My Betnomi review:
Have used them now for 2,5 months. Quick and neat navigating website, nice layout. Good number of betting options and markets. Good and friendly customer service and my first 2 withdrawals were processed fairly quick (within hours). So I was just about to leave a very positive rating but now my 3rd withdrawal is pending for longer than it should be.....4 and a half days already. So I will report here once I received that one and then I will submit my final review rating.
Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 19. (Read 260297 times)
April 24, 2023, 09:19:01 AM
April 23, 2023, 02:43:29 PM
Playbetr has been taken down as the site now directs to the new Betcoin site. Although Playbetr didn't accept players from the US, Betcoin accepts players from the US.
April 22, 2023, 08:28:57 PM
Please reply to me on the highlighted text(thread creator, please tell me how to reply to parts of quotes?). When do you start restricting players? I mean the maximum bet (I take it you mean limit).
They limit when you are up probably a % of your deposit + when you show signs of being a somewhat smart bettor, also if you bet on smaller market games.
but I would love to hear betcoins reply on this
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If you believe we have scammed you, then you are welcome to complete a scam accusation here. If not, you are welcome to state your opinion on someone else's accusation, but an opinion is all it will ever be. You must know that abusive players exist. Let the process take its course. Our reputation is stellar and the decision made in your case should show that we do the right thing. You didn't have to file a claim against us. We reviewed the case, and you were paid. Why would anyone else be any different? Our business has concluded. Best of luck to you, moving forward.
You did not scam me, but you did scam my friend.
I am aware abusive players exist, but when I am being called an abuse player, a cheater and trying to drag my name through the mud, it angers me and makes me want to fight back against the books.
With what i know about my friends case, in my eyes you do not have a stellar reputation
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April 22, 2023, 08:21:14 PM
-SNIP
If you believe we have scammed you, then you are welcome to complete a scam accusation here. If not, you are welcome to state your opinion on someone else's accusation, but an opinion is all it will ever be. You must know that abusive players exist. Let the process take its course. Our reputation is stellar and the decision made in your case should show that we do the right thing. You didn't have to file a claim against us. We reviewed the case, and you were paid. Why would anyone else be any different? Our business has concluded. Best of luck to you, moving forward.
April 22, 2023, 08:07:53 PM
That's right, unfortunately we performed our investigation too quickly. Had we known then what we know now, there is no chance you would have been paid. Sadly, people like you are incredibly bad for the industry, as it forces us to review more accounts and take longer in the review process. We are now 100% sure that you cheated and continue to do so elsewhere.
This is laughable, you have absolutely zero proof I cheat, and I take this accusation very seriously. I would gladly take videos of myself betting, i'd walk around my home, record my address, everything, I have nothing to hide, I would love to know why you think I cheat, because you have 0 evidence. You guys are just salty that im a good sports bettor. I get limited and paid because I am profitable. And don't sit here and tell me that sportsbooks dont limit winners if they win fair and square.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-04/sportsbet-ceo-barni-evans-explains-the-companys-gambling/102186644
A change is coming to the sportsbetting world that's going to force sportsbooks to spot being shady. Luckily for you, you have a bogus Curacao license and can get away with the bullshit.
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Interesting, as your entire post history is a compilation of sites you have been limited on or banned from.
Is it?...If I get limited, its because I win on the sites fair and square, only site that has ever "banned me" is betcoin and rollbit, but I wont talk bad about rollbit because I made the mistake of letting someone in my house create and account for themselves not knowing that its only 1 account per household. Rollbit is good in my books.
I am here to fight against the books who do whatever they want to winners, I am sick of all the scams.
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You mean the 3 or 4 people who have created scam accusations against us? We have proven, in each of those cases, that the players were abusive. Do you think we only have 3 or 4 players? We have tens of thousands of active players, many receiving large payouts each day.
It seems as you have guys perfected how you scam people. Close their accounts, so they cannot get the evidence they need to show they did not cheat. And of course you will not show any evidence on the forum of them cheating, you just expect everyone to take what you say as facts. I am actually very suprised I was paid by you guys with the way you are scamming other customers.
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What it means is that when you get limited on betting websites, you then create additional accounts, using others for KYC, to circumvent those limits. If you are still being permitted on some bitcoin sites, they haven't caught you yet. But they will. We are all in this together, to catch abusers, such as yourself.
Well good thing I am not doing that, classy of you to just throw around accusations though with 0 proof. But I can prove I myself created a number of accounts in my own name, can actually prove everything. Again just faulse accustations from you.
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If you think a mediator is incapable of determining the actual facts of a case or can be compromised, you should get out of the industry, because you can't trust the books and you can't trust the mediators, so who can you trust?
You cause me to not trust the books with the way you conduct your business. You let people gamble, if they lose, its great for you because nothing comes of it, you just collect the money, but if they win, here comes all the accusations, withholding of money, and do whatever you can to not pay. And all the other scam books cause me not to trust them, I had an account on 1xbit just over a year ago, lost my balance and never redeposited. I later found out they are a scam site, so either way i was losing my money there.
Now its hard to trust mediators too, because how my friends case with a mediator went.
Sportsbooks have absolutely zero transparency showing their proof of cheating, maybe if they showed a little bit, me and others would be less hostile when you guys claim cheating
I wouldn't mind having a private convo with you to clear stuff up, because right now I am very angry with the way players are treated.
And I have to deal with being accused of being a cheater, and would love to go forward figuring out how I can conduct myself and my sportsbetting without having these false accusations thrown at me.
because I am myself, I bet myself, i create my own accounts in my own name.
Being limited is fine for me, i understand the casinos business, they do not want customers like me who are good at sportsbetting. Do I think its fair, no. But i can't change that.
April 22, 2023, 07:31:18 PM
You ended up paying me because you were 95% sure I cheated but couldnt prove the other 5%.
That's right, unfortunately we performed our investigation too quickly. Had we known then what we know now, there is no chance you would have been paid. Sadly, people like you are incredibly bad for the industry, as it forces us to review more accounts and take longer in the review process. We are now 100% sure that you cheated and continue to do so elsewhere.
I still use bitcoin sites, and have had only a very few issues.
Interesting, as your entire post history is a compilation of sites you have been limited on or banned from.
anyone I see winning on your sportsbook gets their account closed and you cause problems and try to scam them.
You mean the 3 or 4 people who have created scam accusations against us? We have proven, in each of those cases, that the players were abusive. Do you think we only have 3 or 4 players? We have tens of thousands of active players, many receiving large payouts each day.
im part of a betting syndicate (whatever this means)
What it means is that when you get limited on betting websites, you then create additional accounts, using others for KYC, to circumvent those limits. If you are still being permitted on some bitcoin sites, they haven't caught you yet. But they will. We are all in this together, to catch abusers, such as yourself.
You probably love going to mediator because you either Photoshop some documents, or pay the mediator off.
If you think a mediator is incapable of determining the actual facts of a case or can be compromised, you should get out of the industry, because you can't trust the books and you can't trust the mediators, so who can you trust?
Please reply to me on the highlighted text(thread creator, please tell me how to reply to parts of quotes?). When do you start restricting players? I mean the maximum bet (I take it you mean limit).
April 22, 2023, 07:10:32 PM
You ended up paying me because you were 95% sure I cheated but couldnt prove the other 5%.
That's right, unfortunately we performed our investigation too quickly. Had we known then what we know now, there is no chance you would have been paid. Sadly, people like you are incredibly bad for the industry, as it forces us to review more accounts and take longer in the review process. We are now 100% sure that you cheated and continue to do so elsewhere.
I still use bitcoin sites, and have had only a very few issues.
Interesting, as your entire post history is a compilation of sites you have been limited on or banned from.
anyone I see winning on your sportsbook gets their account closed and you cause problems and try to scam them.
You mean the 3 or 4 people who have created scam accusations against us? We have proven, in each of those cases, that the players were abusive. Do you think we only have 3 or 4 players? We have tens of thousands of active players, many receiving large payouts each day.
im part of a betting syndicate (whatever this means)
What it means is that when you get limited on betting websites, you then create additional accounts, using others for KYC, to circumvent those limits. If you are still being permitted on some bitcoin sites, they haven't caught you yet. But they will. We are all in this together, to catch abusers, such as yourself.
You probably love going to mediator because you either Photoshop some documents, or pay the mediator off.
If you think a mediator is incapable of determining the actual facts of a case or can be compromised, you should get out of the industry, because you can't trust the books and you can't trust the mediators, so who can you trust?
April 22, 2023, 07:00:15 PM
-SNIP
Interesting analysis from someone who "beat us" and got paid. And how about you go tell that to the thousands of legitimate winning players we host every year? We have a handful of scam accusations a year, each of which are responded to immediately and offered 3rd party mediation. We have not once lost a 3rd party mediation. This is because when we are 99% sure someone is a cheater, we pay them. That's how you got paid, isn't it? When we are 100% sure, we impose the strictest penalties we can. People cheat. A lot. When we have proof of cheating, we will do everything we can to ensure that the player will not only no longer play at Betcoin, they will not play at any bitcoin site. If that bothers you, maybe you need to look at yourself, because for a legitimate sports bettor, the best thing for the industry is to eliminate all cheaters. You will never find a case of a legitimate bettor having funds withheld at Betcoin.
You probably love going to mediator because you either Photoshop some documents, or pay the mediator off.
April 22, 2023, 06:47:03 PM
-SNIP
Interesting analysis from someone who "beat us" and got paid. And how about you go tell that to the thousands of legitimate winning players we host every year? We have a handful of scam accusations a year, each of which are responded to immediately and offered 3rd party mediation. We have not once lost a 3rd party mediation. This is because when we are 99% sure someone is a cheater, we pay them. That's how you got paid, isn't it? We we are 100% sure, we impose the strictest penalties we can. People cheat. A lot. When we have proof of cheating, we will do everything we can to ensure that the player will not only no longer play at Betcoin, they will not play at any bitcoin site. If that bothers you, maybe you need to look at yourself, because for a legitimate sports bettor, the best thing for the industry is to eliminate all cheaters. You will never find a case of a legitimate bettor having funds withheld at Betcoin.
Dont give me this bullshit, look at myself? I won fair and square on betcoin, and you guys called me a cheater, said im part of a betting syndicate (whatever this means) and all this other garbage. You ended up paying me because you were 95% sure I cheated but couldnt prove the other 5%.
Still think im a cheater eh?
show me some of the "winners" that u paid that won in the sportsbook.
I still use bitcoin sites, and have had only a very few issues. Yet anyone I see winning on your sportsbook gets their account closed and you cause problems and try to scam them.
I have 2 friends who have been scammed by you, which i know 1000% they did not cheat.
April 22, 2023, 06:20:24 PM
-SNIP
Interesting analysis from someone who "beat us" and got paid. And how about you go tell that to the thousands of legitimate winning players we host every year? We have a handful of scam accusations a year, each of which are responded to immediately and offered 3rd party mediation. We have not once lost a 3rd party mediation. This is because when we are 99% sure someone is a cheater, we pay them. That's how you got paid, isn't it? When we are 100% sure, we impose the strictest penalties we can. People cheat. A lot. When we have proof of cheating, we will do everything we can to ensure that the player will not only no longer play at Betcoin, they will not play at any bitcoin site. If that bothers you, maybe you need to look at yourself, because for a legitimate sports bettor, the best thing for the industry is to eliminate all cheaters. You will never find a case of a legitimate bettor having funds withheld at Betcoin.
April 21, 2023, 07:32:07 PM
Betcoin are a bunch of scammers, you beat them and they will scam you
April 21, 2023, 01:04:23 PM
Add housebets.io (2023) to NR
April 21, 2023, 07:13:29 AM
Let's start with this question, what is your experience of betting at these listed betting houses? When you get to experience "all the delights" of the rules and conditions of betting in these shops, then I'll see how you talk about ratings. I meant that most of these offices are not suitable for betting in the word "AT ALL", and they do not even deserve to be mentioned in any way rankings. They just should not be in the ranking and that's it! The ones that deserve some attention should be and should be mentioned, not the 100% cheaters!
April 21, 2023, 02:45:17 AM
I sometimes think that most of these bookmakers don't even deserve to be rated. They don't even deserve to be mentioned.
Regarding ratings from other sites, these ratings can be bought. You have to have real reviews to navigate. And you need to see and understand that the reviews are not fake.
Which betting dealers don't deserve to be mentioned and rated?Regarding ratings from other sites, these ratings can be bought. You have to have real reviews to navigate. And you need to see and understand that the reviews are not fake.
Please explain in detail what is meant by your opinion?
With so many names on the list and the rating from the best to the lowest, it can actually provide information to all of us when using one of the sites on the OP list.
Even if can add more, it will be even better and can easily provide references to all of us which sites are the best and most trusted.
You should be a little happier because you can see the reviews and ratings of the sites that you can use.
April 21, 2023, 01:13:59 AM
I sometimes think that most of these bookmakers don't even deserve to be rated. They don't even deserve to be mentioned.
Regarding ratings from other sites, these ratings can be bought. You have to have real reviews to navigate. And you need to see and understand that the reviews are not fake.
Regarding ratings from other sites, these ratings can be bought. You have to have real reviews to navigate. And you need to see and understand that the reviews are not fake.
You make a great point in that some of the books shouldn't be mentioned. No one should be playing at a "D" book. Agree that ratings could be bought. I try to bring over every rating guide that I see at BCT to make this a one stop shop for those looking at ratings and reviews. I'm not going to post about review sites that don't have a presence at BCT. For books, ralle seems to find them before I do but I'll put up every crypto book that I see. 100bookies https://100bookies.com/bookies-that-accept-cryptocurrency-eng/ and Cryptogamingrevu https://cryptogamingrevu.com/ have nice detailed reviews for those looking for more in depth information.
April 21, 2023, 12:53:38 AM
I sometimes think that most of these bookmakers don't even deserve to be rated. They don't even deserve to be mentioned.
Regarding ratings from other sites, these ratings can be bought. You have to have real reviews to navigate. And you need to see and understand that the reviews are not fake.
Regarding ratings from other sites, these ratings can be bought. You have to have real reviews to navigate. And you need to see and understand that the reviews are not fake.
April 20, 2023, 10:28:49 PM
What is it csgo500.com, does this casino have any reputation?
My mistake on csgo500. They accept fiat and have been taken down.
i'm wondering how nitrobetting.eu and betcoin.ag can have +A
nitrobetting.eu
this site is well known for being shady:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/nitrobetting.eu
Nitrobetting.eu scamming me for 25 mbtc
betcoin.ag
Betcoin.ag suspended 1.8btc acc, unresponsive to live chat or email 1 week+
as you can see, these two casinos are not casinos with an excellent reputation because in the past they already had scam accusations and complaints that we don't even know if they were resolved or not so how can you give an +A grade and stay at the top when they are casinos that don't even you have such a good service, it seems to me that you are basing it on the casino's years of existence and not on the criteria you created, anyway it is a note based on your own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of many people, I just hope that the people don't choose casinos based on these ratings
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betcoinag-202115
It's unbelievable that his casino is given an +A grade.
nitrobetting.eu
this site is well known for being shady:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/nitrobetting.eu
Nitrobetting.eu scamming me for 25 mbtc
betcoin.ag
Betcoin.ag suspended 1.8btc acc, unresponsive to live chat or email 1 week+
as you can see, these two casinos are not casinos with an excellent reputation because in the past they already had scam accusations and complaints that we don't even know if they were resolved or not so how can you give an +A grade and stay at the top when they are casinos that don't even you have such a good service, it seems to me that you are basing it on the casino's years of existence and not on the criteria you created, anyway it is a note based on your own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of many people, I just hope that the people don't choose casinos based on these ratings
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betcoinag-202115
It's unbelievable that his casino is given an +A grade.
Even though no book is perfect, Nitrobetting and Betcoin seem to be rated high everywhere giving me confidence that the "A+" rating isn't out of whack. On the first page there is a list of other sources showing all ratings threads and guides at BCT. I'll list threads and some screen shots now since all our ratings are close.
Other sources:
Old rating thread by RyanK https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-sports-betting-review-best-btc-sportsbooks-2018-customer-feedback-577102
Old rating thread by Frue Greeds https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sports-book-rankings-completely-user-generated-1820529
Current rating guide by 100bookies https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rating-of-top-20-cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-5158369 https://100bookies.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/
Current rating guide by cryptogamingrevu https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-gaming-revu-sportsbooks-and-casinos-handicapping-bonuses-5419723 https://cryptogamingrevu.com/
Ratings by Bitedge https://bitedge.com/crypto-sportsbook-reviews/#top-crypto-sportsbooks
Notes:
100bookies current ranking system up to date.
Bitedge has 3 sportsbooks listed as top crypto books. Nitrobetting is the only one that doesn't accept fiat.
CGR current ranking system up to date.
Ryan is an old thread that hasn't been updated.
Freud is an old thread that hasn't been updated. It was user generated by posters.
If there are other guides that just rank sportsbooks here at BCT, they will be added.
"A" and "B" books in this thread are recommended. "C" and "D" rated books aren't recommended.
April 20, 2023, 06:04:08 PM
What is it csgo500.com, does this casino have any reputation?
April 20, 2023, 05:05:37 PM
i'm wondering how nitrobetting.eu and betcoin.ag can have +A
nitrobetting.eu
this site is well known for being shady:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/nitrobetting.eu
Nitrobetting.eu scamming me for 25 mbtc
betcoin.ag
Betcoin.ag suspended 1.8btc acc, unresponsive to live chat or email 1 week+
as you can see, these two casinos are not casinos with an excellent reputation because in the past they already had scam accusations and complaints that we don't even know if they were resolved or not so how can you give an +A grade and stay at the top when they are casinos that don't even you have such a good service, it seems to me that you are basing it on the casino's years of existence and not on the criteria you created, anyway it is a note based on your own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of many people, I just hope that the people don't choose casinos based on these ratings
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betcoinag-202115
It's unbelievable that his casino is given an +A grade.
nitrobetting.eu
this site is well known for being shady:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/nitrobetting.eu
Nitrobetting.eu scamming me for 25 mbtc
betcoin.ag
Betcoin.ag suspended 1.8btc acc, unresponsive to live chat or email 1 week+
as you can see, these two casinos are not casinos with an excellent reputation because in the past they already had scam accusations and complaints that we don't even know if they were resolved or not so how can you give an +A grade and stay at the top when they are casinos that don't even you have such a good service, it seems to me that you are basing it on the casino's years of existence and not on the criteria you created, anyway it is a note based on your own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of many people, I just hope that the people don't choose casinos based on these ratings
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betcoinag-202115
It's unbelievable that his casino is given an +A grade.
April 20, 2023, 02:27:31 PM
I can't promise any screenshots, you have to contact the person personally. If it is so important to you, you can contact him yourself, but you will need to register on the Russian-language forum.
Perhaps I will ask him, but I can't promise, and I don't know when it will be either.
That you have contact with Betfury is good! And as I said in the forum I have concluded that this User is not from Russia.
Perhaps I will ask him, but I can't promise, and I don't know when it will be either.
That you have contact with Betfury is good! And as I said in the forum I have concluded that this User is not from Russia.
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