oh thank you. I want to try that. any suggestion for other sites?
Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 194. (Read 260310 times)
November 05, 2014, 07:38:57 AM
November 05, 2014, 07:35:39 AM
oh thank you. I want to try that. any suggestion for other sites?
November 05, 2014, 07:05:36 AM
anyone here play in olebitcoin? Is it okay to try? 
I used them when they went under the name SBOBitcoin and didn't have a problem. Now that they have changed their name and management, they want you to admit being a professional to get higher limits. Maximum limits for bets are 2 BTC but you can get higher limits if you admit to being a professional gambler. Some books have confiscated funds from professional gamblers.
Most likely they just want to receive a percentage of the volume bet by those claiming to be professional and net loss on recreational players. They should be able to figure it out on their own whether a player is sharp or recreational. If there are new people in charge and new rules, they should be treated as a new book.
November 05, 2014, 06:12:15 AM
anyone here play in olebitcoin? Is it okay to try?
November 04, 2014, 03:39:30 PM
BetVIP is currently offering 34 cent lines : -117/-117 or 1.8547/1.8547 - on NBA handicaps, with games that are going in 4 hours - so no excuse that odds are better closer to game.
Probably the worst juice of any btc book on this. Or for that matter, of any book anywhere, btc or fiat.
Probably the worst juice of any btc book on this. Or for that matter, of any book anywhere, btc or fiat.
November 04, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
Turns out BetVIP wasn't at fault with tonyq:
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Today [11-4-14] at 05:03:36 AM
Reply with quote #149
Whoops.....my apologies....BetVip had been answering me but I was looking in the wrong email account.
DOH!!
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Today [11-4-14] at 05:03:36 AM
Reply with quote #149
Whoops.....my apologies....BetVip had been answering me but I was looking in the wrong email account.
DOH!!
Shocked
November 03, 2014, 08:46:30 PM
Thanks for the posts gogo and harib. We need to know the good and bad. I'll try to get a hold of BetVIP.
Maybe more interesting to get ahold of tonyq and find out what his issue is besides lack of cs response.
November 03, 2014, 08:24:39 PM
Thanks for the posts gogo and harib. We need to know the good and bad. I'll try to get a hold of BetVIP.
November 03, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
BetVIP - I successfully made another bet today. No tech problems on the site. Hooray!
Except...
I was limited to a max bet of 52.63 mBTC or 0.05263 BTC = ~ $20 USD risked.
!!!
Hopefully this was a mistake on the book's part and your limits are not really that micro...
I was not allowed to rebet it.
Sent a pm 12 hours ago but haven't received a response yet.
All of this hassle, and then a $20 betting limit...
Even worse, I could've gotten the same bet elsewhere for all I wanted, but wanted to use BetVIP.
Now cannot get the bet at other book.
Except...
I was limited to a max bet of 52.63 mBTC or 0.05263 BTC = ~ $20 USD risked.
!!!
Hopefully this was a mistake on the book's part and your limits are not really that micro...
I was not allowed to rebet it.
Sent a pm 12 hours ago but haven't received a response yet.
All of this hassle, and then a $20 betting limit...
Even worse, I could've gotten the same bet elsewhere for all I wanted, but wanted to use BetVIP.
Now cannot get the bet at other book.
I first sent the above to them as a pm.
No response after 12 hours so posted it here (Oct. 22 - post # 445).
No response to date to either the pm or the above post.
November 03, 2014, 02:30:46 PM
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October 15, 2014, 09:01:23 AM
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Tony from www.bitcoinpunter.com here.
I sent an email to support yesterday.
Can it be answered please?
Thanks.
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October 16, 2014, 09:32:34 AM
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TWO DAYS...no answer.
Is this acceptable?
Angry
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Today [11-3-14] at 07:07:22 PM
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Just sent another urgent message....please respond....My patience is growing very thin."
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October 15, 2014, 09:01:23 AM
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Tony from www.bitcoinpunter.com here.
I sent an email to support yesterday.
Can it be answered please?
Thanks.
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TWO DAYS...no answer.
Is this acceptable?
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Just sent another urgent message....please respond....My patience is growing very thin."
-from the BetVIP thread
November 02, 2014, 12:11:55 PM
Nope - just a silly bug, which we just corrected!
Good to hear. GL today. Casinobitcoin- Is there a reason why you are taking NFL games down 1 hour prior to the start of the game? This has now happened 3 weeks in a row.
November 02, 2014, 12:06:26 PM
Nope - just a silly bug, which we just corrected!
Casinobitcoin- Is there a reason why you are taking NFL games down 1 hour prior to the start of the game? This has now happened 3 weeks in a row.
November 02, 2014, 12:01:43 PM
Casinobitcoin- Is there a reason why you are taking NFL games down 1 hour prior to the start of the game? This has now happened 3 weeks in a row.
November 02, 2014, 12:48:36 AM
The parent company of the former SBOBitcoin.com is Ole Group International Ltd, so it's possible that OleBitcoin is the same group.
Don't know why they would feel a need to rebrand though if it's the same ownership.
The last time I asked, they were still offering the same 3 books - Pinnacle, SBOBet, and IBCBet.
But the site only mentions 2 of these:
"OLE - Bitcoin is an agent for opening an account for sportsbook, casino and poker with renowned market leader like IBCBET and Pinnacle using Bitcoin transaction types that can be executed very quickly, either deposits or withdrawals."
Don't know why they would feel a need to rebrand though if it's the same ownership.
The last time I asked, they were still offering the same 3 books - Pinnacle, SBOBet, and IBCBet.
But the site only mentions 2 of these:
"OLE - Bitcoin is an agent for opening an account for sportsbook, casino and poker with renowned market leader like IBCBET and Pinnacle using Bitcoin transaction types that can be executed very quickly, either deposits or withdrawals."
November 02, 2014, 12:34:31 AM
OleBitcoin is lowered from "C" to "D+". OleBitcoin was previously known as SBOBitcoin. Since the change to OleBitcoin, the rules have changed. Maximum bets are 2 BTC. If you are considered a pro, the limits are raised to 10x that amount. In order to get your limits raised, you must admit to being a professional gambler. If you have experiences with OleBitcoin, please post them.
"Maximum bets are 2 BTC."
Not a good sign.
"In order to get your limits raised, you must admit to being a professional gambler."
They should be able to profile themselves. And some gamblers may want higher limits even though they are not pros, so they say "I'm a pro" to get limits raised. 2 btc limit (about $680 USD currently) is not a lot.
All of this is scaring me from depositing further.
Some of the agents for Pinnacle and the Asian books - or at least one of them - ask one to declare one's average bet size as part of the info for setting up an account.
November 01, 2014, 11:52:55 PM
OleBitcoin is lowered from "C" to "D+". OleBitcoin was previously known as SBOBitcoin. Since the change to OleBitcoin, the rules have changed. Maximum bets are 2 BTC. If you are considered a pro, the limits are raised to 10x that amount. In order to get your limits raised, you must admit to being a professional gambler. If you have experiences with OleBitcoin, please post them.
"Maximum bets are 2 BTC."
Not a good sign.
"In order to get your limits raised, you must admit to being a professional gambler."
They should be able to profile themselves. And some gamblers may want higher limits even though they are not pros, so they say "I'm a pro" to get limits raised. 2 btc limit (about $680 USD currently) is not a lot.
All of this is scaring me from depositing further.
November 01, 2014, 11:51:17 PM
OleBitcoin is lowered from "C" to "D+". OleBitcoin was previously known as SBOBitcoin. Since the change to OleBitcoin, the rules have changed. Maximum bets are 2 BTC. If you are considered a pro, the limits are raised to 10x that amount. In order to get your limits raised, you must admit to being a professional gambler. If you have experiences with OleBitcoin, please post them.
"Maximum bets are 2 BTC."
Not a good sign.
"In order to get your limits raised, you must admit to being a professional gambler."
They should be able to profile themselves. And some gamblers may want higher limits even though they are not pros, so they say "I'm a pro" to get limits raised. 2 btc limit (about $680 USD currently) is not a lot.
All of this is scaring me from depositing further.
November 01, 2014, 11:32:14 PM
Your ratings are truly a scam. You even say "Maximum grade for A is 2 years of business". Anonibet awful odds and everything. No instant withdraws yet they are rated an A. Nitro is by far a better book and has been in business 2+ years so yes they deserve A but of course YOU ARE GETTING PAID BY ANONIBET so thus you only rate ANONIBET as an A WHICH THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT. They have scammed many users in the past and continue to do so with every promo offered.
Anonibet hasn't scammed anyone. DirectBet ghosts have made accusations. DirectBet posts under numerous names. In the user poll Anonibet was the 2nd highest rated book and DirectBet was number 9 until DirectBet ghosts started posting influencing Ryan's ratings.
What DirectBet states should be taken with a grain of salt. Nitrogen also has a banner and is eligible for an "A" in December. Other books have banners. They would all be "A" if what you say is true.
November 01, 2014, 10:53:50 PM
Your ratings are truly a scam. You even say "Maximum grade for A is 2 years of business". Anonibet awful odds and everything. No instant withdraws yet they are rated an A. Nitro is by far a better book and has been in business 2+ years so yes they deserve A but of course YOU ARE GETTING PAID BY ANONIBET so thus you only rate ANONIBET as an A WHICH THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT. They have scammed many users in the past and continue to do so with every promo offered.
November 01, 2014, 10:45:17 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
Jetwin C +(2013)
BetVIP C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
OLEBitcoin D+ (2013) *
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+
Webetcoins D- (2014)
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
NR
altbetfair
Asianconnect88
Betabit
Betbanks
Betmoose
betxcp
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
Fairlay
finalstake
Flutterclub
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
Premiumtradings
tdsports
xbet.io
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
Jetwin C +(2013)
BetVIP C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
OLEBitcoin D+ (2013) *
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+
Webetcoins D- (2014)
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
NR
altbetfair
Asianconnect88
Betabit
Betbanks
Betmoose
betxcp
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
Fairlay
finalstake
Flutterclub
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
Premiumtradings
tdsports
xbet.io
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
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