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Topic: 1 BTC = 1 BTC. You only lose if you sell. You're buying inflationary fiat. (Read 683 times)

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Even at this market condition MicroStrategy CEO Michael Saylor is bullish about the bitcoin price. He has mentioned of bitcoin as a long term investment and he'll continue to buy regardless of the price moves. His company stocks price fell down 45% from the previous week closing at the low of $168. About Dollar, the monetary policy expansion and inflation is a big problem affecting the purchasing power.

Current price action may seem discouraging for crypto investments but believe me, these are the best price to get into crypto. You will not find bitcoin under 30,000$ for long. There will be pain and fud in the market. If you are strong enough not to sell your coins in these panic times, believe me, you will be rewarded huge in the coming future.
Instead on freaking out yourself on these red or bearish times its more ideal if you do consider on having that DCA system as long your finances or budget allocation do permits you.
Not all would really be having the finances for them to make such action even if they wanted to but instead they do hold off their floating negatives until the market recovers.
For those people who had been dealing with this market and does have money to be invested then times like these are really the best one to dive in into the opportunity.
and besides there is other options right? and that is buying in the cheaper prices now and with that? of course we are all considering buying when the price is dumping  right now .

Like what OP says , it is 1btc=1btc and with that it will be always advantage for all of us in buying as long as we have our funds ready when there is a  bear happening like now.
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One tulip is still worth 1 tulip. Good job I didn't sell at the peak and buy a house

Tulips and bitcoins are not comparable.
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I like it better when someone buys a bitcoin at 60k and now the price has changed...and there is a debate about the final price.
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investing with the DCA strategy will be very helpful. Because you will routinely buy bitcoin at any time even though the market is bearish or bullish. If you continue to do it and you believe, of course you will benefit from what you have done. Little by little more will accumulate. You also have to really prepare your mentality and of course there are some reserve funds that are specifically devoted to bitcoin installments.
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That is the truth, bitcoin can not be compared to inflation coins, because Bitcoin Total supply 21,000,000, which 1BTC=1BTC no addition, and bitcoin is number one coin in crypto space, which many holder that did not saved it private key or Not saved it in propel for family not to have access to it and death take is the supply has automatically reduced without recorded on smart contract, Therefore is good to buy bitcoin and hold.
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It's funny and sad to see all people panicking. They are selling and losing. They're buying inflationary fiat Grin Do they even know it?

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC and the supply is very limited. If you can see this in the long run you will be a winner. Of course, chickens will run home as always Smiley

Don't worry, HODL, BTC will come back stronger than before. To The Moon! BTC

- Let the haters feel good, this is all they can do anyway.
This is a fundamental thought. From trading profits (about 50% of it) I am buying bitcoin into my long-term spot portfolio. It does really matter
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I would say that it doesn't matter temporarily or for the time being.

I can agree to that. Wink

Even the persons that hold, they hodl till a moment when the price becomes attractive to sell, I doubt that when BTC (big if!) hits 1 million too many will keep saying 1btc=1btc and more like 1 btc =5 lambos! Or rather than going through long explanations or scenarios, how about, "everything has a price".  Grin. There will always be either a price or a moment in life when everyone will simply say, f*& holding, I'm rich!

I think that the price has to be over (not just at) a certain level (which is different from person to person) for some time, to allow him sell.
I don't realistically expect one will sell $1M worth of BTC at once, just because the price is good. Getting that much fiat can be ... risky.
1M is another story. People's expectations/dreams may also depend on how much BTC they have.
But yes, here we're pretty much on the same page.

As for the newbies part, that's one of my biggest concerns when I'm entering bear mode.
If newbies get continuously scared by price dumps and they get fleeced in scams or pump and dumps schemes there is a moment when the inflow of users will start shrinking, and with a limited userbase there comes a limited fiat injection, and, you obviously can guess the end result.
That's why I'm always frowning and not cheering when I see talks about "weak hands/ cheap coins" and stuff like that.

Imho the 1 BTC = 1 BTC is meant to help them handle their fears.
Even "yay, more cheap coins to buy" is something I see as informative/useful for the newbies.
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I don't understand why people compare bitcoin to dollars or any other fiat, bitcoin alone holds value while fiat doesn't, what makes these worthless fiat currencies have so much value? They are the ignorant people who do not know that the dollar is a worthless fake paper!!! Why do they not pay attention to what happened in many countries such as Venezuela, Zimbabwe and others, where paper currency has lost its value and people are using it to set fire or toilet paper!!! The same thing can happen to the dollar.
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You're right that the current price (always) matters. But on the other hand, it matters only for the one who will buy or sell. If one decides to just hold for long, simply because he's no longer a good trader, or has never been, the price is just something not-really-relevant, which has a better chance to make him die of hearth attack before he gets to enjoy the returns of the investment. Or makes newbies panic sell (same newbies will be disappointed now, but may buy again when FOMO bubble is nearly at peak again).

I would say that it doesn't matter temporarily or for the time being.
Even the persons that hold, they hodl till a moment when the price becomes attractive to sell, I doubt that when BTC (big if!) hits 1 million too many will keep saying 1btc=1btc and more like 1 btc =5 lambos! Or rather than going through long explanations or scenarios, how about, "everything has a price".  Grin. There will always be either a price or a moment in life when everyone will simply say, f*& holding, I'm rich!

As for the newbies part, that's one of my biggest concerns when I'm entering bear mode.
If newbies get continuously scared by price dumps and they get fleeced in scams or pump and dumps schemes there is a moment when the inflow of users will start shrinking, and with a limited userbase there comes a limited fiat injection, and, you obviously can guess the end result.
That's why I'm always frowning and not cheering when I see talks about "weak hands/ cheap coins" and stuff like that.
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Being a BTC Holder will have many advantages, but we also have to know what the risks are. Buying at a low price or several years ago will certainly get a lot of benefits if psychology is still strong and believes that bitcoin will continue to grow.
many people suddenly become rich because they managed to hold bitcoin until now.
then buying at a cheap price today can also be a good choice. Remember the target price of $100k is still not reached, bitcoin still has a long way to go. Don't FOMO and don't follow the scattered FUD.

yeah right. keep doing your own research and looking from various sources to know when to start buying Bitcoins. I myself have paid in installments (DCA) . and as you said today many people become rich because they are so strong they hold bitcoin for years even though the fud is scattered but they are not consumed by bad news and still believe in bitcoin. so that they reap the sweet fruit of this day, namely, great wealth. and they deserve it because their struggle in holding bitcoin is not something that is easy to do especially for people who are mentally weak.
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I have always been surprised by those who are nervous about a bad investment. It is worth immediately assessing all the risks of such an investment in order to assess the possible results.
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Being a BTC Holder will have many advantages, but we also have to know what the risks are. Buying at a low price or several years ago will certainly get a lot of benefits if psychology is still strong and believes that bitcoin will continue to grow.
many people suddenly become rich because they managed to hold bitcoin until now.
then buying at a cheap price today can also be a good choice. Remember the target price of $100k is still not reached, bitcoin still has a long way to go. Don't FOMO and don't follow the scattered FUD.
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I think it all depend on your prospective, needs and expectations. Some people think bitcoin is a online gamble or something. Its not, bitcoin made its place by proving its worth over years as a technologically superior and safer mode of transaction as a currency  and it will keep doing so in future. The only people who want bitcoin to fail are the the pessimist morons who find the smell of their fiat currency papers to irresistible. There are bigger powers at play as well who wield great financial power and the bitcoin seem  make the economy trully liberal and thereby taking away their powers
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Well, to be honest, I'm not that good at doing business at all anymore.
Five years of negotiating contracts to the penny (no joke!) have made me a negotiation hater, I would rather throw an old phone I wanted to sell out of the window than engage in 3 mins of negotiations with the person wanting to buy it.

I've never been good at negotiating, so don't worry Wink

But the point stays, common, everyone that read it immediately thought 200k/2 > 100k coin  70k profit, if I would post an ad and asking for one or two BTC for a car everyone would first evaluate it in dollars then check the price then comment. Or we could go to the extreme, why not spend 10k BTC 1BTC=1BTC and one pizza is still one pizza  Cheesy

The thing is that depending on where we're looking at this, always one will be wrong and one will be right. So I will, in the same time, agree with you and keep disagreeing with you. Grin

You're right that the current price (always) matters. But on the other hand, it matters only for the one who will buy or sell. If one decides to just hold for long, simply because he's no longer a good trader, or has never been, the price is just something not-really-relevant, which has a better chance to make him die of hearth attack before he gets to enjoy the returns of the investment. Or makes newbies panic sell (same newbies will be disappointed now, but may buy again when FOMO bubble is nearly at peak again).

So, price is important only if one indeed sells or buys. For the rest, don't panic, 1 BTC = 1 BTC.
Of course, you may also argue that one can sell high then buy back low, but there's a risk factor there, making the equation less straightforward.
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So let's make a test
I'm offering you 5 000$ for one coin and 200 000$ for two coins.
Would you be interested in any of those offers?

This would prove nothing. It could prove that you don't know how to make a good business. Grin
That's because even if 1 BTC = 1 BTC (always!), still, business is business Cheesy

Well, to be honest, I'm not that good at doing business at all anymore.
Five years of negotiating contracts to the penny (no joke!) have made me a negotiation hater, I would rather throw an old phone I wanted to sell out of the window than engage in 3 mins of negotiations with the person wanting to buy it.

But the point stays, common, everyone that read it immediately thought 200k/2 > 100k coin  70k profit, if I would post an ad and asking for one or two BTC for a car everyone would first evaluate it in dollars then check the price then comment. Or we could go to the extreme, why not spend 10k BTC 1BTC=1BTC and one pizza is still one pizza  Cheesy

Somehow people never say that 1 BTC = 1 BTC when it's the bull market and everyone is fixated on its USD price, but when there's a bear market, we should all forget about USD price  Grin

or they say, it's still x100 higher than in 2009  Cheesy
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Even at this market condition MicroStrategy CEO Michael Saylor is bullish about the bitcoin price. He has mentioned of bitcoin as a long term investment and he'll continue to buy regardless of the price moves. His company stocks price fell down 45% from the previous week closing at the low of $168. About Dollar, the monetary policy expansion and inflation is a big problem affecting the purchasing power.

Current price action may seem discouraging for crypto investments but believe me, these are the best price to get into crypto. You will not find bitcoin under 30,000$ for long. There will be pain and fud in the market. If you are strong enough not to sell your coins in these panic times, believe me, you will be rewarded huge in the coming future.
Instead on freaking out yourself on these red or bearish times its more ideal if you do consider on having that DCA system as long your finances or budget allocation do permits you.
Not all would really be having the finances for them to make such action even if they wanted to but instead they do hold off their floating negatives until the market recovers.
For those people who had been dealing with this market and does have money to be invested then times like these are really the best one to dive in into the opportunity.
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Stopping people from panicking to sell their coin's will be actualize when you use this platform of bitcointalk to correct people that is in sin of not understanding the structure. When someone panic to sell they always end up of getting lost but whenever someone compute itself whenever market is dropping the person  make or regained profit when it rises. Getting profit you most learn how to take risk and hiw to patient for the investment. Been eager to sell will lead people to lost
This is true if you are investing into something that is great. Like for example bitcoin dropped and ethereum dropped as well so if you buy them a lot more right now then you are going to profit on it a lot in the future as well. However, if you end up buying Luna because it dropped so much and even 1 dollar would pay your mortgage levels of hope, then you are going to be upset about it for sure, there is no way that you could profit from this at all, you will end up with a big loss.

This is why you should be avoid buying big coins and you should invest into something that will make you some profit, a lot more profit, that's how you make a profit in the crypto world, not by investing into "anything" that goes down.
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Even at this market condition MicroStrategy CEO Michael Saylor is bullish about the bitcoin price. He has mentioned of bitcoin as a long term investment and he'll continue to buy regardless of the price moves. His company stocks price fell down 45% from the previous week closing at the low of $168. About Dollar, the monetary policy expansion and inflation is a big problem affecting the purchasing power.

Current price action may seem discouraging for crypto investments but believe me, these are the best price to get into crypto. You will not find bitcoin under 30,000$ for long. There will be pain and fud in the market. If you are strong enough not to sell your coins in these panic times, believe me, you will be rewarded huge in the coming future.
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It's funny and sad to see all people panicking. They are selling and losing. They're buying inflationary fiat Grin Do they even know it?

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC and the supply is very limited. If you can see this in the long run you will be a winner. Of course, chickens will run home as always Smiley

Don't worry, HODL, BTC will come back stronger than before. To The Moon! BTC

- Let the haters feel good, this is all they can do anyway.

Like what I also mentioned into several similar posts like these, it is easier said than done especially if a person has more than a couple of BTCs in their wallet. This means that the slightest shift to its price, whether a slight increase/decrease, means a gain/loss of over thousands to millions of $$$ in the process. But I do agree with your statement, 1 BTC will always be equal to 1 BTC regardless of its value in the market and its inflationary nature.

That is why, always HODL for the meantime especially if you are not experiencing any financial strains or conflict. Treat these as your long-term investments just like any other blue chip companies.
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well that is the difference between people who trade daily and people who invest long term.

people who invest long-term then their mentality is already prepared with what will happen as it is today. because the price goes down and up is normal. and they only focus on the price target or big potential in the future.

but I can understand those who trade day by day. those who choose a cutloss after a loss of a few percent is a good move. because they can buy back from the bottom and sell back at the top.

so the two circumstances have different methods between scalpers and long term investments.

and its application should not be a scalper using thinking that invests long term because it is not suitable. because scalpers or day traders focus on daily earnings. if you lose today. can start trading again the next day.
I don't believe that only the traders are selling these days but there must be investors with weak hands that sells because they are too scared seeing the price dumped too much. Stable coins are useful and they can prevent your coins from fluctuating, and selling coins doesn't always mean that you sell at a loss but there must be an old investor that have bought when btc was cheaper than what the price we are seeing today so they still earns something even if they sell their coins.

If you are a trader, you haven't waited for this dip to sell but traders have already sold their btc before this dip happened and they are now at it, buying again. They will sell once they see a small increase.
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