Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 43. (Read 260310 times)

Hi all, just wondering what rating Sportsbet.io would get if added to the list. not sure though but i think i didn't see it there

hi Peeps, yeah i play there but only recently as im also part of their campaign here in the forum.

feedback based on my experience:

-they have VIP program, as you progresses as a player, you can increase your level and each level has corresponding rewards (which i believe is a good motivational tool for regular players in their site)
-several alts to choose from (pls see below snapshot), and has internal exchange, which i think is very helpful if you want to withdraw your funds in different currency



-instant withdrawal (even if you pay the low blockchain fee in btc, based from my experience)
-several promotions available such as VIP Program (as earlier mentioned), wager contests, bitsler coins, hourly lottery, referral commission, billion bets event (for silver I and up), multicolor jackpot

Hi ralle, I'm probably missing something but does Bitdice still have a sportsbook?

edit: I see it. It shows when you sign up for an account. Do you play there or does anyone else?

Thanks AmoreJaz. Oversight on my part and they'll be added NR at this time. Do you play there or does anyone else? A review from someone would be helpful.

Older casinos are more in demand and have better quality but also many new casinos are being added in the case of tennis day slots of sports books besides football teams also had cricket and hockey teams where there are many famous and expensive players in the world. Not even in hockey along with bitsler the games are returning to their previous places.

Bitsler is an old casino but their sportsbook is new that's why there's no ratings yet. 

In addition to Bitsler, I remember Bitdice is also sportsbook for quite a while now.

Have you tried stake? I've seen high rollers there drop $10k per bet. You might have to reach vip to increase your limits though.

@Peeps, bitsler is not in your list? or am i missing something here?

they have been in business for so long already. from whois, bitsler registered last 2015
and as far as i know, one of the reputable sportsboooks here in the forum.

https://www.whois.com/whois/bitsler.com

Add Betnomi.com to NR. The sportsbook opened Oct. 3, 2020.

Thank you.  These sons of B9FSD9SDF(*S(*D

Cloudet downgraded from "C-" to "D".

Player was living and making plays from Mexico although his permanent residence was in the US. The player was owed approximately $15k USD. Upon a request for a withdrawal, Cloudbet asked for KYC information. The player stated that he was playing from Mexico and produced identification from the US.

Cloudbet was contacted in case they wanted to dispute any of this. Cloudbet did not reply. If a book accepts a bet, they should pay winnings. Cloudbet is downgraded.

I'm still giving Cloudbet a chance to reply. They will be downgraded if they don't reply or they don't have any valid reason for not paying you. As is, I can't see any reason for not paying.

The following will pay you no matter the amount or location.


"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing.
betbtc.co B- (2014)

Welp.  Nitrogensports has finally done it.  They've limited my bet limits to mere pittances.  Cloudbet has stolen my money.

What are your recommended bitcoin books?  I'd rather not send in my personal documents to any more scamming ass sites like Cloudbet. 

Let me know...  I STILL do not understand how to use Fairlay lol.  it seems hard to find bets, it makes little sense to me.  I also like live betting on tennis but I'd rather not get stolen from again because the book doesn't want to take my live tennis bets and other live bets.

thanks. anything you can do.  I'm submitting more documents, I just need to get paid.  It's really not good for my health to say the least. 

Thanks for the post efxes. I'll contact Cloudbet.

Efxes just posted this and I thought I should share it here:

They stole $15,000 from me in bitcoin. They have done it to countless other people. They are constantly stealing from people and not paying them. The only way they pay is if you find a way to prevent people from depositing and things. They are truly a virus on the community. There are tons of people talking about how they just confiscated $15,000 of my deposits with vague TOS rules, and we are just bumping their thread further and many people are just seeing Cloudbet advertised and not following what is going on.

You guys should see all of the scams in the past the site has been dealing with. They owe me $15,000 and countless others. You can follow my scam accusation thread here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5277995

You can also see a list of about 30 scam threads started from different people over the years here:


I just went in their discord chat and there was another message from the chat who said they rolled him for 2 BTC ($20,000) and they aren’t paying him back either.

I know how the place operates. They offer an extremely wide selection of odds to anonymous users who use only crypto-currency- this leaves their sportsbook extremely vulnerable to any sharp action or syndicate bettors who can take advantage of obscure betting lines and matches. Then when they begin to get hit, they find ways to just ban any winning bettor and confiscate the money.

They confiscate the money not only to profit themselves and put it back into marketing budget to get losing gamblers, but they also want to break any winning bettor so that they don’t come back and make a new account and continue to gamble with them.

Instead of Cloudbet using this model and scamming people left and right, how about they just offer less betting lines and higher juice and not be an entirely thieving corporation?

Also their username has begun to get serious amounts of flags and some negative trust rating, and I hope it continues and they are completely banned from the site and their thread taken down. See their profile here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cloudbet-154563

They have a legendary account and guess what, positive trust ratings mostly due to influencer marketing and signature campaigns. They are bringing in new suckers to steal money from. If they don’t win it by gambling losses, they take the money by force. Any long term winner on the site will get KYC’d and served some sort of TOS to keep the funds, or they’ll just hold it indefinitely and not even respond. I’ve seen it all.

Can we get rid of this thieving site? How about you return my money first, Cloudbet? Again, see the scam accusation thread and decide for yourself if these people should still have a place on bitcointalk as a legendary person. I don’t think so. I will ask others who know about what is going on to weigh in on this thread and I hope you do keep it up. We need to clean up these scammers from the crypto community- they are obviously rampant with what they can get away with being anonymous.

Again they need to change their business model so that they don’t need to scam people in order to survive as a casino.

They want to take $15,000 from me, out of my deposits and say since I am a winning account they can do that #1 and #2 they are saying that because I logged in from a USA IP and have a permanent residence in USA that I could not have been gambling on their account for 3 months from Mexico where I have been staying during the pandemic since I am out of work. I need the funds for my day to day life, they were processing tons of deposits and cashouts. See here all my deposits to the site.

Here are all of the deposits I had made to the site in the last days.
2020-09-20 02:03
-62.870026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2b5e75e192cdb526bdd9d2b533e7d2831a7c1b396dabb7c140d0d6d7f56f11ff

2020-09-20 03:42
-30.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/01e511b44f7764c5c0777d5e05bb0a0469735dac1986f7e1c7ce88a329165804

2020-09-20 03:42
-40.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/e65e1d247510d1b3eadfd9b60e60e684317aef3d05c89bcea63899e56f65e70f

2020-09-20 04:35
-25.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/b9ff51ded44267f6cb791115c22f6efd3e6601f74883c8c659b1a27e005f2a63

2020-09-21 04:06
-17.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4aba5056b29de5c859fbee68cd4d97cc0c62f0fe9569e7e919d82eda414b5db8

2020-09-21 04:46
-13.500043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2e41abd57b82f45f79bd2f53ad54351c95bd31572fb4a6a5ae3cf2b7109069a7

2020-09-21 04:46
-7.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/a75034c751b2237dedcd1ce9e83f8e36c159ad7b46e54b2f428c46af42a3b412

2020-09-21 06:46
-20.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/ef102b75b7d0203ab30d59220884f4e434a13708b338aa58f55d44a5cdf958bf

2020-09-21 08:21
-10.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/5eaff8faf8d150b90401064fe08e6e2fbf57c9165c4293133c641121d999df3c

2020-09-21 08:23
-5.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/d7464120ea42e93516bd69b9480198602408f66002ff642340a5741b2bf8fda4

2020-09-21 09:11
-16.00004247: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/c68f163c2e0c96e1ee88ab16e6f4027de708a9c3a3c938a0c3630b652b5173ef

2020-09-22 00:19
-40.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/95500ca4c75f1fccdfa8f7be857e0cb970ab65452a2d5652bedaeb0025b5a18e

2020-09-22 03:16
-30.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/f275fba7618cb81e1703abc6db23ef861ef8ddb76ae43bd398bb0a27f241340b

2020-09-22 08:32
-8.380026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/d33c583f3657e815293faa3c941ef334e36265b9425ed29480d3662d2fc40408

THE FINAL DEPOSITS:

2020-09-23 04:47
-24.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/0aa77c3a5bc46f9dcd68f5cc5a8b3bc0022a489e6cb52169ec2f068d6200ac5c

2020-09-23 06:29
-20.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4a38b8c78869faac477e7599e3203c35aeb45df952bc47d0913668434f432a83

2020-09-23 07:36
-16.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2e7d94c62df064ca773b1d5f070bd66fa9f8e6dd43ecc3561f8eb8f3b9a054b1

2020-09-23 11:25
-3.000043: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/acd56954dbd14b667ee8ee75c4ea15cf2657af95c700fcd458d5bace3f63f8aa

2020-09-23 11:25
-11.000026: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/b18dc22fcc787e1bbcc36d9137b4debbdb8e923dcf52dcce9bb10eee1f5763d3

FINAL CASHOUT REQUEST was around 67 BCH. Some other cashouts had been processed along the way without freezing the account yet.

I trusted them with tons of money and they waited until I deposited a lot of funds until they scammed me and took all the money. They also pulled an even worse move- they mis-graded a wager, the winning total was about $3,000. But my account balance at the time was about $30,000. I didn’t notice the mis-grade, and they were telling me that since there was a mis-grade, ALL the bets I made after that should be voided because I didn’t let them know personally and was playing with their funds. it was 10% of my account balance and I had no idea. It was a retire in a 2nd set and some books have different rules so I wouldn’t know.

If they don’t change they need to go. Where is the $15k Cloudbet.

-Efxes

Hi Peep's,

Cloudbet pulled a serious fast one on me.  They were processing my cashouts and withdrawals, they knew I was a winning bettor and I was up on them.  They waited until I deposited again and they froze my account and gave me a KYC.  I am a US resident but I have been living in mexico during the virus, I sent them in my permanent residence documents bla bla, they said it proves that I was a USA resident and that they are entitled to keep the last deposits/cashout. 

There's more to the story.  I had like $30k in the account at one point during that day and they had mis-graded Benoit Paire retire in 2nd set.  it gave me an extra $3k but I was puzzled but didn' quite realize it was actually a mis-grade, just figured they might have different rules for retires or something weird.  I was confused.  Anyways they froze the account and told me I didn't tell them about the mis-grade so all bets after that would be void which is bullsh**.  So they pull that one on me where they do a mis-grade and then all bets are void if I don't lose.  Then they tell me since I had a USA IP at one point and I have a residence in USA which is my more permanent residence since I don't really have utility bills here in Mexico as I am moving from place to place bla bla bla.

Long story short they just pulled all the angles in the "book" to take my $15,000 67 BCH and I need help to get it back I am trying everything.  Someone offered to start a site too, he was very kind to do that at https://cloudbetscams.com detailing the situation. 

So basically they got me to deposit as a winning account and started pulling a few maneuvers to make sure I didn't leave with the money. 

They are a scamming book finding all the angles to take a winning account's money.  They got me to deposit because they were cashing me out, and they knew they were going to keep my deposits.  I'm really upset for a week now since it happened to put it lightly.  To me this money is life changing, it's a lot and it would change my life, and I deposited it, didn't even win it.  The lifetime of the account i was up at cloudbet but doesn't mean i don't lose it back at other sites.  I needed that money I was on a losing streak and i fired basically the last of my coin and they kept all of it on the last cashout freezing $15,000.

Help.

I can provide more info soon but thought I'd just run down the details.

Left them off since they accept fiat.

Any ratings for buff.bet?

Hi tokeweed, it is a great idea but may not be the best idea for this thread. It puts me in a no win situation. I'll think about it some more and will definitely get back to you if I have a change of heart.

Hey Peeps Place..  How about a 'cash out complaints' service for the BCT gambling community like how SBR does it.  I'd be glad to help out.