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legendary
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April 30, 2014, 05:28:34 PM
#51
31.12.2014 more than     $350/BTC
31.12.2015 more than  $1,925/BTC
31.12.2016 more than $10,587/BTC


These are pretty specific numbers.   Did you draw them off of any calculations, or did you just throw out a number?

- There is 99,999% probability than bitcoin will rise 550% per/year (next few years) ... based on the past,  bitcoin price was $60 in 2013, $12 in 2012  and $2 in 2011 ... )
- BUY & HOLD as much as you can afford to lose (just in case 0,001% bitcoin can fail), and you will be very rich man :-)  (ods are 100,000 : 1 )
agf
member
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April 29, 2014, 04:17:40 AM
#50
$10.001.001 2 years
$111.222.333 in 4 years
high profile. buy buy buy
newbie
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Merit: 0
April 29, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
#49
I guess its all guestimates.
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
April 28, 2014, 06:49:13 PM
#48
What's the basis for such a calculation?

That is what I am asking.  I am curious as to what led him to the above estimates/times
newbie
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April 28, 2014, 06:42:05 PM
#47
What's the basis for such a calculation?
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
April 28, 2014, 06:36:05 PM
#46
31.12.2014 more than     $350/BTC
31.12.2015 more than  $1,925/BTC
31.12.2016 more than $10,587/BTC


These are pretty specific numbers.   Did you draw them off of any calculations, or did you just throw out a number?
legendary
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April 28, 2014, 05:43:09 PM
#45
31.12.2014 more than     $350/BTC
31.12.2015 more than  $1,925/BTC
31.12.2016 more than $10,587/BTC
member
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April 28, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
#44
At first I think 3 years is not a long time, but then I remember that bitcoin is only around 5 years old (I believe), then 3 years sounds like a lot. My best guess is that it'll hit 10k within 5 years. I give it a 50-60% chance of hitting 10k within 3 years and 85% chance of hitting 10k within 5 years.
sr. member
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April 28, 2014, 03:32:05 PM
#43
Since the price is currently $440 this represents a 22.72 x return over 3 years or approx. 283% per annum.
This tells me the market thinks there is a very very small chance of this event occurring - if it was probable the price would be a lot higher already.


I think not.

Next rise is just around the corner, and it will hit 5k or more.

I'm thinking it will be around this too.  I have a hard time thinking that if it goes up again (in a similar fashion to all of the other violent increases before) it's going to blow past the old ATH, and $2,000 on it's way to somewhere in that $3k-5k range.  Lots more eyes on BTC this year than there were last year.

There are around 400M $ already announced entering this year in the Bitcoin space.
There are a lot more, IMO, not announced yet entering the space.

More business accept or use them, more people have incentives to use, hold and buy bitcoins.

The only problem, for now, it is the current inflation rate of bitcoin: it is just 5% higher than the inflation rate of the $US.

This problem will solve itself around July 2016.


legendary
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April 28, 2014, 03:04:36 PM
#42
about 20%

3 years is not much, and I doubt it can go so high with pure speculation. I mean it must be super easy to convert to BTC (like at every ATM) or much more people need to get paid in BTC.

I would tend to agree with this assessment.   You have to remember that a huge percentage of people were confident that it would hit $10,000 in 2014.   While there is still a very very slim possibility that it does actually happen in 2014, it is very unlikely at this point IMO.   
hero member
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April 28, 2014, 02:38:30 PM
#41
Since the price is currently $440 this represents a 22.72 x return over 3 years or approx. 283% per annum.
This tells me the market thinks there is a very very small chance of this event occurring - if it was probable the price would be a lot higher already.


I think not.

Next rise is just around the corner, and it will hit 5k or more.

I'm thinking it will be around this too.  I have a hard time thinking that if it goes up again (in a similar fashion to all of the other violent increases before) it's going to blow past the old ATH, and $2,000 on it's way to somewhere in that $3k-5k range.  Lots more eyes on BTC this year than there were last year.
sr. member
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April 28, 2014, 10:45:11 AM
#40
And this is the problem with most people in Bitcoin. They don't see it from what it was designed to do - become the primary payment system used around the world. Instead we compare it to fiat as a measure of its value and become hyped up about it as the price increases. Basically it means systemically people are focused on making a quick buck rather than actually seeing this as a means of moving forward.

I think that this is one of the things that hurts bitcoin the most. untill people stop using bitcoin as an investment and more as a currency. i diont think we will see 10,000 eiter. to be honest im suprised we seen 1000 too but everyday it is becomming more used.
full member
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April 28, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
#39
Just passing the time while waiting on some bitcoin movement  Grin In percentage terms, what do you think the probability is of BTC hitting $10K in the next 3 years?

All btc need is fiat investments (usd, eur, cny)

To be interested in fiat investments btc has to be stable, and secure and accepted by merchants ... nothing more nothing less, when those 3 basic criterias will be met, btc may go up

And if btc will be supported by governments, then price will go up more Wink
newbie
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April 28, 2014, 10:28:10 AM
#38
Since the price is currently $440 this represents a 22.72 x return over 3 years or approx. 283% per annum.
This tells me the market thinks there is a very very small chance of this event occurring - if it was probable the price would be a lot higher already.


I think not.

Next rise is just around the corner, and it will hit 5k or more.
hero member
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Merit: 502
April 28, 2014, 09:57:28 AM
#37
Since the price is currently $440 this represents a 22.72 x return over 3 years or approx. 283% per annum.
This tells me the market thinks there is a very very small chance of this event occurring - if it was probable the price would be a lot higher already.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 28, 2014, 09:27:10 AM
#36
If you believe that there is a 20% chance or more of Bitcoin being worth $10,000 within three years time, then I recommend that you sell everything you own, including your house, and put all of the money into Bitcoin, right now.
The current price is about $500, so $10,000 represents a 20 fold increase. If you think you have a one in five (20%) chance of achieving that (and let's say the only other outcome is Bitcoin = zero), then your expected profit is at least five-fold, over three years. That is an annualised (probability weighted) performance of 82%.

Losing all of your assets would be bad, but you can always rebuild. But missing out on an annualised, prob weighted performance of over 82% is a once-in-a-life-time opportunity.
This is not time to think about 'what you can afford to lose'. You can afford to lose everything, you can always beg on the street. But you cannot afford to miss this.

Personally, I do not believe that the chance is 20%. I think the chance is only about 0.1%. Bitcoin of $10,000 creates too much incentive for someone to come up with an alternative, superior, cryptocurrency that is better able to assist international transactions.



Put all of my wealth into a 20% chance.. AMAZING advice just amazing.....................

All of my no.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 28, 2014, 09:23:47 AM
#35
If you believe that there is a 20% chance or more of Bitcoin being worth $10,000 within three years time, then I recommend that you sell everything you own, including your house, and put all of the money into Bitcoin, right now.
The current price is about $500, so $10,000 represents a 20 fold increase. If you think you have a one in five (20%) chance of achieving that (and let's say the only other outcome is Bitcoin = zero), then your expected profit is at least five-fold, over three years. That is an annualised (probability weighted) performance of 82%.

Losing all of your assets would be bad, but you can always rebuild. But missing out on an annualised, prob weighted performance of over 82% is a once-in-a-life-time opportunity.
This is not time to think about 'what you can afford to lose'. You can afford to lose everything, you can always beg on the street. But you cannot afford to miss this.

Personally, I do not believe that the chance is 20%. I think the chance is only about 0.1%. Bitcoin of $10,000 creates too much incentive for someone to come up with an alternative, superior, cryptocurrency that is better able to assist international transactions.



I believe even at 500, people are trying to come up with new cryptos (facebucks, ethereum maidsafe etc). Bitcoin is 6 billion (market cap).  The strongest network (computational power) and has a somewhat developed infrastructure. 
For a new crypto to overtake, it needs to take a few years to develop (or perhaps its in the making like if its dogecoin or something (LOL @dogecoin overtaking btc  Grin)

A new crypto may come, but I think it would take time and resouces to overtake (unless immediate flaw in btc protocol or a team of superior devs only go into another alt)

Nxt is building and developing like hell right now. We don't see this much development in Bitcoin right now. Today Nxt is at v1.0.0. Cheesy

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-blockchain-platform-proof-of-stake-official-587007
sr. member
Activity: 445
Merit: 251
April 28, 2014, 09:22:47 AM
#34
Bitcoins tredline is a growth of about 10x every year. 3 years then would have the price increase 1000x (if it continues on the trendline). Now I personally think that when it gets to high prices the growth will slow, but $10,000 is not that high (a capital injection of even a few billion dollars could spur a new bubble and send us there w/ ease), but after $10,000-20,000 or so I could see growth slowing

$10,000 in the next 3 years? VERY VERY FUCKING LIKELY (statistically, easily over 95%)


+1
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
April 28, 2014, 08:43:24 AM
#33
I have a perpetual motion device but it is not for sale. The output is also very small, otherwise I'd use it to power my bitcoin miners.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
April 28, 2014, 08:05:21 AM
#32
If you believe that there is a 20% chance or more of Bitcoin being worth $10,000 within three years time, then I recommend that you sell everything you own, including your house, and put all of the money into Bitcoin, right now.
The current price is about $500, so $10,000 represents a 20 fold increase. If you think you have a one in five (20%) chance of achieving that (and let's say the only other outcome is Bitcoin = zero), then your expected profit is at least five-fold, over three years. That is an annualised (probability weighted) performance of 82%.

Losing all of your assets would be bad, but you can always rebuild. But missing out on an annualised, prob weighted performance of over 82% is a once-in-a-life-time opportunity.
This is not time to think about 'what you can afford to lose'. You can afford to lose everything, you can always beg on the street. But you cannot afford to miss this.

Personally, I do not believe that the chance is 20%. I think the chance is only about 0.1%. Bitcoin of $10,000 creates too much incentive for someone to come up with an alternative, superior, cryptocurrency that is better able to assist international transactions.



I believe even at 500, people are trying to come up with new cryptos (facebucks, ethereum maidsafe etc). Bitcoin is 6 billion (market cap).  The strongest network (computational power) and has a somewhat developed infrastructure. 
For a new crypto to overtake, it needs to take a few years to develop (or perhaps its in the making like if its dogecoin or something (LOL @dogecoin overtaking btc  Grin)

A new crypto may come, but I think it would take time and resouces to overtake (unless immediate flaw in btc protocol or a team of superior devs only go into another alt)

Yes there certainly is incentive. There's also incentive to realize energy efficient cold fusion, a Dyson sphere  and perpetuum mobile devices but none of these have been realized. You know why? Because it's very difficult (the first 2) or outright impossible (the latter). Economical incentive is not all that stands between something being realized or not.
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