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Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 102. (Read 260326 times)

legendary
Activity: 1078
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I've always been disturbed that a company which has the following stats:




can't afford or doesn't care enough to offer even half decent customer service including at the least live chat (they did for a short time have a half assed version of live chat during a part of the day).

Cs at Coinbase has always been rock bottom. Likewise their FAQs.
I've always felt that it was almost a point of honor with them that they gave the absolute minimum of helpful information and explanation.


Does anyone reading this have a bank or a credit card company which does not offer 24/7 telephone service?
Coinbase has never had consistent Live Chat and when they attempted it briefly it rarely was available, and they've never had phone cs.

When I've emailed questions it's apparent that the person answering often has only glanced at the first sentence or the title of the email to them and it's necessary to go back and forth a few times to get a partial answer.

They're also deceptive re: their insurance.
Their hot wallet is insured, not their cold storage where about 95% of customer's coins are stored.

Really a wretched company in numerous ways.


Any alternatives that you suggest?



That's the problem for people living in the USA - finding an alternative.

Circle just dropped their btc business.

The 99bitcoins.com article I posted above lists some alternatives at the end of the article:


"Don’t use Coinbase if you intend to use your bitcoins for anything 'naughty.' To avoid future legal entanglements, your best option a decentralised exchange, such as LocalBitcoins or Mycelium Local Trader."

There's also a link to click on: "Find the best exchange to buy Bitcoins", which also lists
LocalBitcoins   

VirWoX   

BTCe


I'll be looking into these.






legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
Hello.any suggestion to play in this site 1x-bit.com? there safe or scam web?
Thanks

There haven't been any problems to date. They are new so no rating has been put up yet. There is an affiliation between 1x-bit and 1x-bet. There have been some problems at 1x-bet.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
Hello.any suggestion to play in this site 1x-bit.com? there safe or scam web?
Thanks
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
I've always been disturbed that a company which has the following stats:




can't afford or doesn't care enough to offer even half decent customer service including at the least live chat (they did for a short time have a half assed version of live chat during a part of the day).

Cs at Coinbase has always been rock bottom. Likewise their FAQs.
I've always felt that it was almost a point of honor with them that they gave the absolute minimum of helpful information and explanation.


Does anyone reading this have a bank or a credit card company which does not offer 24/7 telephone service?
Coinbase has never had consistent Live Chat and when they attempted it briefly it rarely was available, and they've never had phone cs.

When I've emailed questions it's apparent that the person answering often has only glanced at the first sentence or the title of the email to them and it's necessary to go back and forth a few times to get a partial answer.

They're also deceptive re: their insurance.
Their hot wallet is insured, not their cold storage where about 95% of customer's coins are stored.

Really a wretched company in numerous ways.


Any alternatives that you suggest?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
I've always been disturbed that a company which has the following stats:




can't afford or doesn't care enough to offer even half decent customer service including at the least live chat (they did for a short time have a half assed version of live chat during a part of the day).

Cs at Coinbase has always been rock bottom. Likewise their FAQs.
I've always felt that it was almost a point of honor with them that they gave the absolute minimum of helpful information and explanation.


Does anyone reading this have a bank or a credit card company which does not offer 24/7 telephone service?
Coinbase has never had consistent Live Chat and when they attempted it briefly it rarely was available, and they've never had phone cs.

When I've emailed questions it's apparent that the person answering often has only glanced at the first sentence or the title of the email to them and it's necessary to go back and forth a few times to get a partial answer.

They're also deceptive re: their insurance.
Their hot wallet is insured, not their cold storage where about 95% of customer's coins are stored.

Really a wretched company in numerous ways.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
"Coinbase Review: 6 Controversial Issues You Have to Be Aware Of"


"Bottom Line: Should You Use Coinbase?

At times, it appears that Coinbase is more in the business of attracting investors than servicing clients or wisely developing Bitcoin. Given the foregoing, it’s impossible to recommend Coinbase without some caveats:

You should never rely on Coinbase to act as your wallet..."



https://99bitcoins.com/coinbase-review-6-controversial-issues/


And not only for the security issues the article mentions but because they will close one's account if they suspect or detect that one is making gambling transactions.
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
"A" rated books
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NR
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BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
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Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
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BetVIP - closed 6/12/15


Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
legendary
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Did you intentionally make Cloudbet "NR"?
Put them back up as C-.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
In case of concerns of the Coinbase situation and fears of FBAR non-reporting by btc bettors:

http://www.coindesk.com/irs-no-bitcoin-reporting-fincen-foreign-banking-tax-form/
Published on June 5, 2014

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/06/30/irs-says-bitcoin-not-reportable-on-fbar-for-now/#71e22610133b

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2015/01/11/dont-forget-bitcoin-at-tax-time/#7a7496637b73


Afaik and likewise an EA I consulted, the above is unchanged, so no problem if one did not do an FBAR report for 2013 and 2014.

But no one should ever use Coinbase as a wallet.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
Did you intentionally make Cloudbet "NR"?
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
newbie
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Merit: 0
Peeps Place, I have a big problem with Cloudbet. My account is blocked more than 2 months. Support ignored me! My login is fcmkh88
More here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbetcom-scam-1640675
Please help me

I'll shoot them a PM now.
Look for last 2 messages on this page.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.3760 On next page nickname Cloudbet just ignored my question. Same sh*t continues for more than 2 months...
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
Peeps Place, I have a big problem with Cloudbet. My account is blocked more than 2 months. Support ignored me! My login is fcmkh88
More here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbetcom-scam-1640675
Please help me

I'll shoot them a PM now.
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
When are you going to add ghostbook to the scam list? The guy just stopped posting in the forums and basically I don't think the website even exists anymore, it is shutdown, even though it was only available on TOR , you can't access it anymore
Thanks. They are added.
member
Activity: 168
Merit: 12
When are you going to add ghostbook to the scam list? The guy just stopped posting in the forums and basically I don't think the website even exists anymore, it is shutdown, even though it was only available on TOR , you can't access it anymore
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
Peeps Place, I have a big problem with Cloudbet. My account is blocked more than 2 months. Support ignored me! My login is fcmkh88
More here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbetcom-scam-1640675
Please help me
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
Cloudbet temporarily taken off the rating's guide.
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)
jetwin.ps B  (2013)

"C" rated books)
sportsbet.io C (2016)
anonibet.com  C- (2011)

"D" rated books
coinbet24.com D (2015)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
directbet.eu D- (2014)

Exchanges
betbtc.co (2014)
fairlay.com (2014)
betmatch.is (2016

Prediction Markets
btcbet.us (2016)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)

NR
cloudbet.com (2013)
1x-bit.com (2016)
powerbet.io (2016)


"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

BetVIP - closed 6/12/15


Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
Peeps - Perhaps you could add to your post #1 a warning re: not using Coinbase as a wallet.


good idea. Done
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
Peeps - Perhaps you could add to your post #1 a warning re: not using Coinbase as a wallet.

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