ecosystem is what will convince the world to use Bitcoin.

...and those who think he is a criminal. (Bitcoinca / negligence / leaked source code / cluster fuck-up)

People don't forget if you are considerably responsible in losing them millions of dollars. This might actually be a reason for him to be on drugs.
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February 07, 2014, 07:58:28 AM
#71
Someone mentioned "isn't there anybody more qualified".

Short answer: NO!

This is the BBC remember, and this guy is British. He probably -is- the most qualified person in the UK. And the BBC surely love to celebrate British achievements and put a British spin on things if they can. It's a very patriotic organisation.
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February 07, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
#70
It seems obvious why they interview him...they LIKE him. In the human sense, not as part of some nefarious plot to undermine Bitcoin.

You'll see it in the way the interviewer introduces him, addresses him, and closes out the interview.  Anyone who talks to media-trained suits day after day will be refreshed to talk to someone as sincere and accomplished as Amir, who is happy to rock up to the studio in a hoodie and talk street English.  I've met Amir a few times and he is eminently likeable, and it seems this debate is partly a division between those who know him and those who don't.  It's also a split between those who think rhetoric is needed to convince the world to use Bitcoin, and those who think a fully-functioning blockchain and ecosystem is what will convince the world to use Bitcoin.
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February 07, 2014, 06:29:07 AM
#69
Forget about this car crash interview and Amir talking about five years olds in Iran setting up gambling sites, there is a greater meme..

Amir is passionate, a great guy and has allot to offer the bitcoin community. But this is simply a MSM set up. This is a typical British MSM tactic - "build them up then smash them down"

Amir's profile is tainted by the whole Intersango situation. This will be used against him in the future. The message will be, "look at that guy he is bitcoin and look at what he has done."  - Even if he is completely innocent, he needs to fix the Intersango situation before is goes on MSM and speaks to the likes of Huw Edwards.

We love you Amir but you are not the right person at this stage to speak to the MSM about Bitcoin.

We don't know what happened in the Intersango situation, while it's easy to say that he should've seen what was coming, and seen what happened, and been able to work against it and help the customers, sometimes people just get fucked over by other people and are left as scapegoats in the public eye.

This is not a defense of him - I'm just saying. I could've been part of a company, for example hired as a PR representative and genuinely believing in the company, and everything just runs smoothly for a couple of years, and then things starts to go sour, and then the CEO vanishes with a few millions and makes himself inaccessible, and I would be left with a shitstorm and people accusing me of the fact that I should've known about the shady dealings of this company. Now, a lot of people would've smelled the misdoings at a very early stage, and then either tried to change it or left the business altogether, but there are people who don't have these antennas, and that are easily fooled and can be used as scapegoats.

Still not a defense for Amir, just putting out the possibility as an argument against the accusations. And ofcourse his image is tarnished by that situation, as people lost a whole lot of money.
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February 07, 2014, 05:46:52 AM
#68
Forget about this car crash interview and Amir talking about five years olds in Iran setting up gambling sites, there is a greater meme..

Amir is passionate, a great guy and has allot to offer the bitcoin community. But this is simply a MSM set up. This is a typical British MSM tactic - "build them up then smash them down"

Amir's profile is tainted by the whole Intersango situation. This will be used against him in the future. The message will be, "look at that guy he is bitcoin and look at what he has done."  - Even if he is completely innocent, he needs to fix the Intersango situation before is goes on MSM and speaks to the likes of Huw Edwards.

We love you Amir but you are not the right person at this stage to speak to the MSM about Bitcoin.
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February 07, 2014, 05:42:04 AM
#67
As I said in the other thread on this topic

They interview him on purpose. Incoherent, unpresentable & controversial. Exactly what they know their audience won't relate too. They can count on him to make Bitcoin look bad without even trying.

Have you seen the interview?

Q. How can Bitcoin make the world a better place?
A. Because a 9 year old kid in Iran can download it and then start a gambling website.

Thanks Amir...

(I guess he would be OK talking at colleges/young adults that he could relate to more.)

This is the whole fucking point. Bitcoin doesn't care if you're a 9 year old kid in Iran running a gambling website. Bitcoin doesn't care if the BBC calls it satan's spawn. It will have no significant impact on bitcoin whatsoever, excepting maybe minor temporary unimportant and expected price fluctuations.

Lol. Like Today? Bitstamp 649 Dollars per BTC. Fuck.

One year ago, exactly 12 dollars per BTC.

$12 to $649 in one year? It looks like Amir is doing quite well, as he's been giving interviews non-stop on BBC and other mainstream media outlets since 2011.
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February 07, 2014, 04:31:43 AM
#66

Hey numbskull, someone needs fiat currency to obtain BTC. Did you even know that?



Except you don't need fiat to obtain BTC.

Did you know that?
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February 07, 2014, 04:22:05 AM
#65
The Blockchain fixes some of the inherent corrupt practices of our monetary system.

Its not about making things 'equal' as in resource distribution. But more as in 'equal access' to capital so that whoever wants to sell something and as long as there is someone to buy it, then you create a free market. A removal of the middle man will allow much more friction-less transactions. In that kind of a decentralized world, capital will find the best uses through open decentralized exchanges. Some people may value wars more, some removing poverty. The idea of how to allocate resources won't be decided by a few bankers, but by a more open decentralized, freer and a more democratic society.

Amir was alluding to these issues. And given the constraints, I think he did a pretty good job.

 Cheesy

LoL at "removal of the middle man".

Before Bitcoin:

Bank -> Exchange Market -> Bank

After Bitcoin:

Bank -> Exchange Market -> Blockchain -> Exchange Market -> Bank.

Howbout fuck your bank and I don't use fiat currency, period?

The catchphrase on Blockchain.info should be the rallying cry of bitcoin--"Be your own bank."

Hey numbskull, someone needs fiat currency to obtain BTC. Did you even know that?
legendary
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February 07, 2014, 04:14:55 AM
#64
As I said in the other thread on this topic

They interview him on purpose. Incoherent, unpresentable & controversial. Exactly what they know their audience won't relate too. They can count on him to make Bitcoin look bad without even trying.

Have you seen the interview?

Q. How can Bitcoin make the world a better place?
A. Because a 9 year old kid in Iran can download it and then start a gambling website.

Thanks Amir...

(I guess he would be OK talking at colleges/young adults that he could relate to more.)

This is the whole fucking point. Bitcoin doesn't care if you're a 9 year old kid in Iran running a gambling website. Bitcoin doesn't care if the BBC calls it satan's spawn. It will have no significant impact on bitcoin whatsoever, excepting maybe minor temporary unimportant and expected price fluctuations.

Lol. Like Today? Bitstamp 649 Dollars per BTC. Fuck.
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February 07, 2014, 04:06:55 AM
#63
As I said in the other thread on this topic

They interview him on purpose. Incoherent, unpresentable & controversial. Exactly what they know their audience won't relate too. They can count on him to make Bitcoin look bad without even trying.

Have you seen the interview?

Q. How can Bitcoin make the world a better place?
A. Because a 9 year old kid in Iran can download it and then start a gambling website.

Thanks Amir...

(I guess he would be OK talking at colleges/young adults that he could relate to more.)

This is the whole fucking point. Bitcoin doesn't care if you're a 9 year old kid in Iran running a gambling website. Bitcoin doesn't care if the BBC calls it satan's spawn. It will have no significant impact on bitcoin whatsoever, excepting maybe minor temporary unimportant and expected price fluctuations.
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February 07, 2014, 04:00:05 AM
#62
The Blockchain fixes some of the inherent corrupt practices of our monetary system.

Its not about making things 'equal' as in resource distribution. But more as in 'equal access' to capital so that whoever wants to sell something and as long as there is someone to buy it, then you create a free market. A removal of the middle man will allow much more friction-less transactions. In that kind of a decentralized world, capital will find the best uses through open decentralized exchanges. Some people may value wars more, some removing poverty. The idea of how to allocate resources won't be decided by a few bankers, but by a more open decentralized, freer and a more democratic society.

Amir was alluding to these issues. And given the constraints, I think he did a pretty good job.

 Cheesy

LoL at "removal of the middle man".

Before Bitcoin:

Bank -> Exchange Market -> Bank

After Bitcoin:

Bank -> Exchange Market -> Blockchain -> Exchange Market -> Bank.

Howbout fuck your bank and I don't use fiat currency, period?

The catchphrase on Blockchain.info should be the rallying cry of bitcoin--"Be your own bank."
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February 07, 2014, 03:59:01 AM
#61
Fuck all you assholes this was the best interview yet.

First things first--bitcoin doesn't need to put on a pretty face for anybody. It can't be stopped.

Secondly, all these banksters and regulators trying to get in on the game; you're all fucked, because the bankster types will think they're "cashing out" at some point but really they'll be buying worthless scraps of paper with the only real money they ever had; and the regulator types will find that no law they can put on the books will do a goddamn thing against bitcoin.

It would be an honor and a privilege to meet Amir and I hope I have the chance someday.

I am extremely skeptical of anybody talking about bitcoin and wearing a suit.

However, I'm not worried. Not even a little bit. Because no matter how hard you fuckwads try, you won't ever kill this movement. You're all fucked over already. The battle's just begun but you guys already lost.


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February 07, 2014, 12:52:30 AM
#60
Wow you guys are harsh. Not the most polished presentation but Bitcoin isn't just for bankers (or ex. bankers or people dressed like bankers).
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February 07, 2014, 12:41:22 AM
#59
who is this

amir?

i am Rusian  Roll Eyes

maybe this prezident in india? or guy in china?

i am think this guy very popular in amerika or europe?  Huh

Amir is on of the guys of the Bitcoinica / Interscamgo debacle leaking the Bitcoinica source code which ultimately led to another hack on the platform. People still try to get back tens of thousdands (!) of Bitcoins now kept hostage at MtGoxScam even though court-appointed liquidators have been claiming these funds for over a year now. It is being speculated that MtGox may have used these coins and the money to avoid insolvency up to today. (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=451225.0;topicseen Mt.Gox SCAM? $38million disappeared. Large sums affected.)

He should be the last person to have anything still to do with Bitcoin, let alone be a spokesman. I wish he was in jail.
vip
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February 07, 2014, 12:10:24 AM
#58
The Blockchain fixes some of the inherent corrupt practices of our monetary system.

Its not about making things 'equal' as in resource distribution. But more as in 'equal access' to capital so that whoever wants to sell something and as long as there is someone to buy it, then you create a free market. A removal of the middle man will allow much more friction-less transactions. In that kind of a decentralized world, capital will find the best uses through open decentralized exchanges. Some people may value wars more, some removing poverty. The idea of how to allocate resources won't be decided by a few bankers, but by a more open decentralized, freer and a more democratic society.

Amir was alluding to these issues. And given the constraints, I think he did a pretty good job.

 Cheesy

LoL at "removal of the middle man".

Before Bitcoin:

Bank -> Exchange Market -> Bank

After Bitcoin:

Bank -> Exchange Market -> Blockchain -> Exchange Market -> Bank.
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February 06, 2014, 09:34:40 PM
#57
He's too passionate for this, the last part about buying the whole planet sounded weird to an average person.
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February 06, 2014, 07:18:36 PM
#56
OD coming in 3, 2 ...

Basically, OD is coming there is no doubt about that.... 3, 2 , 1 ...
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February 06, 2014, 07:09:19 PM
#55
I think Amir would benefit from media training.

Not to change his message. Just to make his messages clearer to a wider range of people.

Answering questions directly, acknowledging and referencing aspects of the specific question, asking rhetorical questions - these things really help make the interview flow better.

For example he could have said "Do you think the US Dollar is free from large scale corruption?", and let the question hang there for a moment.

I think Amir has a raw talent, but his effectiveness in communicating a challenging message can be easily improved by practicing the skill of delivery. This can be taught.

What cannot be taught, however, is passion. He clearly has a passion for what he's saying and people can connect with that.
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February 06, 2014, 07:00:07 PM
#54
OP if you think this is bad, you'll shit yourself if you see his other interviews.  This was by FAR Amir's best interview to date.
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