You should have turned the tables on him and told him you know someone looking for a hitman.
Then when he says he can do that, call the cops for conspiracy to murder.
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I do wish the OP had called the police on the "buyer" just for laughs. Ask to file a report, fake being all concerned etc. Get the feds involved to investigate for added yucks. 
I wouldn't ever do that.
I am not my brothers keeper.
Even *if* he was not LE, and actually *was* trying to sell me drugs...I still wouldn't tell on him.
My hatred for the tyranny of our draconian legal system trumps all.
Remember, the first offer was for contracted crimes of violence.
Even *if* he was not LE, and actually *was* trying to sell me drugs...I still wouldn't tell on him.
The fun in it was reporting the LE on itself.
I do wish the OP had called the police on the "buyer" just for laughs. Ask to file a report, fake being all concerned etc. Get the feds involved to investigate for added yucks.
I totally agree and this is exactly what I would do in that situation. However, it may be more trouble than it's worth. Creating enemies in law enforcement is never a good idea.
There is a lot of paranoia in this thread. It isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. Face-to-face transactions are safe and easy. Online selling is risky because of chargebacks and fraud. Even cash bank deposits can be reversed.
Just stick to small amounts and stay away from people talking about criminal activity, and you have nothing to worry about.
Just stick to small amounts and stay away from people talking about criminal activity, and you have nothing to worry about.
I couldn't agree more, I'd treat the service like Craigslist. Come to think of it I've heard of many more horror stories of Craigslist meetups gone bad then I have of Bitcoin exchanges going wrong. It seems more common for the cops to be the reason for worry when exchanging coin in person then criminals..
The way that OP handled the situation is prefect.
Once the talk about illegal stuff came up, end the transaction and walk away.
OP is correct about money laundering and law enforcement.
Once the talk about illegal stuff came up, end the transaction and walk away.
OP is correct about money laundering and law enforcement.
If he limit his transaction to 500-1000 per sale. The law enforcement may not even bother him.
Another valid point. This amount will probably vary by state as each has their own money laws (or soon to be laws)
Just a matter of time before LE ends up trying to entrap us, we attempt to make a citizen's arrest, the undercover and/or their backup team executes us in "self-defense", and it's ruled "justified" by a complicit justice system.
Or better/worse yet, a law-abiding LEO ends up arresting the entrapping LEO from another agency, or gets shot trying.
Or better/worse yet, a law-abiding LEO ends up arresting the entrapping LEO from another agency, or gets shot trying.
The way that OP handled the situation is prefect.
Once the talk about illegal stuff came up, end the transaction and walk away.
OP is correct about money laundering and law enforcement.
Once the talk about illegal stuff came up, end the transaction and walk away.
OP is correct about money laundering and law enforcement.
If he limit his transaction to 500-1000 per sale. The law enforcement may not even bother him.
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They are creating crime in order to prosecute it.
This is pretty standard these days.
This is called entrapment and used to be illegal in the old day.
Yes, but there are so many "men in black" now that there is not nearly enough real crime to keep them busy. To finance this apparatus, victimless crime and even crimeless crime is prosecuted. If that is not enough, cases are literally engineered by them. Many innocent people are put in jail just to keep their statistics in shape. Probably the same in other parts of the world. It is revolting.
www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots
http://rt.com/usa/fbi-usa-terrorism-portland/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fbi-has-a-success-rate-of-50-when-it-comes-to-stopping-domestic-terrorism-714589
There is a lot of paranoia in this thread. It isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. Face-to-face transactions are safe and easy. Online selling is risky because of chargebacks and fraud. Even cash bank deposits can be reversed.
Just stick to small amounts and stay away from people talking about criminal activity, and you have nothing to worry about.
Just stick to small amounts and stay away from people talking about criminal activity, and you have nothing to worry about.
This.
Just keep to small amounts and be professional and do everything as smooth and quickly as possible. Check out your buyer before meeting them (past feedback etc), check all the notes you receive, do the trades in a safe place, use the escrow service and if the buyer mentions anything illegal DO NOT trade with them ever again. Keep it strictly business. So long as you're not trading excessively large amounts you will be very safe doing this.
Thanks for the post, I had something very similar happen. He had addresses on a piece of paper, not even QR codes and admitted they were not his. I felt uncomfortable about the whole thing and declined to sell the coins.
Once he admits it's not for him and on behalf of a 3rd party, you would be operating as a money transmitter without a license. They charged Charlie Shrem of Bitinstant for that crime.
There is a lot of paranoia in this thread. It isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. Face-to-face transactions are safe and easy. Online selling is risky because of chargebacks and fraud. Even cash bank deposits can be reversed.
Just stick to small amounts and stay away from people talking about criminal activity, and you have nothing to worry about.
Just stick to small amounts and stay away from people talking about criminal activity, and you have nothing to worry about.
I wonder if you were being audio recorded while this deal was going down. I bet so.
Recorded audio of you selling btc to a person knowingly using it for illegal purposes would be the only way to have the evidence needed, right? (aside from any texts/emails showing known intent of the buyer)
Recorded audio of you selling btc to a person knowingly using it for illegal purposes would be the only way to have the evidence needed, right? (aside from any texts/emails showing known intent of the buyer)
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