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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on May 13, 2022, 06:21:09 PM

Somehow people never say that 1 BTC = 1 BTC when it's the bull market and everyone is fixated on its USD price, but when there's a bear market, we should all forget about USD price Grin

You are right. On bull market people also start partying because the price looks great, forgetting that they are on profit only if they sell; and most may only sell when the price actually goes down.

During the bull market, people count 1 BTC = how many gold bars, teslas, lambos, boats ... no one cares about the USD. Wink

Quote from: hatshepsut93 on May 13, 2022, 06:21:09 PM

Sure, Bitcoin will recover and reach new highs, but it doesn't mean that crashes like this one don't matter at all.

Of course, it matters. It matters because it gives an opportunity to new investors to enter the market. Bitcoin may not offer the same opportunity that early investors had, but it still presents an opportunity for everyone to double their investment within a few years. This makes it the best asset on the market today.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on May 13, 2022, 06:21:09 PM

Somehow people never say that 1 BTC = 1 BTC when it's the bull market and everyone is fixated on its USD price, but when there's a bear market, we should all forget about USD price Grin

You are right. On bull market people also start partying because the price looks great, forgetting that they are on profit only if they sell; and most may only sell when the price actually goes down.

Quote from: hatshepsut93 on May 13, 2022, 06:21:09 PM

Sure, Bitcoin will recover and reach new highs, but it doesn't mean that crashes like this one don't matter at all.

Of course they matter, but imho telling that 1 BTC = 1 BTC often enough may help on newbies' morale. Understanding that 1 BTC = 1 BTC and the price should eventually get back (at least) to the levels they've bought at might help some to avoid buying high and selling low (and if that's achieved, they can easily become long term holders).
At least this is how I see the things.

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Somehow people never say that 1 BTC = 1 BTC when it's the bull market and everyone is fixated on its USD price, but when there's a bear market, we should all forget about USD price Grin

This crash like any other bear market shouldn't be downplayed. It's a sign that Bitcoin still operates on the basis of speculative boom-bust cycles, so it's not really a strong safe haven asset that can rival gold.

Sure, Bitcoin will recover and reach new highs, but it doesn't mean that crashes like this one don't matter at all.

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The Fiat value of bitcoin was changing every day with some investors. If ery simple to make a sheet and inverse on the same side. When the price of bitcoin was increased in the strengthen. Cash out the funds, when you found it very useful. Buy at the inflation and the price will go the next pump. It's enough to sell such type, don't worry about the minor change in the price of bitcoin.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on May 13, 2022, 03:52:57 PM

Even at this market condition MicroStrategy CEO Michael Saylor is bullish about the bitcoin price. He has mentioned of bitcoin as a long term investment and he'll continue to buy regardless of the price moves. His company stocks price fell down 45% from the previous week closing at the low of $168. About Dollar, the monetary policy expansion and inflation is a big problem affecting the purchasing power.

We could really be having our own inputs and views on certain things and since we are talking bitcoin or crypto market as a whole then we do know on what are the probabilities and risk attached to it.

Whether they do see for it to reach out 100k or more is something correlates to those perma-bulls but we know that this market doesnt really only move on a single path
which we do obviously seeing these scenarios to happen which is really that very common and something that someone should really be aware of.

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1 btc = 0.95 btc now

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Even at this market condition MicroStrategy CEO Michael Saylor is bullish about the bitcoin price. He has mentioned of bitcoin as a long term investment and he'll continue to buy regardless of the price moves. His company stocks price fell down 45% from the previous week closing at the low of $168. About Dollar, the monetary policy expansion and inflation is a big problem affecting the purchasing power.

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Only few people are buying bitcoin as bitcoin while most of them are buying because bitcoin is digital asset which is giving unimaginable returns in very short term for them it is never going to be easy to see their portfolio lose its half of the value in just matter of hours. Buy when its low and stand out from the crowd we can't able to make others decision while we can grab our opportunities.

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Those panicked people will be around even though they also know that the sharply falling bitcoin price will surely rise again one day. But they still can't accept if the price of bitcoin drops, let alone drops past 10% and that's why many of them then sell some of the bitcoins they have in the hope of buying at the lowest price. Maybe that way, they can withdraw profits for a while if bitcoin conditions are not stable or have not gone up high so they can still benefit from the difference in bitcoin prices.

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Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

It's funny and sad to see all people panicking. They are selling and losing. They're buying inflationary fiat Grin

Do they even know it?

From the outside, the current panic of the surrounding people, who control themselves and have strong nerves, like virtualdn, can look both funny and strange. Yes, you are undoubtedly right when virtualdn say that with the sale they only fix their losses and it will be impossible to restore the lost. If the alarmists didn't do this, then over time, when the market recovers, they would have every chance to compensate for the "paper" losses. Now, their losses are not on "paper", but in reality, which creates even more losses, since this is fiat subject to inflation.

Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC and the supply is very limited. If you can see this in the long run you will be a winner. Of course, chickens will run home as always

Those who panicked immediately forgot about it, because fear blinds their eyes and envelops their minds. Their fate is only in their hands. This is the peculiarity of bitcoin. This needs to be handled thoughtfully and carefully.

Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

Don't worry, HODL, BTC will come back stronger than before. To The Moon! BTC

- Let the haters feel good, this is all they can do anyway.

So it was before, always, and so it will be in the future.

I think haters should be ignored. There are ways to spend your time on more important and interesting activities.

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Quote from: retreat on May 12, 2022, 09:49:26 AM

We really can't stop people from panicking and selling, but we can stop ourselves from selling. those who have a "weak hand" will only experience heavy losses and those who have a "strong hand" will gain large profits from the bulls that will occur in the future. let those who are weak out of the market, and we who are strong stay and believe in bitcoin.

Stopping people from panicking to sell their coin's will be actualize when you use this platform of bitcointalk to correct people that is in sin of not understanding the structure. When someone panic to sell they always end up of getting lost but whenever someone compute itself whenever market is dropping the person make or regained profit when it rises. Getting profit you most learn how to take risk and hiw to patient for the investment. Been eager to sell will lead people to lost

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Quote from: stompix on May 12, 2022, 10:39:30 PM

Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC

So let's make a test
I'm offering you 5 000$ for one coin and 200 000$ for two coins.
Would you be interested in any of those offers?

This would prove nothing. It could prove that you don't know how to make a good business. Grin

That's because even if 1 BTC = 1 BTC (always!), still, business is business Cheesy

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Quote from: kiddex on May 12, 2022, 02:02:08 AM

yeah that true but where is the bottom to this $hit show we are currently at 27000 for bitcoin. I am no TA expert at all but i ve heard the next support is somewhere between 20000-21000.

If you are a long-term holder and investing in bitcoin doesn't affect your day-to-day economy, then I don't think you should worry too much and worry about how much bitcoin will drop.
If you go through 2018 you will see bitcoin drop from $20k to $3k and in 2021 you will see BTC's all-time high of $69,000. No need to worry too much about the price, keep holding in the bear market and wait for a bull market to see its rewards.

sometimes we are tempted by a similar incident in 2018, but what is called humans, sometimes they are not strong enough to hold on, so they do panic sells, and suffer losses. moreover we have to hold long up to 4 years. it is possible that the price of $20k-$21k is a strong support, because there is resistance in 2017, therefore we must believe in ourselves and do something according to personal analysis, so that whatever happens we don't feel disappointed

But what is happening with the market today is this a fresh start to return to the prices of four years ago.?
Isn't there a price correction every year?
Only those who panic sell always feel a loss because they think that everything will just pass.

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Quote from: SpenserReed on May 12, 2022, 11:01:35 PM

Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC and the supply is very limited.

But it seems to me that 1 USD will also always equal 1 USD... but I support 100% that fiat is inflationary Cool

That's the trick, 1 USD is never equal to 1 USD. It applies to all fiat.

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Quote from: ilovealtcoins on May 12, 2022, 11:12:59 PM

Quote from: kiddex on May 12, 2022, 02:02:08 AM

yeah that true but where is the bottom to this $hit show we are currently at 27000 for bitcoin. I am no TA expert at all but i ve heard the next support is somewhere between 20000-21000.

If you are a long-term holder and investing in bitcoin doesn't affect your day-to-day economy, then I don't think you should worry too much and worry about how much bitcoin will drop.
If you go through 2018 you will see bitcoin drop from $20k to $3k and in 2021 you will see BTC's all-time high of $69,000. No need to worry too much about the price, keep holding in the bear market and wait for a bull market to see its rewards.

sometimes we are tempted by a similar incident in 2018, but what is called humans, sometimes they are not strong enough to hold on, so they do panic sells, and suffer losses. moreover we have to hold long up to 4 years. it is possible that the price of $20k-$21k is a strong support, because there is resistance in 2017, therefore we must believe in ourselves and do something according to personal analysis, so that whatever happens we don't feel disappointed

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You made a good point by saying one bitcoin is one bitcoin, no matter what's the price you still own one bitcoin, you only lose some funds if you sell the bitcoins on a lower level and bearish market to buy and hold the useless fiat currency otherwise even if the price makes a deeper correction you still didn't lose anything, the only thing happens in the time when the price falls down deeply is some mental pressures and fears in the market and because of these factors, investors will be under the pressure of panic selling their assets to save themselves while that's a moment when they actually lose, during the time of the bearish market, investors need to control their emotional actions more than anything else.

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Quote from: kiddex on May 12, 2022, 02:02:08 AM

yeah that true but where is the bottom to this $hit show we are currently at 27000 for bitcoin. I am no TA expert at all but i ve heard the next support is somewhere between 20000-21000.

If you are a long-term holder and investing in bitcoin doesn't affect your day-to-day economy, then I don't think you should worry too much and worry about how much bitcoin will drop.
If you go through 2018 you will see bitcoin drop from $20k to $3k and in 2021 you will see BTC's all-time high of $69,000. No need to worry too much about the price, keep holding in the bear market and wait for a bull market to see its rewards.

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Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC and the supply is very limited.

But it seems to me that 1 USD will also always equal 1 USD... but I support 100% that fiat is inflationary Cool

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Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC and the supply is very limited. If you can see this in the long run you will be a winner. Of course, chickens will run home as always

When there is a wave of threads saying you shouldn't panic, how everything is fine, how 1 BTC= 1BTC you can be sure as hell there are a lot of people who have already shi* themselves, and my bet is the ones that are actually opening these topics.
Let's follow the logic, if the OP knows people are selling at a loss and panicking and he knows he can make a profit by buying low, why open a topic telling people not to do so and hurt his own future profit? As I can see, the only explanation is that Walmart is out of adult diapers!

Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC

So let's make a test
I'm offering you 5 000$ for one coin and 200 000$ for two coins.
Would you be interested in any of those offers?

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Quote from: virtualdn on May 12, 2022, 01:24:10 AM

It's funny and sad to see all people panicking. They are selling and losing. They're buying inflationary fiat Grin

Do they even know it?

Remember guys, 1 BTC will always equal 1 BTC and the supply is very limited. If you can see this in the long run you will be a winner. Of course, chickens will run home as always

Don't worry, HODL, BTC will come back stronger than before. To The Moon! BTC

- Let the haters feel good, this is all they can do anyway.

Supporting your post here because I have seen you posting several times about your attitude in Bitcoin from 2013 in which you keep holding the coins in your wallet for that long .
and Now even the value climbed more than 100x ? yet you are keeping the coins on hold and that is how i adore your strategy .

I will Keep holding for at least couple of years more before converting all to real life business .

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