Guys, it is not necessary to keep bumping a resolved thread from 16 months ago, where the mediator ruled against the player.
@murkyz, you lost the your case because you are a scammer. There were multiple clear evidences presented to the licensor, who requires considerably more detail than any mediator, which made them rule in our favor. You are imagining things if you think a shared address was involved in any way, but since you got caught lying multiple times in your own thread, you clearly have a wild imagination. Additionally, 4 days after you lost that case, you were back at Betcoin with another account. We see everything. Get a job.
Topic: [0.85 BTC / $20K SCAM] Playbetr.com + Betcoin.ag SCAM! Accounts closed, IGNORING (Read 1069 times)
July 09, 2024, 07:59:50 AM
July 09, 2024, 02:09:17 AM
Hello everyone,
I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.
To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.
For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.
They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.
I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.
To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.
For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.
They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.
I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Good Luck man, They falsely accused me of multiaccounting by showing my binance address transfers to other casinos when binance has a shared pool of address for their clients lol
I lost my case with their licensor when I never multiaccounted but it was only 1.8k$ so I gave up
Hopefully you can get your money back
Yea I noticed after they responded that they showed evidence that I used the same "bitcoin" wallet for multiaccounting when I never used bitcoin on their page
I wish I knew before I went to their curacao licensor tbh My previous dispute with a licensor was with malta due to betsson freezing my account with 5k$ but I won that dispute so I had confidence but oh well 1.8k$ is nothing in the long run to learn about how curacao licensor works
July 08, 2024, 09:54:54 PM
Hello everyone,
I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.
To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.
For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.
They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.
I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.
To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.
For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.
They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.
I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Good Luck man, They falsely accused me of multiaccounting by showing my binance address transfers to other casinos when binance has a shared pool of address for their clients lol
I lost my case with their licensor when I never multiaccounted but it was only 1.8k$ so I gave up
Hopefully you can get your money back
July 08, 2024, 01:24:34 PM
Hello everyone,
I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.
To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.
For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.
They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.
I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.
To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.
For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.
They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.
I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Good Luck man, They falsely accused me of multiaccounting by showing my binance address transfers to other casinos when binance has a shared pool of address for their clients lol
I lost my case with their licensor when I never multiaccounted but it was only 1.8k$ so I gave up
Hopefully you can get your money back
July 08, 2024, 09:16:51 AM
It's disheartening to see how betcoin is handling this situation, especially when transparency and fairness should be paramount in any dispute. The lack of communication from them, as mentioned, is indeed concerning and raises questions about their integrity..
These are serious accusations that need thorough investigation. It is only fair that the community and other potential victims be made aware of these practices.
For betcoin, sharing the evidence of alleged fraudulent activities would demonstrate transparency and could help clear up any misunderstandings. This would benefit not only the parties involved but also restore trust among users.
Let's hope for a fair resolution soon.
These are serious accusations that need thorough investigation. It is only fair that the community and other potential victims be made aware of these practices.
For betcoin, sharing the evidence of alleged fraudulent activities would demonstrate transparency and could help clear up any misunderstandings. This would benefit not only the parties involved but also restore trust among users.
Let's hope for a fair resolution soon.
June 29, 2024, 07:23:55 PM
Hello everyone,
I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.
To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.
For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.
They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.
I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.
To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.
For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.
They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.
I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
May 28, 2024, 10:27:53 AM
I have no idea what happened but in every other case where ThePOGG, Askgamblers or casinoguru made a ruling, the case was concluded here at BCT. ThePOGG ruled for Playbetr. The OP should look for other outlets if he wants to pursue it further.
We aren’t going to get anymore information from Playbetr. It was already given to ThePOGG.
We aren’t going to get anymore information from Playbetr. It was already given to ThePOGG.
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PlayBetR has provided sufficient evidence to demonstrate that this player has opened multiple accounts in breach of terms and conditions. As such we will take no further part in the representation of this player's claim.
No further posts will be approved on this thread.
ThePOGG
No further posts will be approved on this thread.
ThePOGG
March 27, 2023, 10:05:36 AM
Hey. Update here from OP. I have made a short video explaining how I first found out about Playbetr, which was the end of last year. This video will show you a conversation with a friend of mine (another bettor) who recommended Playbetr to me. If you choose to believe me, this will prove I never was aware of the site until this date (dec 30 2022) and therefore it would prove that Playbetr have lied about me having used other accounts in the past. Please watch this video with a open mind, I'm aware it is not "proof" of anything, but anyone with reasoning would be aware that I am not lying about this being my first and only account which is explained in the video.
Here is the link, thank you in advance.
https://youtu.be/uR_jA9dxfiQ
Here is the link, thank you in advance.
https://youtu.be/uR_jA9dxfiQ
March 22, 2023, 11:50:32 AM
Scumbags. Unfortunately, I have also fallen victim to these sites in the past. It's a terrible feeling because you become so excited after winning big, only to have your hopes dashed when they delay the verification process and eventually come up with a reason to reject your payout.
If you are a victim of trouble on this website then you can share your experience here, so that other gamblers will benefit to be careful about this website in advance. These casinos continue their marketing in this forum, which leads to more new gamblers joining these casinos. So if you share your bad experience and if it is true it will be good for this community. March 22, 2023, 09:36:21 AM
They are scammers and its confirmed, I talked about it few months ago and I warned moderators and users here that more and more threads about Betcoin and Playbetr will be pilling up, no-one is taking any measurements, books have same ownership, same support service and they often make misleading IP proofs taking informations from both sites and just close accounts and never even return deposit.
March 22, 2023, 03:22:15 AM
Scumbags. Unfortunately, I have also fallen victim to these sites in the past. It's a terrible feeling because you become so excited after winning big, only to have your hopes dashed when they delay the verification process and eventually come up with a reason to reject your payout.
March 18, 2023, 08:17:19 AM
what other mediation sites can the player use?
Any player with a dispute can choose any mediator they want. As far as this player, the matter is closed. He doesnt get to hop from mediator to mediator hoping he finds one that rules in his favor. We spent a month working with this mediator, including countless hours spent researching and providing documentation of his fraud. If he didn't trust this mediator, he shouldve went with someone else. Obviously he wasnt going to choose askgamblers, as they ruled against him previously, as well. These mediators do not make it easy on us. They exist to advocate for players. In this case, we had ample evidence to show abuse. If we didn't, the account wouldnt have been shut down, to begin with. This matter is closed.
It appears that you are quite eager to close this matter, which is understandable. In the interest of the community and for the benefit of your other clients, why not share the evidence you have regarding the OP's cheating, both for arbitrage and creating multiple accounts? The OP has requested this action, and it would demonstrate your transparency and honesty while clarifying who is truly responsible in this situation.
March 18, 2023, 03:06:59 AM
Just stay updated on this thread and you will soon see.
I am not a regular in the Scam Accusation board. I come here occasionally. If you want my attention with any future developments of this case, the best way is to mention my name or quote a previous post of mine. That way my bot will notify me and I will eventually check it out. March 17, 2023, 03:20:17 PM
To people who do not believe I am innocent, I can prove everything to you in 5 minutes in a call. I can prove to you they are lying and have zero proof of any of their claims, which are all based on fabricated evidence.
Why would someone need to talk to you privately to see the proof you have? If you have proof you are innocent and the casino is lying, make it public. If you don't want to share it because it contains sensitive information, it doesn't make much sense showing it to an unknown internet person behind a forum username. Soon everyone will see what frauds Playbetr are.
Why soon, why don't we see it already? Because it obviously takes time to expose a big sportsbook for their scams. Me claiming I've been scammed obviously isn't enough, especially when they are denying it, making up lies & fabricating fake evidence. Just stay updated on this thread and you will soon see.
March 17, 2023, 01:39:51 PM
To people who do not believe I am innocent, I can prove everything to you in 5 minutes in a call. I can prove to you they are lying and have zero proof of any of their claims, which are all based on fabricated evidence.
Why would someone need to talk to you privately to see the proof you have? If you have proof you are innocent and the casino is lying, make it public. If you don't want to share it because it contains sensitive information, it doesn't make much sense showing it to an unknown internet person behind a forum username. Soon everyone will see what frauds Playbetr are.
Why soon, why don't we see it already? March 17, 2023, 10:40:43 AM
Any player with a dispute can choose any mediator they want. As far as this player, the matter is closed. He doesnt get to hop from mediator to mediator hoping he finds one that rules in his favor. We spent a month working with this mediator, including countless hours spent researching and providing documentation of his fraud. If he didn't trust this mediator, he shouldve went with someone else. Obviously he wasnt going to choose askgamblers, as they ruled against him previously, as well. These mediators do not make it easy on us. They exist to advocate for players. In this case, we had ample evidence to show abuse. If we didn't, the account wouldnt have been shut down, to begin with. This matter is closed.
Since you guys already spent countless hours researching his fraudulent activities. You must have those documents ready which you provided to thepogg.com. I don't know how thepogg.com mediator works, but I did not see any reply from Playbetr on the complaint thread. The user claims that thepogg.com never asked him anything related to this accusation. Let's say you are right. Do you deny that there could be miss understanding of detecting multiple accounts since this user claims once he used VPN? If VPN is not allowed then that's another case. But this guy claims he never heard of playbetr before, and he did not create multiple accounts. So, I would request you to cooperate with another mediator. This time it won't take that long since the documents are ready.
@OP, can you please stop swearing and come to the point? Your swearing and yelling won't make the difference. Would you mind contact with another mediator and invite playbetr? Would you accept the decision will come from another mediator?
Yes I'm fine with that. Sorry for the language. I am still looking for mediators to contact. Or in some way get in contact with thePogg and ask why playbetr claim we have had contact when that is completely false.
Playbetr also mention arbitrate betting. "This player has been found guilty of arbitrage betting at Playbetr" in the past. First of all. Please show all of my bets. Please show how any of these were "arbitrage" bets. All my bets were NBA bets. Multiple times I've asked you to show my bet history to show the forum how I broke the rules, but again you ignore the request. Still making up new lies every day as the scam goes on.
My guess is they have either 1. Fabricated false evidence which they provided to ThePogg, or 2. Working together with thePogg
So if option 1 is true, which I believe, then it might not matter what mediator I contact. As they will provide the false evidence to that mediator and they will rule in Playbetrs favor again. Despite me being innocent which can be proven by myself.
March 17, 2023, 10:20:10 AM
what other mediation sites can the player use?
Any player with a dispute can choose any mediator they want. As far as this player, the matter is closed. He doesnt get to hop from mediator to mediator hoping he finds one that rules in his favor. We spent a month working with this mediator, including countless hours spent researching and providing documentation of his fraud. If he didn't trust this mediator, he shouldve went with someone else. Obviously he wasnt going to choose askgamblers, as they ruled against him previously, as well. These mediators do not make it easy on us. They exist to advocate for players. In this case, we had ample evidence to show abuse. If we didn't, the account wouldnt have been shut down, to begin with. This matter is closed.
To everyone saying I have taken this to mediator. All I did was post the same thing I posted here on there. Not once did I get reached out to by ThePogg, which Playbetr are claiming. They claim we have had contact yet they have never emailed me or messaged me about anything. The only thing I ever heard from ThePogg was this: https://gyazo.com/25773442394a5c6997be0b69bcc3ee81
I was not able to communicate with them at all, but once again Playbetr are making up false lies and accusations. To people who do not believe I am innocent, I can prove everything to you in 5 minutes in a call. I can prove to you they are lying and have zero proof of any of their claims, which are all based on fabricated evidence. Soon everyone will see what frauds Playbetr are.
lol. so much for arbitration. I guess it was done and decided in secret?
March 17, 2023, 10:04:00 AM
Any player with a dispute can choose any mediator they want. As far as this player, the matter is closed. He doesnt get to hop from mediator to mediator hoping he finds one that rules in his favor. We spent a month working with this mediator, including countless hours spent researching and providing documentation of his fraud. If he didn't trust this mediator, he shouldve went with someone else. Obviously he wasnt going to choose askgamblers, as they ruled against him previously, as well. These mediators do not make it easy on us. They exist to advocate for players. In this case, we had ample evidence to show abuse. If we didn't, the account wouldnt have been shut down, to begin with. This matter is closed.
Since you guys already spent countless hours researching his fraudulent activities. You must have those documents ready which you provided to thepogg.com. I don't know how thepogg.com mediator works, but I did not see any reply from Playbetr on the complaint thread. The user claims that thepogg.com never asked him anything related to this accusation. Let's say you are right. Do you deny that there could be miss understanding of detecting multiple accounts since this user claims once he used VPN? If VPN is not allowed then that's another case. But this guy claims he never heard of playbetr before, and he did not create multiple accounts. So, I would request you to cooperate with another mediator. This time it won't take that long since the documents are ready.
@OP, can you please stop swearing and come to the point? Your swearing and yelling won't make the difference. Would you mind contact with another mediator and invite playbetr? Would you accept the decision will come from another mediator?
March 17, 2023, 08:41:45 AM
what other mediation sites can the player use?
Any player with a dispute can choose any mediator they want. As far as this player, the matter is closed. He doesnt get to hop from mediator to mediator hoping he finds one that rules in his favor. We spent a month working with this mediator, including countless hours spent researching and providing documentation of his fraud. If he didn't trust this mediator, he shouldve went with someone else. Obviously he wasnt going to choose askgamblers, as they ruled against him previously, as well. These mediators do not make it easy on us. They exist to advocate for players. In this case, we had ample evidence to show abuse. If we didn't, the account wouldnt have been shut down, to begin with. This matter is closed.
To everyone saying I have taken this to mediator. All I did was post the same thing I posted here on there. Not once did I get reached out to by ThePogg, which Playbetr are claiming. They claim we have had contact yet they have never emailed me or messaged me about anything. The only thing I ever heard from ThePogg was this: https://gyazo.com/25773442394a5c6997be0b69bcc3ee81
I was not able to communicate with them at all, but once again Playbetr are making up false lies and accusations. To people who do not believe I am innocent, I can prove everything to you in 5 minutes in a call. I can prove to you they are lying and have zero proof of any of their claims, which are all based on fabricated evidence. Soon everyone will see what frauds Playbetr are.
March 16, 2023, 12:34:02 PM
if igra4a has created several accounts in his name, it is the site's fault, it is 4e who allowed it and not a reason to steal his money.if different people have opened an account from the same IP, that is their right and as soon as they have confirmed their account they can play. this is clear from the law. the smallest violation would be discrimination
from these court decisions it can be seen that criminal activity is carried out by the sites-limit closure of accounts and other similar frauds
from these court decisions it can be seen that criminal activity is carried out by the sites-limit closure of accounts and other similar frauds
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