Let me translate for you: "soft landing"=="post growth"
soft landing=post growth=controlled deflation=the best that can be hoped for=NOT----->uncontrolled deflation=volatility
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The Federal Reserve has been easing this entire time through various means. The end game they will avoid at all costs is deflation. This is the real threat (inflation is a after-effect of combating deflation so you can have both). We are in a debt-based system so without growth it eventually consumes itself because you can't cover even small amounts of interest payments over time.
Large defaults of debt is the signal you need to look for if you want to know what will signal any meaningful recovery. If you don't see those then we are ever-inflating with fresh debt to paper over and roll the old debt. This has historical evidence since the dawn of recorded history. Different times but the basics are still the same.
Large defaults of debt is the signal you need to look for if you want to know what will signal any meaningful recovery. If you don't see those then we are ever-inflating with fresh debt to paper over and roll the old debt. This has historical evidence since the dawn of recorded history. Different times but the basics are still the same.
It's still probably true somewhat, but less and less : Now they all are pressured.
Do you think the Fed wants to wait for after the election at all costs ? Do you think ECB buying short term bonds will be enough ?
PS : should read more about BIS, I don't know enough about it.
Do you think the Fed wants to wait for after the election at all costs ? Do you think ECB buying short term bonds will be enough ?
PS : should read more about BIS, I don't know enough about it.
Another solution is the IMF. After all, they also have a full functioning printing press 
They even bought some gold a few month ago, to me that's a sign they'll act at some point.
But if you listen to Jim Rickards (who is both smart and well connected imo), they'll announce some sort of GDP targeting measures. No big numbers, just a crazy big commitment to do whatever it takes to "save" the economy.
We should know soon enough.
They even bought some gold a few month ago, to me that's a sign they'll act at some point.But if you listen to Jim Rickards (who is both smart and well connected imo), they'll announce some sort of GDP targeting measures. No big numbers, just a crazy big commitment to do whatever it takes to "save" the economy.
We should know soon enough.
IMF==Fed
I understand what you mean, but apparently it's not exactly the case.
They way I understand it, if they print money (SDR), they don't ask a loan to the FED. They have their own balance sheet.
https://twitter.com/JamesGRickards/status/245022924711534592
Another solution is the IMF. After all, they also have a full functioning printing press They even bought some gold a few month ago, to me that's a sign they'll act at some point.
But if you listen to Jim Rickards (who is both smart and well connected imo), they'll announce some sort of GDP targeting measures. No big numbers, just a crazy big commitment to do whatever it takes to "save" the economy.
We should know soon enough.
They even bought some gold a few month ago, to me that's a sign they'll act at some point.But if you listen to Jim Rickards (who is both smart and well connected imo), they'll announce some sort of GDP targeting measures. No big numbers, just a crazy big commitment to do whatever it takes to "save" the economy.
We should know soon enough.
About the most useful thing the Fed could do is to instruct their member banks to take write-offs on mortgages that are still underwater. But they won't do that.
the only thing useful the Fed can do is commit hara-kiri.
Does that 2 day meeting begin or end on Thur?
All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Sounds like a bunch of shattered knees and ankles when they hit the bottom of that sinkhole. Maybe a few hips and backs too.Jumper Down!
Hmm... three in one day - connected? Were they bankers?
They are all vying for who gets to land on top of everyone else.
sounds like those guys wanted to hit the pavement as hard as they could.
They think there is enough hang time to change their position. That's the bet.
aka Wile E Coyote
Time's up!
All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Sounds like a bunch of shattered knees and ankles when they hit the bottom of that sinkhole. Maybe a few hips and backs too.Jumper Down!
Hmm... three in one day - connected? Were they bankers?
They are all vying for who gets to land on top of everyone else.
sounds like those guys wanted to hit the pavement as hard as they could.
They think there is enough hang time to change their position. That's the bet.
aka Wile E Coyote
All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Sounds like a bunch of shattered knees and ankles when they hit the bottom of that sinkhole. Maybe a few hips and backs too.Jumper Down!
Hmm... three in one day - connected? Were they bankers?
They are all vying for who gets to land on top of everyone else.
sounds like those guys wanted to hit the pavement as hard as they could.
They think there is enough hang time to change their position. That's the bet.
Too bad nobody wants to take their position off their hands.
Somebody will—for pennies on the dollar.
Me! Me! Does covering shorts for massive gains count?
It counts—if you can actually collect.
That's why I have far more in bitcoin than my retirement account. If my broker doesn't explode, I'll reinvest the profits for the long term once the blood is running thick.
Thanks for your explanation, miscreanity.
Why doesn't the fed give the money to the people unable to repay their loans instead of propping up their balance sheets with it? Would that fix the solvency problem? Probably not, right, because you can't borrow yourself out of a debt problem.
Banker Reply; HAHAHAH MUAHAHAhh ROFLMAO, give, give.. money to workers? They do not know how to manage their money or they would not need our loans in the first place..Why doesn't the fed give the money to the people unable to repay their loans instead of propping up their balance sheets with it? Would that fix the solvency problem? Probably not, right, because you can't borrow yourself out of a debt problem.
Heh, that's probably not too far from the truth.
This had been attempted early in the crisis - $500-600 was provided to each taxpayer. The problem from a bank/gov't perspective is that there's no way to guarantee that money will go to consumer spending (or the right kind of spending), thereby supporting economic activity. If it goes toward paying debt down, that exacerbates the banks' condition (the loan may be paid off, but there's still a cashflow shortage). Essentially, attempting to herd cats is much more difficult than just putting the funds into banks where it can then be more effectively directed.
At least, that's the gist of the reasoning. In reality, the banks are black holes due to their insolvency and are dragging the entire system down - but because there's no external reference point, it's hard to see what's actually going on. You could picture a family in a house, with each family member representing one of the major world regions. All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Now it's a catch-22 where immediate collapse of the banking system as it is today will cause massive disruption because of the extent of dependence upon finance, and continuation of the banks' existence by supplying liquidity is just making the problem even bigger without actually fixing the underlying cause. The central and supranational banks (BIS, IMF, etc) have to decide which course of action will be most effective, and that's direct liquidity infusions into banks. It's like the difference between inhaling a drug or injecting it when you've got a plastic bag over your head and can't breathe.
lmao, your analogies are fucking hilarious!
All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Sounds like a bunch of shattered knees and ankles when they hit the bottom of that sinkhole. Maybe a few hips and backs too.Jumper Down!
Hmm... three in one day - connected? Were they bankers?
They are all vying for who gets to land on top of everyone else.
sounds like those guys wanted to hit the pavement as hard as they could.
They think there is enough hang time to change their position. That's the bet.
Too bad nobody wants to take their position off their hands.
Somebody will—for pennies on the dollar.
Me! Me! Does covering shorts for massive gains count?
I believe cypherdoc speaks about FRS's solvency. 
Frisch's Restaurants or Family Radio Service?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Sounds like a bunch of shattered knees and ankles when they hit the bottom of that sinkhole. Maybe a few hips and backs too.Jumper Down!
Hmm... three in one day - connected? Were they bankers?
They are all vying for who gets to land on top of everyone else.
sounds like those guys wanted to hit the pavement as hard as they could.
They think there is enough hang time to change their position. That's the bet.
Too bad nobody wants to take their position off their hands.
All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Sounds like a bunch of shattered knees and ankles when they hit the bottom of that sinkhole. Maybe a few hips and backs too.Jumper Down!
Hmm... three in one day - connected? Were they bankers?
They are all vying for who gets to land on top of everyone else.
sounds like those guys wanted to hit the pavement as hard as they could.
All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Sounds like a bunch of shattered knees and ankles when they hit the bottom of that sinkhole. Maybe a few hips and backs too.Jumper Down!
Hmm... three in one day - connected? Were they bankers?
All of a sudden, a sinkhole opens up under the house and it goes into freefall. Unless one of them looks outside, it will just seem like someone forgot to pay the gravity bill, so they try tying weights on themselves to counteract their floating.
Sounds like a bunch of shattered knees and ankles when they hit the bottom of that sinkhole. Maybe a few hips and backs too.
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