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Instead of confirming either Rollbit gives the @OP' money or the @OP accusation was wrong, the @OP decided to delete the title and the post without giving any words. So what does this mean? is @OP scared to get caught because he gamble in illegal site.
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Did you really know gambling sites that accept Italians "legally" and are not registered in AAMS portal hence they are not authorized in Italy? 🤨
Ok. I confirm this is not true. Can you provide proofs of what you are saying?
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Did you really know gambling sites that accept Italians "legally" and are not registered in AAMS portal hence they are not authorized in Italy? 🤨
Ok. I confirm this is not true. Can you provide proofs of what you are saying?
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... There are lots of casinos without such restrictions with high quality gambling.
This is not true! Don't give fake claims/suggestions...
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ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
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ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
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I would pay "attention if a site accept" Italians players (with KYC) since here in Italy they are completely illegally.
https://www.adm.gov.it/portale/en/monopoli/giochi/gioco_distanza/gioco_dist_concessionari
above, full list of gambling site authorized in Italy.
It was what i`m talking about and you tell the same.
https://www.blenheim.nl/en/blog/online-casinos-must-repay-gamblers-what-does-this-mean-for-the-gambling-industry/
Advice from a lawyer if you have lost money on an illegal online gambling website
Advice from a lawyer if you have lost money on an illegal online gambling website
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
You know he problem that most of us gave, we will know that something is not right but yet we will also want to give a try to see what might be the consequences of doing the wrong thing, he was banned, yet you're asking if another person from the same region could register and not get banned, of being a citizen of italy is what caused the ban, then don't try yours, if it was other reasons, try to Know which in other not to fall on the same reason and get penalized too.
From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played
You mean the casino was supposed to ban or restrict ip(s) accessing the forum from italy?, if this is what you actually meant, then I did say that you are right to some extent, but also have it in mind that for such restrictions, non Italian users may sometimes get affected due to a bug or some other reasons.So, for me, it's always better to simply state the number of jurisdictions or countries that the casino are not providing service to, its up to the players accessing the casino to avoid such casino after reading their terms of service and realizing that the his or her country is not supported.
So to this effect, I did advice op to stay away from Rollbit as from now on, to avoid getting banned just the same way his friend was banned.
From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played
I do not agree that the fault lies entirely on the site. The player can circumvent geolocation through the use of VPN or TOR. It is also stated on their TOS that they do not allow player from the restricted country. If the player only have read the ToS and if they are the one among those people who live in the restricted country then they should voluntarily give up the idea of registering to the site.
We all know that most of the online casino skip reading the ToS and just click the confirmation that they had read and agree with the Terms of the casino. So how can it be entirely the casinos fault when they already stated on their terms the restricted country and still these people from these banned country still register and play on the site?
Just like the rest been saying is that people would really be just that mindful on reading up those terms on the time that they would be experiencing those problems and they would really be just telling to themselves that they are really that wrong but we know that there would really be those type of person who would really be trying out to make some arguments that they were never commit out such thing or didnt have that violation
which is really that absurd. This one would really be opening up their minds and make out some realization that reading up sites ToS would really be always relevant and would really be that important.
From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played
I do not agree that the fault lies entirely on the site. The player can circumvent geolocation through the use of VPN or TOR. It is also stated on their TOS that they do not allow player from the restricted country. If the player only have read the ToS and if they are the one among those people who live in the restricted country then they should voluntarily give up the idea of registering to the site.
We all know that most of the online casino skip reading the ToS and just click the confirmation that they had read and agree with the Terms of the casino. So how can it be entirely the casinos fault when they already stated on their terms the restricted country and still these people from these banned country still register and play on the site?
From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played
Are you sure about that?
Think of a situation where you have a guard dog and a gate with a warning sign "do not enter, guard dog inside." and someone opens the gate and walks in. Who is responsible for the bite, you, the dog, or the person who walked in despite the warning? It's impossible for any site to do KYC and check the account on the same day that it's registered.
I'm against casinos holding player's money and I think the fair way to settle this would be to return whatever is left from player's deposit and keep the rest. This way the casino is fair towards authorities because the gambler did not profit and the gambler gets to keep the deposit.
Everyone hates reading terms of services and I know why, looking at a page full of worlds just feel tired to me before I start reading, I know how it feels but on the other part, reading through it will reveal some secrets to you, maybe you are already about to do something wrong, but you don't know it.
I will advice everyone to take their time with Terms of Services first, to avoid stories that touch later, there are so many stories about casinos scamming them on here and when you read through it you will see that they don't read the Terms of Services first.
You don't have to read it all at once, and you don't have to rush into a casino all because you quickly want to start gambling, give it time, do some reading and come back the next day if you feel it's too much to read, this will save you from possible mistakes that you can only identify as mistake if you read through the Terms of Services.
I will advice everyone to take their time with Terms of Services first, to avoid stories that touch later, there are so many stories about casinos scamming them on here and when you read through it you will see that they don't read the Terms of Services first.
You don't have to read it all at once, and you don't have to rush into a casino all because you quickly want to start gambling, give it time, do some reading and come back the next day if you feel it's too much to read, this will save you from possible mistakes that you can only identify as mistake if you read through the Terms of Services.
Maybe my suggestions and solutions are not to be imitated but I only provide solutions to deal with problems experienced in being able to withdraw funds, I mean he transferred the account to another person to verify KYC and also for video call verification if needed, but I hope they are given permission to withdraw the initial deposit without needing to verify the account. However, everyone should pay attention to the terms and conditions even if you don't like reading a bunch of boring sentences but the fact is that all the rules depend on those sentences, users need to skim through the TOS to make sure there are no rules prohibiting their country from gambling at that casino.
This is really not a solution because of the IP difference when he create the account and play to the new IP which he will use to fake the KYC. Besides OP is still not caught yet which means he still have a time to withdraw his fund without doing KYC.
Faking KYC while you live on a restricted country will just make your funds forever frozen since you try to cheat instead of admitting your from restricted country since casino needs to refund the deposit no matter what happened due to legality of the issue.
Is very bad to use a site where you don't know what the terms of operations are and what possible reality awaits you in the future, such as in ops situations.
Sure that's what you've believe it to be but to me as a consumer, it shouldn't be my responsibility to sift through all the deeper words and technical mumbo jumbo because the more I spend understanding the words that I don't understand and even know the meaning it will end up with me having to less time gambling plus they probably should've just highlighted the spots that we need to know, the casinos should know by now that anyone's going to complay to all these stupid demands anyway since the players don't get to play there if they don't accept the terms and conditions, if that's not the case I'm sure a lot of people have been disagreeing with these terms and conditions.
There is no way you sign up on a site and disagree with the terms and conditions even after you read it and it does not sit well with you, you can only disagree if you don't want to use the site, but as long as you want to use that, you must agree to their terms and conditions or you just get out 
. I this exactly what part of centralization is all about, and entity wilding all the power, while the user either agree to their bid or look else where.And speaking of casinos making the part of their terms and conditions which users really have to know available to them, what I did tell you is, you should not allow your laziness to read deceive you into believing that there is a special part of terms and conditions that should be known while the other parts shouldnt
, every part of a casino's terms and conditions is very important to know as a user, but then, most users just find the entire document so uninteresting to read including myself . 
Maybe my suggestions and solutions are not to be imitated but I only provide solutions to deal with problems experienced in being able to withdraw funds, I mean he transferred the account to another person to verify KYC and also for video call verification if needed, but I hope they are given permission to withdraw the initial deposit without needing to verify the account. However, everyone should pay attention to the terms and conditions even if you don't like reading a bunch of boring sentences but the fact is that all the rules depend on those sentences, users need to skim through the TOS to make sure there are no rules prohibiting their country from gambling at that casino.
This is really not a solution because of the IP difference when he create the account and play to the new IP which he will use to fake the KYC. Besides OP is still not caught yet which means he still have a time to withdraw his fund without doing KYC.
Faking KYC while you live on a restricted country will just make your funds forever frozen since you try to cheat instead of admitting your from restricted country since casino needs to refund the deposit no matter what happened due to legality of the issue.
but I'm thinking of another solution option, if he hasn't applied for KYC but he uses other people's data from a legal gambling country, will the KYC be accepted?
I wouldn't recommend doing this. Not only because it is cheating but because it will do nothing but complicating things and making it harder to reach a friendly resolution for the problem.
Casinos already know about these cheating techniques and it will be hard to fool them. In OP's friend case, Rollbit asked him to verify his identity because they most likely know he is from a restricted country. If he submits fake documents, they will definitely ask for a extended verification such as a video call.
Better be honest and if you are lucky enough, they might let you withdraw your initial deposit.
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
It's going to hurt sooner or later if you're going to ignore reading the terms of service, honestly, I also find reading terms of service boring, reading these terms hurts the eyes because of too many words and some casinos put a lot of words that are confusing and repetitive, but you have no choice but to understand and read the terms because if there's any issue on your account, the terms are your best defense, and this will save you from all the troubles, be sure that before you start playing you fully understand the terms or better defer playing until you fully understand everything.
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The good news is that he might be able get a refund for all his deposits, because he was not allowed to used their services in the first place and therefore they are not allowed to keep his money. They have to give all deposits back. Again, this is from a non-lawyer perspective of my own countries laws.
Probably no refund if the friend was able to withdraw money prior to his KYC submission and the amount already covers all previous deposits. The player was already in profit at that point.The good news is that he might be able get a refund for all his deposits, because he was not allowed to used their services in the first place and therefore they are not allowed to keep his money. They have to give all deposits back. Again, this is from a non-lawyer perspective of my own countries laws.
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To be honest, I can't understand the ToS of these casinos. They block the most wealthiest countries but at the same time run promotions that are aimed to attract people from these wealthy nations, doesn't really make sense
It does look odd but I'm not surprised anymore. Curacao have approved the licenses of many casinos advertised here but the Government prohibits these gambling platforms from accepting players from their country. To be honest, I can't understand the ToS of these casinos. They block the most wealthiest countries but at the same time run promotions that are aimed to attract people from these wealthy nations, doesn't really make sense
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If only the casinos didn't make it so boring to read then a lot of people would probably know about the terms and condition but so far the trend of making the terms and condition look so boring to read is still the same as back in 2010s so I don't know if we're really the one to blame for all of this, terms and conditions are where business put in the malicious stuff that not a lot of people would agree to be a part of because they know that if they put it there, there's less likely people that will read it and technically they're in the right when it comes to the complaints. If you want to know the feeling of hating to read the terms and conditions or maybe even skipping it and just agreeing with it, try reading the Bible or the Dictionary and you'll probably understand what's the feeling.
However boring it may seem, it's still your responsibility to read and understand the terms of service, it's your responsibility to yourself to see to it that your account and money are safe you don't want to blame yourself later if you win a big amount of money and you cannot withdraw it because you overlooked something in the casino's terms of service.
Reading and understanding the terms of service is very important it's your guide and your defense in case, you encounter issues on your account.
. I this exactly what part of centralization is all about, and entity wilding all the power, while the user either agree to their bid or look else where.And speaking of casinos making the part of their terms and conditions which users really have to know available to them, what I did tell you is, you should not allow your laziness to read deceive you into believing that there is a special part of terms and conditions that should be known while the other parts shouldnt
, every part of a casino's terms and conditions is very important to know as a user, but then, most users just find the entire document so uninteresting to read including myself . If only the casinos didn't make it so boring to read then a lot of people would probably know about the terms and condition but so far the trend of making the terms and condition look so boring to read is still the same as back in 2010s so I don't know if we're really the one to blame for all of this, terms and conditions are where business put in the malicious stuff that not a lot of people would agree to be a part of because they know that if they put it there, there's less likely people that will read it and technically they're in the right when it comes to the complaints. If you want to know the feeling of hating to read the terms and conditions or maybe even skipping it and just agreeing with it, try reading the Bible or the Dictionary and you'll probably understand what's the feeling.
However boring it may seem, it's still your responsibility to read and understand the terms of service, it's your responsibility to yourself to see to it that your account and money are safe you don't want to blame yourself later if you win a big amount of money and you cannot withdraw it because you overlooked something in the casino's terms of service.
Reading and understanding the terms of service is very important it's your guide and your defense in case, you encounter issues on your account.
If you dont really care about your money(which is impossible) then reading up a few minutes with those pile of text wont really be giving any harm but rather it would be giving out that
awareness because reading up terms would really be always that beneficial on which this is a solid example on why it is really that important that you should really be giving out that kind of
priority on reading up those TOS because if you dont then you would really be ending up such as this situation which do really sucks specially if your funds had been locked up and been
having no clear chance whether it would be released or would really be that revoked.
awareness because reading up terms would really be always that beneficial on which this is a solid example on why it is really that important that you should really be giving out that kind of
priority on reading up those TOS because if you dont then you would really be ending up such as this situation which do really sucks specially if your funds had been locked up and been
having no clear chance whether it would be released or would really be that revoked.
Most of the casino usually doesn’t let you register when you are from restricted country. You will be automatically logout when you use an IP from restricted country as my experience when using VPN to change my IP.
I’m not sure if this is common feature but most of the trusted casino I’m using usually doesn’t let me enter when using restricted country IP. But you have a point that reading the ToS won’t hurt especially that there’s a “find in page” feature on browser to check the ToS quickly for the list of country not allowed to play.
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