A node uses hardly any system resources, it is dirt cheap to run, if you have a machine running already anyway having a node on it is hardly any impact at all.
Sure people who blew extra money to run extra machines specifically to run a node will probably shut the extra machines down but they were never really people that a network would want anyway, they are the slash and burn miner types, that run around destroying coin after coin, it maybe would have been better to make the distribution payouts low enough that no one would want to fire up a rented node specifically to run it, set the payouts to where only people who already have machines up and running doing other things but with spare capacity would bother to add a node to one or more of their already-running machines.
-MarkM-
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1)I have 141 node running up right now. After distribution will end i promise to support the network by min. 13 nodes to maximum of 41 (i dont know how many exactly i can stay but something between 13-41 for sure) for free (community support in HZ welcome 
)
2) I think no big dump will occur after distribution over, becouse no more bounty nodes to dump. We expierience dumping everyday by node owners so i think it will change in good way.
3) We are all waiting for 5.0 wallet and secret big changes from dev team
)2) I think no big dump will occur after distribution over, becouse no more bounty nodes to dump. We expierience dumping everyday by node owners so i think it will change in good way.
3) We are all waiting for 5.0 wallet and secret big changes from dev team
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its.
Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.
Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.
Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?
Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?
It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?
P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.
P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?
P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess
Sorry.Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter by your signature, The unique reason to low price
of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM.
By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe.
I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ.
Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)?
The first benefits is than Hz have prices more low than Nxt, The distribution of Hz was better than Nxt did it,
About roadmap is it https://horizonplatform.io/about/development-roadmap/, Maybe the devs of Horizon will give you an explanation more clear.
HZ could be more valuable than NEM because Hz have less supply than NEM does but it need new exchanges the devs are working on it, About benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.), I could say that alls are really good projects.
Seems roadmap is a little bit old from your link
OK, let's wait what devs have to say This is acount NHZ-2B4Y-6JVX-VMB7-G8WSS dumping everytime, when balance reaches 1M or above. Seems he is running 139 nodes. Do you think he will stay in community and contribute something to HZ after distribution ends? I don't think so
139 nodes from 805 nodes is 17% of nodes running. Imagine what dump will be after distribution ends
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its.
Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.
Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.
Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?
Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?
It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?
P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.
P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?
P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess
Sorry.Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter by your signature, The unique reason to low price
of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM.
By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe.
I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ.
Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)?
The first benefits is than Hz have prices more low than Nxt, The distribution of Hz was better than Nxt did it,
About roadmap is it https://horizonplatform.io/about/development-roadmap/, Maybe the devs of Horizon will give you an explanation more clear.
HZ could be more valuable than NEM because Hz have less supply than NEM does but it need new exchanges the devs are working on it, About benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.), I could say that alls are really good projects.
Seems roadmap is a little bit old from your link
OK, let's wait what devs have to say 
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its.
Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.
Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.
Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?
Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?
It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?
P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.
P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?
P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess
Sorry.Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter by your signature, The unique reason to low price
of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM.
By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe.
I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ.
Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)?
The first benefits is than Hz have prices more low than Nxt, The distribution of Hz was better than Nxt did it,
About roadmap is it https://horizonplatform.io/about/development-roadmap/, Maybe the devs of Horizon will give you an explanation more clear.
HZ could be more valuable than NEM because Hz have less supply than NEM does but it need new exchanges the devs are working on it, About benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.), I could say that alls are really good projects.
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its.
Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.
Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.
Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?
Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?
It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?
P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.
P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?
P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess
Sorry.Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter by your signature, The unique reason to low price
of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM.
By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe.
I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ.
Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)?
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its.
Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.
Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.
Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?
Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?
It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?
P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.
P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?
P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess
Sorry.Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter by your signature, The unique reason to low price
of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM.
By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe.
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its.
Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.
Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.
Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?
Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?
It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?
P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.
P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?
P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess
Sorry. Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that new wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its.
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.
Some thoughts before the sleep
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.
What I want to say:
1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.
Curious, what devs and community think about it?
I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.
Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?
EDIT: some typoes edited
What is about today 10/06 bounty payment? I didn't receive any, just interest.
Code:
NODE IP ADDRESS: 78.63.207.76 (ONLINE)
Last Checked: 2015-10-06 19:13:19 | Last Payout: 2015-10-06 00:20:08
Total Uptime: 153618 mins | Upime Until Next Payout: -978 mins
Show hallmark
Confirmed, no bounty for your node today.
Besides, totally 805 other nodes got paid
What expectations are about how many nodes will be alive after distribution ends?
I remember times with more than 3000 nodes, today there were 805. It is no longer worthwhile.
I think when the vps contracts expire, there will be hardly any node.
And big dump in the last distribution days
What expectations are about how many nodes will be alive after distribution ends?
I remember times with more than 3000 nodes, today there were 805. It is no longer worthwhile.
I think when the vps contracts expire, there will be hardly any node.
What is about today 10/06 bounty payment? I didn't receive any, just interest.
Code:
NODE IP ADDRESS: 78.63.207.76 (ONLINE)
Last Checked: 2015-10-06 19:13:19 | Last Payout: 2015-10-06 00:20:08
Total Uptime: 153618 mins | Upime Until Next Payout: -978 mins
Show hallmark
The node bounty script pays out to the account encoded in the hallmark. When your IP address changes, your node will stop working.
After an IP address change the node must be newly detected by the network. This can take several hours.
From this point, the online time is counted.
You must change the hallmark according to the new IP to get node bounties.
Thanks to everyone for the explanation. Would be great to have this in the form of an FAQ for future users.
That will no longer be worth. The distribution is almost over.
What expectations are about how many nodes will be alive after distribution ends?
The node bounty script pays out to the account encoded in the hallmark. When your IP address changes, your node will stop working.
After an IP address change the node must be newly detected by the network. This can take several hours.
From this point, the online time is counted.
You must change the hallmark according to the new IP to get node bounties.
Thanks to everyone for the explanation. Would be great to have this in the form of an FAQ for future users.
That will no longer be worth. The distribution is almost over.
The node bounty script pays out to the account encoded in the hallmark. When your IP address changes, your node will stop working.
After an IP address change the node must be newly detected by the network. This can take several hours.
From this point, the online time is counted.
You must change the hallmark according to the new IP to get node bounties.
Thanks to everyone for the explanation. Would be great to have this in the form of an FAQ for future users.
The node bounty script pays out to the account encoded in the hallmark. When your IP address changes, your node will stop working.
After an IP address change the node must be newly detected by the network. This can take several hours.
From this point, the online time is counted.
You must change the hallmark according to the new IP to get node bounties.
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