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Quote from: Rishblitz on March 11, 2015, 09:03:07 PM

Quote from: Buck Naked on March 10, 2015, 09:05:24 PM

And it's not an Onion headline.

It would be nice seeing Greece out of Euro zone, EU and Schengen, but it wouldn't be fair to let the people in the hands of despots like last time, hope they can get to an agreement.

It would be nice for the E.U to disappear and for European nations to be sovereign and not controlled by the elite.

No, it would be not!

Take the Greek example, a little less sovereignty would be great for them.

A government by an elite is way better than an incompetent despot.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 11, 2015, 08:13:25 AM

Quote from: Snail2 on March 11, 2015, 08:04:38 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 11, 2015, 07:41:27 AM

It's simple and pure rhetoric. People from Greece can already travel free inside Europe.
If Greece doesn't fix it problems, some of the people will go from there anywhere they can get a better living. And that will happen with or without more money from EU.

And the jihadis.. they can be recruited same easily all across Europe, I don't think that Greece can have really more than other countries. And they have to be trained somewhere, and I doubt that can happen in Greece.

Probably he referred immigrants outside of the EU and "authentic" jihadists from Syria and Iraq.

If they don't respect the EU borders protocol, then they will indeed have a big chance to get the well deserved (and wanted?) kick out from EU.

less dangerous than Americans wanting to impose gmos and fracking on Europe trough force and intimidation. they wouldn't want to be the only one in the deep shit, how to maintain the relative value of their papers? haaha. fuck them go Deutschland... remember that the usa changed once the took the best of the best of the 3 reich, and nurture them, feeded them, and let them expand. it's like Deutschland was a selectors, and the worst of the worst took control of the usa internally. it was so easy... pikers. and the trap worked. then those guys educated many (they had nothing against the jews, it was a pretext) and now we see their fruits... beautiful if you like horrors..

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Quote from: V for Varoufakis on March 12, 2015, 01:10:36 PM

LOL! I don't believe that EU has the guts to kick out Greece. They are chickens and they are afraid..!

Giving up on a land-grab when the Reich want to expand even further? You can't think that seriously.

V for Varoufakis

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EU looks like a sissy now! They shit their pants! lol!

Lethn

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Quote from: V for Varoufakis on March 13, 2015, 06:19:49 AM

It is not threat. It is self defence.

They just don't have the balls or individuality to leave the EU and are trying everything they can to appease their masters, it's really amazing how some people actively want to be treated like shit for the rest of their lives because they're too afraid of an uncertain future. I hope the Greek people grow some brains and realise these politicians aren't on their side, but these leaders don't elect themselves sadly.

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It is not threat. It is self defence.

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What a stupid thing to say. Roll Eyes

This is Sparta?

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Wow, If Greece did this they could be considered terrorists themselves. What a bunch of assholes. From the culture that brought us democracy (and a million other societal staples) they're going to spread terrorism around the continent.

They should be ashamed at this kind of threat. Greece needs to act like an adult...cut services to right size their income statement and if residents don't like it, they can leave or try to vote for an alternative.

It's not the EU's fault that Greece is going bankrupt.

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Quote from: ChicagoSchooler on March 10, 2015, 08:53:51 PM

Things have at least gone to extreme rhetoric:

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Greek Defense Minister Panos Kammenos warns Europe that if no bailout of its economic crisis is forthcoming, his nation will flood Europe with migrants and jihadists, providing them with papers to travel legally throughout the continent.

Kammenos said: “If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State, too.”

“If they strike us, we will strike them,” the official said. “We will give to migrants from everywhere the documents they need to travel in the Schengen area, so that the human wave could go straight to Berlin.” The Schengen area is passport-free.

I don't know, seems like a little bit far-fetched headline doesn't it? You should work in a newspaper or something.

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LOL! I don't believe that EU has the guts to kick out Greece. They are chickens and they are afraid..!

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 11, 2015, 07:41:27 AM

It's simple and pure rhetoric. People from Greece can already travel free inside Europe.
If Greece doesn't fix it problems, some of the people will go from there anywhere they can get a better living. And that will happen with or without more money from EU.

And the jihadis.. they can be recruited same easily all across Europe, I don't think that Greece can have really more than other countries. And they have to be trained somewhere, and I doubt that can happen in Greece.

This isn't rhetoric at all. Jihadists could apply for Greek citizenship as refugees, the Greek government could grant them a Greek passport which would unable them to travel freely anywhere in Europe.

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Quote from: Rishblitz on March 11, 2015, 09:03:07 PM

It would be nice for the E.U to disappear and for European nations to be sovereign and not controlled by the elite.

Do not be naive. European countries were controlled by the very same elite since ages, with the EU they are just joined forces and built an institution what represents their common interests.

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Quote from: Buck Naked on March 10, 2015, 09:05:24 PM

And it's not an Onion headline.

It would be nice seeing Greece out of Euro zone, EU and Schengen, but it wouldn't be fair to let the people in the hands of despots like last time, hope they can get to an agreement.

It would be nice for the E.U to disappear and for European nations to be sovereign and not controlled by the elite.

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sink one of these migrant boats in the med, they'll soon stop coming over

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Quote from: Snail2 on March 11, 2015, 08:04:38 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 11, 2015, 07:41:27 AM

It's simple and pure rhetoric. People from Greece can already travel free inside Europe.
If Greece doesn't fix it problems, some of the people will go from there anywhere they can get a better living. And that will happen with or without more money from EU.

And the jihadis.. they can be recruited same easily all across Europe, I don't think that Greece can have really more than other countries. And they have to be trained somewhere, and I doubt that can happen in Greece.

Probably he referred immigrants outside of the EU and "authentic" jihadists from Syria and Iraq.

If they don't respect the EU borders protocol, then they will indeed have a big chance to get the well deserved (and wanted?) kick out from EU.

Snail2

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 11, 2015, 07:41:27 AM

It's simple and pure rhetoric. People from Greece can already travel free inside Europe.
If Greece doesn't fix it problems, some of the people will go from there anywhere they can get a better living. And that will happen with or without more money from EU.

And the jihadis.. they can be recruited same easily all across Europe, I don't think that Greece can have really more than other countries. And they have to be trained somewhere, and I doubt that can happen in Greece.

Probably he referred immigrants outside of the EU and "authentic" jihadists from Syria and Iraq.

countryfree

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Your country may be your worst enemy

The EU was supposed to be a club where countries would be partners, and Greece's being such a poor and inefficient country, it needs friends! I guess the new Greek government wants the country kicked out of EU, but that it doesn't want the Greek people to think it's responsible for the exit.

That's the EU's problem. It should be a gentlemen's club, and it doesn't know how to handle rogue members such as Greece.

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It's simple and pure rhetoric. People from Greece can already travel free inside Europe.
If Greece doesn't fix it problems, some of the people will go from there anywhere they can get a better living. And that will happen with or without more money from EU.

And the jihadis.. they can be recruited same easily all across Europe, I don't think that Greece can have really more than other countries. And they have to be trained somewhere, and I doubt that can happen in Greece.

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Quote from: Panos Kammenos (Greek Defence Minister)

“If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State, too.”

I cannot imagine an government official said that! I had to find a second source, but this for real:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11459675/Greeces-defence-minister-threatens-to-send-migrants-including-jihadists-to-Western-Europe.html

Nikos Kotzias, the Greek foreign minister, said the same thing: "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists”. This is extortion! They did not manage their finances well and defaulted their loans. Now they make threats to export terrorists? They deserve to leave the EU.

Lethn

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If it weren't for the Jihadists bit, that would actually be quite funny, that said, it shows you what dicks these mainstream politicians are, I don't understand how people keep electing them, oh wait a second, I do, it's because the voting blocks are a bunch of selfish assholes who will attack the less organised with the majority vote. They should show some balls and hurry up and leave the EU to make their own country, but I suspect these guys are looking for a nice and safe EU career where they don't have to worry about elections.

I most likely won't vote in the general election but i'll definitely be voting on the EU referendum, I think though just to spite the main parties I'll be donating money to the Liberty League, in Bitcoin of course.

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