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That is expected now that there are plenty of forum users that soon will have an open space for their siggy. However, as to payment, as long as it's reasonable it will be okay. I'd say I am an active gambler but in terms of quality posters qualification, I'd give that judgement to the campaign manager.

Yeah, let's start the race, I'm expecting that sooner or later there will be new casino campaigns that will pop up and as there's lots of supply (campaigner's) here. Supply and demand are going to be witness again, with this huge forum, I believe there are only few campaigners compared to the number of potential casinos that would like their brand to be popular.

Well there is no doubt that we are actually losing them because many of them aren't comfortable with gambling post and I have witnessed lot of posters going into another forum to build themselves to get ready for the launch of mixers over that forum, it is actually saddened to see that a day will come where the forum will entire ban mixer though it was actually for a betterment of the forum to remain safe.

The competition in quest may or may not be necessary because most of the casino or gambling to be launched might plan for long time campaign hence will not increase their pay rate to attract quality poster, gambling site aren't to be compared as mixers because they are highly competitive in order to remain the top paying campaign in the forum but guess what? There are other campaign that has refused to compete with mixers but yet they are still active and running while mixers in no time will have place here that's why isn't good to compete with upcoming projects because would know their time projections.

It is not a business competition between mixers and casinos, so to suggest closing up the space for mixers because they are leaving the forum makes no points. Whether they are here or not didn't stop any other signature campaign to advertise their business on the service board. Therefore, no relationship, connection or deprivation for any signature campaign with or without mixers.

However, you have made a valid point whether they would survive elsewhere and that is a strong point. This forum is the most active and popular crypto forum because of the use of bitcoin. So if they want to succeed elsewhere, they should introduce btc payment system for the signature campaign and not usdt or other stable coins.

Another point that they need to survive is to put value on payrate for the participants whether in btc or other coins. If they increase payrate, that would encourage good work on their publicity.

That's very correct mate, I think the manager also makes it clear on the application of their gambling signature campaign "if you are not a regular poster in the gambling board please don't apply" so I don't think because mixers are gone they will now be a wave of reshuffling in casino campaign to hire the so called reputable posters who tend to avoid promoting casino campaigns.

The casino campaign have been doing well even with the mixers around and now that's they are gone I don't anything would be different as the people promoting the services now are still the ones promoting even with the mixers around.

If the current gambling casinos here on the forum should ditch their current promoters to hire users who they think are quality posters, what then happen to their rules which state that participants must be active in the gambling board?
Maybe some other casinos don't explicitly include this rule in the signature campaign ann thread, but I know that Stake has this rule making it mandatory that every user wanting to apply to join their campaign must have been an active poster in the gambling board, and like we all know, the so called quality posters aren't active on this board, and neither are they even gamblers.

I personally do not think this is a suggestion that will work, except some managers are going to bend the rules of their campaign.

Explain to me what is the point of raising payments for the remaining campaigns in conditions when the number of signature campaigns is sharply decreasing and this leads to increasing competition among those who want to participate in signature campaigns? If we think from the point of view of how the market works, then the average payment should fall rather than rise.

But regarding the situation that happened, I had other ideas: mixers (and those who stand behind them) are interested in making their business work. It is quite possible that new casinos/bookmakers with the most favorable odds will soon appear, the purpose of which will only be to accept your clean crypto, mix it within themselves and issue it already mixed. To get their market share, these new “gambling” projects will conduct advertising campaigns and they will probably pay a lot - at the level of the outgoing mixers. I don’t know how all this will end - maybe they will be banned over time, since again some state official will declare them a criminal business and the forum will ban their advertising. Or, by analogy with mixers, all casinos (which can also be used for laundering) will be banned. It will be interesting to see all this.

As for Satoshi and his legacy, I would not overestimate his importance - yes, he is a historical figure and this is a historical forum, but those who are interested in communication (especially free communication) can easily communicate on forums where this historical heritage does not exist, since the purpose of communication is the exchange of relevant information rather than “reverence” for history.

I bet it's not just casino platforms that will come knocking in this forum for support and advertisements. Maybe new projects that have something to do with cryptocurrencies will come out. Some of them are in the bounty section but maybe it's time to step up their method of getting more support. The forum is wide and many members are lurking everywhere, not just the altcoins.
Perhaps, they could try to target the gamblers too if they want investors and prioritize gambling posts so that it could be seen here.
Something else will come up, I can feel it. It's not a casino or a sports bookie but another project that will run for years here in our lovely forum. I just don't know it yet. Well, Bitcoin was not known before but here we are. Gambling sites are also not that big before, but here they are. I am optimistic that this forum has always been the best platform to be advertised widely especially if it's about cryptocurrencies.

Casino campaign participants are required to post a specific number in the gambling section to qualify for payment and you must have a good knowledge of gambling and sports betting because you are promoting a gambling platform and you are targetting casino players, and many of the posters here are players of casinos or they have an account on casinos so they know the in and out of casinos.
As long as the forum allows the promotion of casinos here I don't think there is a need to transfer to another forum, and casinos are a big industry that is compliant to the government compared to mixers.

A psychological scientific fact by who and from whom exactly?  As far as I know, there's a huge difference between employing the right person for the wrong job  and employing the wrong person for the right job and also employing the right person for the right job.
Giving the job of a gambling advertising service to a non-gambler, specially someone that is disinterested in gambling activities the way they will engage and discuss in gambling discussions such as sports and other casino games the in-depth analysis in the conversation can't be compared to someone that has a great interest in gambling. However, I leave that to campaign managers to decide for themselves.

I don't understand. How is this relevant to the gambling board, and where is the correlation between mixers and casinos? I don't see a space to "fill" like you mentioned; if you're talking about signature campaigns, then that's a different story. The forum was never limited to mixer promotion; if there are not available campaigns now, I'm sure that a new service will eventually come up to enroll said users. Even if some services migrate to other forums, they'll soon realize that the competitive forums receive nowhere near the traffic we're receiving, which is the main reason why some services that are being advertised are paying peanuts compared to their budget on Bitcointalk.

There is no need to race. There is no need to compete who has biggest payment, or which campaign has best posters. We are here on the forum not to post for reward after all. After mixers leave this forum, the niche will not remain empty. Those who were in mixers signature campaigns will find other service to promote, and definitely they wont leave forum and continue posting.

Casinos feel themselves here very well. We still have more casinos presented here, than the amount of casinos who run signature campaign promotion. Even without promotion, they continue to get attraction of gamblers. And it is not that casinos should hire active members, but current signature participants should improve posting quality, and managers should become more strict.

I think it is not necessary because casinos still operate in their own way. The loss of a part of an already existing field can cause debate, but it has also been clearly stated about it. The decisions of the forum moderators and we members should respect them. And the collaboration, as the OP mentioned I think it is also an idea but it will be more straightforward that it will not be accepted, and as I expressed before, the casinos that appeared before also do not need additional that service or if they want, they must also be bound by the regulations.

And now by the time mixers are banned from the forum I think they've had enough time to come up with solutions that can continue to work for those who seek them out, and we also No need to think too much about it.

Ops there is nothing to worry about and for that member who is currently enrolled in the mixer signature campaign or even the mixers as companies,  there will always be a way around it and for sure it may have temporary effects on businesses but since individuals can still use mixers as a service I believe the companies will fine there way around how to promote their services and where acceptable,  most times I don't want to mix up discussion about mixer and casino because both a different service within the same cryptocurrency ecosystem and for sure none need to compete with each since both can co-exist,  so if you feel there be any need for casinos to upts their games to meet up with a demand that mixer exists from the forum cause is totally out of proportion for me,  let just focus on the best and most effective ways to discover good services that will enhance our privacy with any security issues and look forward for the best in the coming days and months ahead.

I am sure not only casino hires or make promotions here in the forum,  aside from mixer,  we have exchanges carrying out their promotions here in the forum and even also other cryptocurrency-related projects,  so there is no need for any casino both new and old being under pressure to perform in any particular ways.

I think our mixer problem is clear that it will be banned in January and we also know there is a reason why it is banned, it has even been explained by this forum mod @theymos, of course it must be differentiated from casinos because the best posters between mixers and casinos are definitely different too, mostly Casino posters post only around gambling, never outside of it, unlike mixer campaigns, they are free to post anywhere.

Talking about marketing strategies, of course casinos have their own marketing team so they know what they have to do and don't need you to give them advice, although we have seen recently that new casinos have arrived on this forum to hold campaigns, of course they have their own rules for getting posters. their best in their own way. any competition, any race, depends on the budget and usually casinos with a limited budget prefer to choose the best poster in their own way.gv 

       -   Most people here on the forum already know that mixer campaigns only run until December 31st and that January 1st, 2024, will be banned in the forum platform here. And it is also possible that the owners of the mixer campaigns will shift to the casino business here in the crypto space. But this is just my assessment; I'm not sure yet; it may or may not happen.

I did read something in the campaign held by @julerz12 that I'm not sure if the coinomize campaign owner intends to continue their project on another platform, and I think I read it in their bounty section on the altcointalk forum that they want to continue.

No. If gambling sites come to this forum, it is just as usual as it was before. Casinos or other gambling sites are not the same or similar to mixers, they are also still gambling sites. If the sites are not gambling site and see this forum signature campaign to be profitable for them, that is different and that is when what your said is valid.

There will be no void to fill unless the money launderers decide to use KYCed casino for their laundering service just because mixers are banned from the forum and I don't see the relation as well between casino and mixer. But about the competition for the spot, it will be right on that may be a good thing which doesn't mean new casinos will emerge just to recruit the quality posters of bitcointalk.

Why it sounds like people who did that are wrong?

Yeah they can start become a gambler, they can start to learn about gambling and it's completely fine. You're agree to promote the project, so you should try to learn about the project you're promoting. Of course the casino or manager can ask them to reduce nor delete the minimum requirement in gambling boards, but that's their choice right?

The last sentence, you're definitely correct.

I was thinking I'm gonna see any strategy that will enable me fill my pocket this festive season but ended up seeing the counsel of a prophet 

We wait for January to see the shape of things in the forum following the exit of mixers. I don't expect launching of many new casinos because the industry already have good ones and the competition is mainly based on quality delivery.

They'll learn to post here and I'm sure they'll quickly adjust because most of them are really good at posting so no problem there. Casino campaigns will be something that we have to look out for or maybe even have the existing campaigns beef up their funds to accommodate other users or do what Bitvest does, having tiers so they can recruit more at a lower pay. Hopefully we get to see more casinos doing signature campaigns but that's not for me to decide to happen, if they don't see doing a campaign helping them then so be it.