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Topic: 12 years ago this man was accused to be Satoshi - page 2. (Read 550 times)

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I'm not also not familiar with the name, maybe in crypto or any other secure communications protocol or cryptography.

But in any case, yes, this man knows whats coming if he pretend to be Satoshi, just like what infamous CW is trying to portray when everyone around here knows that he is not Satoshi. So kudos to this guy for coming out in public and clearing his name and it is the right decision indeed. And for sure, Satoshi will no longer reappear but his invention will remain with us.
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Michael Clear just clearly demolished Craig Wright who is fighting everyone and using his wealth just for the world to accept that he is the guy we are looking for. Michael Clear is very "clear" on this aspect: he is not Satoshi Nakamoto and he is not planning to use this opportunity to be known anywhere and give up his privacy which am sure he is valuing a lot. Maybe Craig should be taking the cue from Michael...because while Craig is very "Wrong" here we can see another man is very "Clear"...and that is amazing.
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He have did the rightful and now if he looks back he once again feels happy on his decision. If he have accepted himself to be Satoshi, now more and more questions could've arisen towards him. Moreover governments would've started to watch him. A freaky cryptographer, and identity of Satoshi won't gets revealed forever. Quite often we can see some people claiming themselves as Satoshi, among few good ones like Micheal who denies they aren't real Satoshi.
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I never heard of this guy, it might be suspected because of his work as a cryptographer.
If there's deserving to be called Satoshi, I rather called Hal Finney a Satoshi because in the first place they had an interaction before and I doubt that's one of the members who created Bitcoin (because I doubt Satoshi is not one person).

He doesn't look like a tech guy who can code but a member of a rock band.
Quite true, but in fact, he is a cryptographer  Grin
At the first glance, he is really a coder.
Long hair and wears eyeglasses that look very busy his entire life being a coder.
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He is wise and honest enough by denying that he is not Satoshi. He should have his own reasons why he denied it because he is not Satoshi is the truth. By denying it, he may be calmer in life. We know that Satoshi is one of the most hunted people in the world, the person who has always been searched for. the man that invented Bitcoin. With the name, the person may hold very big pressure, and accusations, and also probably many parties will accuse, give probelms, and also probably be jail. That is why denying is a good decision.

He doesn't look like a tech guy who can code but a member of a rock band.
Quite true, but in fact, he is a cryptographer  Grin
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Never really saw a thread about him being Satoshi despite me being in crypto for more than 5 years.

He doesn't look like a tech guy who can code but a member of a rock band. But he advocates privacy of course he will decline just as the real Satoshi would. There is nothing worth keeping for someone who has everything but privacy. You wouldn't want to live like the actors and actresses who keep hiding from the public and can't even go to a park to walk their dogs.




Even myself, this is my first time on knowing for a certain guy accused to be Satoshi but totally had been denied.Its totally opposite on what we are seeing on newer years that lots had been fighting on getting that

Satoshi Nakamoto spot or title.People are different when it comes to fame which either there are ones who do really loves to be famous and there are ones who do love to be alone.Considering the general essence of

Bitcoin then we could really tell that Satoshi itself wont really be tending to expose himself into the public.If he had the intentions on the first place then he had already done that
earlier.
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Ever since I found out about bitcoin, this is honestly the first time I've heard of Michael Clear being accused of being a satoshi and I've only just seen his image. There are many names I've heard that might also be referred to as satoshi, such as; Hal Finney, Dorian Nakamoto, Craig Wright, but everyone can't prove it.

However, what Michael Clear does must of course get a good response from the community so he doesn't have to prove anything to the community. A person who claims to be a satoshi is much more likely not to be a satoshi, but otherwise a satoshi would not claim to be a satoshi so easily.

For the three names of the people you mentioned I have seen them in various news articles, but all of them are just for entertainment. Michael Clear may be the best here, but I'm still inclined to be unsure if he's really Satoshi. Apart from that, I don't really care who Satoshi Nakamoto is, I'd rather not know his real face. Most importantly he has helped us to make it easy and safe to transact quickly using bitcoin.
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Ever since I found out about bitcoin, this is honestly the first time I've heard of Michael Clear being accused of being a satoshi and I've only just seen his image. There are many names I've heard that might also be referred to as satoshi, such as; Hal Finney, Dorian Nakamoto, Craig Wright, but everyone can't prove it.

However, what Michael Clear does must of course get a good response from the community so he doesn't have to prove anything to the community. A person who claims to be a satoshi is much more likely not to be a satoshi, but otherwise a satoshi would not claim to be a satoshi so easily.
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a bad fellow would have used the opportunity to execute illicit operation on bitcoin and extorting funds from those that sent him mails.
A bad person that many people believe to be the bitcoin creator can probably deceive people and extort money from them, heck people send funds to dummy/scam celebrity accounts to double their bitcoin for them, not to talk of an account or a person they think is Satoshi, you are correct on this that he may extort funds from people.

But what the person cannot do is perform any illicit operation on the bitcoin protocol, even satoshi himself cannot successfully do that because bitcoin is not under his control, any illicit operation will be rejected by miners/nodes, that is why decentralization makes bitcoin very unique and safe.
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Yea, I remember the stress Dorian Nakamoto had to go through almost 8 years ago trying to let the public know that he is not Satoshi. But the question that begs for an answer is what is the probability that the real Nakamoto Satoshi would gladly accept that he is the founder of BTC if ever there was a claim? The real Nakamoto Satoshi  just doesn't want publicity and wants to live a normal life. Imagine the publicity and disruption to his life if he revealed his identity. Imagine him getting interviewed all the time being asked about the price, being at risk of being robbed, and might even be sued for some dumb reasons.
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WOULD YOU DECLINE SUCH AN ACCUSATION? Grin

Of course, i will decline. I am not qualified to be at that spot to be called Satoshi or a lair to introduce myself as someone i am not. I prefer myself to be an introvert. So my room is my world. I don't want to go out or earn public fame to ruin my world. I am happy as who i am right now.

By the way, Maybe Satoshi himself is reading this. Then here's what i have to say to him - You have paved the path, and we will walk on that to make your dream come true. We support you through every ups and downs.
You are a legend, man.
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I even just heard the name Michael Clear which was previously only filled by the name Craig Wright as a person who claims to be the creator of Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto, even proclaims himself and opposes anyone who doubts him. But unlike Michael Clear, he is a real man who doesn't want to confess despite being called a satoshi and that is the right and wise choice.

For the latest news, Craig Wright, according to several sources, his life has become more difficult because he has proclaimed himself the creator of bitcoin and a number of technology giant companies have made several lawsuits against him.

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Never really saw a thread about him being Satoshi despite me being in crypto for more than 5 years.

He doesn't look like a tech guy who can code but a member of a rock band. But he advocates privacy of course he will decline just as the real Satoshi would. There is nothing worth keeping for someone who has everything but privacy. You wouldn't want to live like the actors and actresses who keep hiding from the public and can't even go to a park to walk their dogs.




That's what I thought when I saw his face, too, lol!
Anyhow, a lot of random guys have already claimed that he is Satoshi, but nobody has been able to show proof of this as of yet. I believe we should keep Satoshi's identity a secret since he did an excellent job of creating Bitcoin, and I'm sure he is happy, from wherever he is, that Bitcoin has come a long way to achieve its current status.

haha me too, when i first saw the photo i thought instead he was just a rock singer who finished a gig, far for Satoshi to say,
and in my mind a Satoshi is a person who comes from Japan with a cute face,
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WOULD YOU DECLINE SUCH AN ACCUSATION? Grin
I would decline because there's no point in pretending, they will eventually catch your lies and you don't really want to be in that situation because your life will turn upside down as fast as you've made it when you didn't decline the accusation. Imagine this, would you be annoyed when people talk to you about the stuff that someone did? If yes then you would get why it's best if you decline the accusation outright.
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Never heard of this guy but I've seen some other names that have been accused for being satoshi and has some good proof of connection why they're accused as satoshi himself.

Well, as this guy has declined of the accusation, he should actually decline it and there's no strong evidence that can prove that it's him. While some other guy we knew that's trying to prove himself and claiming that he's satoshi, only him calls and admits that he is.

I'm sure that all of you guys are aware of this guy and spending a lot of money in court for this claim.  Grin
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A cryptographer named Michael Clear declined the wonderful offer, after he was said to be Satoshi. Accepting the false claim would have made him famous till date but he made the right choice

It couldn't because we know the exact and prompt means to identify the real Satoshi, if he could sign a message or not is one of the best m ways and moreso, why should he accepts or claim what he's not, that should be impersonating enough and a thing of big shame on his reputation provided that he's reasonable enough to realise the fact, Craig among many others were also struggling on this self proclamation to be Satoshi.

Hence, someone is in court paying lots of money to lawyers claiming to be Satoshi, what an Irony. I think the people decides who is Satoshi then its left for the person to accept or decline like Michael Clear a good man - a bad fellow would have used the opportunity to execute illicit operation on bitcoin and extorting funds from those that sent him mails.

This is what their type want, money, recognition and power, they are the types that like to claim on other's people efforts and works as theirs, everything they know how to do is plagiarism and still yet they don't want to aggree to the fact that what they are doing is wrong.

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The New Yorker’s author Joshua Davis then asked Clear again whether he was Satoshi Nakamoto. “I’m not Satoshi,” Clear responded. “But even if I was I wouldn’t tell you.”

source:
https://news.bitcoin.com/pinning-the-tail-on-satoshi-nakamoto-how-journalists-erroneously-used-circumstantial-evidence-over-the-years-to-identify-bitcoins-creator/

When you want to understand this thread, I recommend you to read that article  Smiley
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/10/10/the-crypto-currency
10/Oct/2011
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WOULD YOU DECLINE SUCH AN ACCUSATION? Grin

I don't know who is this guy, like many others I've never heard of him.
But yes, I would decline such accusation. And the reasons are many:
1. Since I know I cannot prove it cryptographically that I am Satoshi, I would be just another Faketoshi.
2. I guess that many reporter and madman would be looking me up, disturbing me and my family with good and bad, including hate.
3. If I would become somewhat convincing that I could be Satoshi, some may want me dead or come for my alleged money.
4. A convincing enough Satoshi could do very bad to Bitcoin (as price and also as community and development).

So why bother? It cannot do anything good neither to me, nor to Bitcoin itself.


PS. If Satoshi is alive and well, I am sure he thinks the same (of course, excepting point 1), no matter how much noise some try to do in order to make him step forward.
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WOULD YOU DECLINE SUCH AN ACCUSATION? Grin

Well! you can't be far from getting arrested once the truth will come out and that's the worst-case scenario after getting some praise from the people which will gonna turn into humiliation once they know you are a crook. Also, the money that you will get from those people will be the same money you will be paying for the fines and that would not be enough and you will end up taking some loans just to pay the damages of what you have done to yourself claiming to be a person you never been was.
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You have to be a special kind of narcissist to claim that you are Satoshi Nakamoto, if you are not him/her or them.  Roll Eyes  Only a ego maniac like CW will attempt to claim that title and I hope it backfire on him.  Wink

I hope IF he succeeds... that the authorities will go down on him like a pack of wolves and that they will show him what the governments will do to people, when they challenge their authority/monopoly. (They are waiting for a centralized figure head to recieve that title, because they can only start with their revenge...when it is official)
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