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Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 42. (Read 260310 times)

legendary
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zikzik - I've read your threads along with Betcoin's replies. Betcoin is a top rated book without any payment problems from their sportsbook. I'm not saying who is right or who is wrong in this case. Disputes will arise. Let's wait for what SBR, or another mediator, has to say on this situation. Reading one of the replies from Betcoin, they are saying that they are willing to turn over all evidence.


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We will respond on this matter once the mediation is complete. We have every intention to provide the mediator with the full details of the case and to abide by their decision. If this mediator is taking too long for him, we have suggested several other avenues for him to try, include mediation through Casino.Guru, ThePogg.com and our Licensor, Gaming Curacao. Clearly, this player is more interested in defaming us on forums than getting the matter resolved. The evidence in this case is overwhelming and we trust that any independent party will find in our favor, however we will comply with whatever ruling is made by the mediator
from Betcoin.
legendary
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Maybe an idea, but I would personally expand the sheet a bit with options and sports from other bookmakers, now there are only 2 available.

Great idea, I'll get them all up. I've asked the other books to give me a list of offerings to make it easy. Some sports aren't listed in the off season for that individual sport.
copper member
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We will respond on this matter once the mediation is complete. We have every intention to provide the mediator with the full details of the case and to abide by their decision. If this mediator is taking too long for him, we have suggested several other avenues for him to try, include mediation through Casino.Guru, ThePogg.com and our Licensor, Gaming Curacao. Clearly, this player is more interested in defaming us on forums than getting the matter resolved. The evidence in this case is overwhelming and we trust that any independent party will find in our favor, however we will comply with whatever ruling is made by the mediator.

why are you dodging ALL THE QUESTIONS and requests in the other thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-closed-account-and-stole-around-1-btc-5284557). You have been asked by different users to specify my exact balance at the time when you closed the account and seized the funds. You have been asked to provide the list of my bets (and i agreed to that), so users can see the "so called abuse" as you claim.

You just keep ignoring all the questions, keep lying (i proved it with screenshot) and keep scamming.
legendary
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Betcoin.ag Forum Rep - Sportsbook, Casino
We will respond on this matter once the mediation is complete. We have every intention to provide the mediator with the full details of the case and to abide by their decision. If this mediator is taking too long for him, we have suggested several other avenues for him to try, include mediation through Casino.Guru, ThePogg.com and our Licensor, Gaming Curacao. Clearly, this player is more interested in defaming us on forums than getting the matter resolved. The evidence in this case is overwhelming and we trust that any independent party will find in our favor, however we will comply with whatever ruling is made by the mediator.
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Thanks for the posts zikzik and Betcoin. SBR is a great source for dispute resolution. I'll definitely read what they post concerning this case.

just to update everybody on the current state of my situation, that is described in details here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-closed-account-and-stole-around-1-btc-5284557

I filed an SBR claim, but has not received anything back for 4 days now (apart from the automated acknowledgement response)

Betcoin.ag has not provided a single piece of evidence of what they are accusing me and the other person (apart from the facts i have stated in my original post).

Betcoin.ag representative used lies to manipulate facts in the thread (i have proved the lies with the screenshots in the above mentioned thread).

Betcoin.ag representative since the beginning refused to confirm the exact balance of my account at the time of closing (i cant know it exactly as i had many big 3-5 games combo bets still pending, which all won later), resulting in me submitting the SBR claim with not complete, but approximate information.

Betcoin.ag representative in the beginning claimed that i (one person) had abused their system by creating multiple accounts, but later changed the wording and used "two players" in relation to those accounts.

Betcoin.ag representative failed to explain what exactly and how did i abuse their system, apart from the general sentences and using some history from 1, 2 years ago about how they were attacked by some group of individuals.

Just to remind everybody, i have deposited 1.8 btc to my account and have withdrawn only 0.1 btc from that account. The other person's account which betcoin.ag wants to connect to me was deposited with 0.1 btc and have not made any withdrawals.

thank you all, just wanted everybody to know what is going on.
sr. member
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Maybe an idea, but I would personally expand the sheet a bit with options and sports from other bookmakers, now there are only 2 available.
legendary
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Books - Since sports are seasonal and there may be omissions at this time, feel free to send me all sports offered during the year and you'll be added to the spreadsheet.
legendary
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Hi, sorry for intercepting the thread, i am new here and i really cant figure out where i should post about my unfortunate case with betcoin.ag

in short, had account since july, deposited 1.8 btc, withdrawn 0.1 btc. After last deposit about 0.4+ btc on October 20th, balance came to about 0.8-1 btc and account closed, refused to pay balance.

Please, can you direct me to where i should post about this. I have already written down ALL the details of this case, and the text is very very long... as the case itself is interesting also Wink

thanks a lot

Hello, as stated to you via email and DM, your Betcoin account was permanently closed for fraud. You used a VPN to circumvent our ban of the Ukraine. Players from this region have not been allowed for over 2 years due to widespread abuse, which has been well documented in this forum. Additionally, we have ample evidence that you are the owner of multiple abusive accounts at Betcoin.ag. We have suggested to you that if you believe this was an error to contact SportsbookReview and seek 3rd party mediation. We will be happy to share our evidence with the mediator and abide by their judgement. Thank you.

I understand your position and of course will post this to SBR. For now i spend lots of time to describe exactly what happened.
Once again i repeat, that i am not from a banned region (not from Ukraine as you claim), and i ONLY ever used one single account. The other account you are obviously implying is mine, i have no relation to.

i have created this thread to explain EXACTLY what did happen
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-closed-account-and-stole-around-1-btc-5284557

SBR report is next

thanks
legendary
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Betcoin.ag Forum Rep - Sportsbook, Casino

"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            


Hi, sorry for intercepting the thread, i am new here and i really cant figure out where i should post about my unfortunate case with betcoin.ag

in short, had account since july, deposited 1.8 btc, withdrawn 0.1 btc. After last deposit about 0.4+ btc on October 20th, balance came to about 0.8-1 btc and account closed, refused to pay balance.

Please, can you direct me to where i should post about this. I have already written down ALL the details of this case, and the text is very very long... as the case itself is interesting also Wink

thanks a lot

Hello, as stated to you via email and DM, your Betcoin account was permanently closed for fraud. You used a VPN to circumvent our ban of the Ukraine. Players from this region have not been allowed for over 2 years due to widespread abuse, which has been well documented in this forum. Additionally, we have ample evidence that you are the owner of multiple abusive accounts at Betcoin.ag. We have suggested to you that if you believe this was an error to contact SportsbookReview and seek 3rd party mediation. We will be happy to share our evidence with the mediator and abide by their judgement. Thank you.
copper member
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"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            


Hi, sorry for intercepting the thread, i am new here and i really cant figure out where i should post about my unfortunate case with betcoin.ag

in short, had account since july, deposited 1.8 btc, withdrawn 0.1 btc. After last deposit about 0.4+ btc on October 20th, balance came to about 0.8-1 btc and account closed, refused to pay balance.

Please, can you direct me to where i should post about this. I have already written down ALL the details of this case, and the text is very very long... as the case itself is interesting also Wink

thanks a lot
legendary
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"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing.
betbtc.co B- (2014)
      
"C" rated books
anonibet.com  C (2011)
fortunejack.com C- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.      
playbetr.com C- (2019)
stake.com C- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"D" rated books          
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)    
1xbit.com D (2016)
cloudbet.com D (2013)
wink.org D (2019)  
dbet.io D- (2019)  


"F" rated books or out of business
1x2coinsportsbook (2018)
Ball2Win
Betbit
BetCas
betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018.
Betlake.com
betmatch.io closed 2018.
Betroar.io (2020)
BetVIP
Bitbook
Bitbm
Bitcoinsport
Bitcoinlivebets
Bitcoinrush.io
Bitgame.online (2017)
bitsport.bet
Blockbet
BTCBonusBook (2015).
Casinoco (2015).
Coinbet
Coindrafts (2014)
DirectBet
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo (2013)
Jetwin.ps
Kawbet.com (2020)
Malubit (2019)
Match365
Powerbet (2016)
Sportbet.im
StakeBTC
Webetcoins
webet7.com
legendary
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Dear member,

Due to the anonymous nature of Anonibet we do not ask for detailed customer information such as ID, contact address etc. from our members. In this respect to protect our betting business and safety of users we monitor traffic to the site closely.

As explained earlier, we have observed high volume of traffic coming through your IP, strangely at a time even when you were not online. We do not and can not know what triggered that traffic, but it is certain that it is coming from your IP.

We have a very strict policy on the issue and do not let any player who violates our security rules. Therefore your membership will be cancelled and your account will stay closed.  We strongly advise not to open a new account with us, as it will be closed and confiscated as well.  

We would also like to remind you that your account had also been under investigation more than once, for your betting patterns and winnings at Anonibet Casino earlier. In cooperation with our casino providers we did not limit or cancel your account at these investigations that time.

Kind regards,

Anonibet Team

My account has been closed and my 0.651 BTC has been confiscated by anonibet for reasons of, brace yourselves: HIGH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.

I've had the acccount for 6 and a half years, I've not had duplicate accounts, never used VPN, never used them from a public computer etc. They are unwilling to comment further on what their accusation actually means, but they're keeping the money. Shame, they were one of the first btc sportsbooks, but now appear to be a pure scam operation.

Anonibet confiscation.

thanks dplay. I look into this immediately.
Did you manage to get in touch with them?
PM me your account number. Let me reach out to them one more time. Thanks
member
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Dear member,

Due to the anonymous nature of Anonibet we do not ask for detailed customer information such as ID, contact address etc. from our members. In this respect to protect our betting business and safety of users we monitor traffic to the site closely.

As explained earlier, we have observed high volume of traffic coming through your IP, strangely at a time even when you were not online. We do not and can not know what triggered that traffic, but it is certain that it is coming from your IP.

We have a very strict policy on the issue and do not let any player who violates our security rules. Therefore your membership will be cancelled and your account will stay closed.  We strongly advise not to open a new account with us, as it will be closed and confiscated as well.  

We would also like to remind you that your account had also been under investigation more than once, for your betting patterns and winnings at Anonibet Casino earlier. In cooperation with our casino providers we did not limit or cancel your account at these investigations that time.

Kind regards,

Anonibet Team

My account has been closed and my 0.651 BTC has been confiscated by anonibet for reasons of, brace yourselves: HIGH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.

I've had the acccount for 6 and a half years, I've not had duplicate accounts, never used VPN, never used them from a public computer etc. They are unwilling to comment further on what their accusation actually means, but they're keeping the money. Shame, they were one of the first btc sportsbooks, but now appear to be a pure scam operation.

Anonibet confiscation.

thanks dplay. I look into this immediately.
Did you manage to get in touch with them?
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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We need more reviews for the following books. Please post if you play there:

Not rated.
AceDbets.io
Bet105.eu
Betnomi.com
Bitdice.me
Bitsler.com
legendary
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Cloudbet | Best Bitcoin Gambling Site Since 2013
Hi Peep's,

Cloudbet pulled a serious fast one on me.  They were processing my cashouts and withdrawals, they knew I was a winning bettor and I was up on them.  They waited until I deposited again and they froze my account and gave me a KYC.  I am a US resident but I have been living in mexico during the virus, I sent them in my permanent residence documents bla bla, they said it proves that I was a USA resident and that they are entitled to keep the last deposits/cashout. 

There's more to the story.  I had like $30k in the account at one point during that day and they had mis-graded Benoit Paire retire in 2nd set.  it gave me an extra $3k but I was puzzled but didn' quite realize it was actually a mis-grade, just figured they might have different rules for retires or something weird.  I was confused.  Anyways they froze the account and told me I didn't tell them about the mis-grade so all bets after that would be void which is bullsh**.  So they pull that one on me where they do a mis-grade and then all bets are void if I don't lose.  Then they tell me since I had a USA IP at one point and I have a residence in USA which is my more permanent residence since I don't really have utility bills here in Mexico as I am moving from place to place bla bla bla.

Long story short they just pulled all the angles in the "book" to take my $15,000 67 BCH and I need help to get it back I am trying everything.  Someone offered to start a site too, he was very kind to do that at https://cloudbetscams.com detailing the situation. 

So basically they got me to deposit as a winning account and started pulling a few maneuvers to make sure I didn't leave with the money. 

They are a scamming book finding all the angles to take a winning account's money.  They got me to deposit because they were cashing me out, and they knew they were going to keep my deposits.  I'm really upset for a week now since it happened to put it lightly.  To me this money is life changing, it's a lot and it would change my life, and I deposited it, didn't even win it.  The lifetime of the account i was up at cloudbet but doesn't mean i don't lose it back at other sites.  I needed that money I was on a losing streak and i fired basically the last of my coin and they kept all of it on the last cashout freezing $15,000.

Help.

I can provide more info soon but thought I'd just run down the details.

Hi all,

Cloudbet has made an official statement with regards to allegations made by @efxes. This statement can be found in the Cloudbet Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55334974

Moving forward, all updates regarding this case will be made on this thread.

Thank you for your continued support,

Team Cloudbet
legendary
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Hi all, just wondering what rating Sportsbet.io would get if added to the list. not sure though but i think i didn't see it there

Some one else can chime in but I'm staying away from rating books that accept fiat.
legendary
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@Peeps, bitsler is not in your list? or am i missing something here?

they have been in business for so long already. from whois, bitsler registered last 2015
and as far as i know, one of the reputable sportsboooks here in the forum.

https://www.whois.com/whois/bitsler.com

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Thanks AmoreJaz. Oversight on my part and they'll be added NR at this time. Do you play there or does anyone else? A review from someone would be helpful.

hi Peeps, yeah i play there but only recently as im also part of their campaign here in the forum.

feedback based on my experience:

-they have VIP program, as you progresses as a player, you can increase your level and each level has corresponding rewards (which i believe is a good motivational tool for regular players in their site)
-several alts to choose from (pls see below snapshot), and has internal exchange, which i think is very helpful if you want to withdraw your funds in different currency



-instant withdrawal (even if you pay the low blockchain fee in btc, based from my experience)
-several promotions available such as VIP Program (as earlier mentioned), wager contests, bitsler coins, hourly lottery, referral commission, billion bets event (for silver I and up), multicolor jackpot


Thanks AmoreJaz, great information and experience sharing is what we need in this thread.
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