Firstly no one has a crystal ball.
If this guy is so great at making trading calls he would be a very rich man and would not need your funds, it is very easy to gamble with others money.
If he agreed to to refund your money then he should honour it but you not following his advice to the word is a bit of a get out clause.
There is no such thing as a risk free investment so if this guy is offering refunds if you make a loss he's as much of an idiot as you are for falling for this shit.
p.s. in your pm to me you state you are a student so you should have the intelligence to know better.
A harsh summary but all true
Topic: [1.3+BTC SCAM] Mastertrader777 / Toshi Desk trying to bury the truth. - page 3. (Read 12821 times)
October 17, 2016, 11:44:30 AM
October 17, 2016, 06:52:05 AM
What happened:
I've known MasterTrader777 for over 3 months now, on the basis of him convincing me into trying out his trading group in which he gives out trading calls, for .77 a week.
I have agreed to join but under terms that if I do NOT make my money back from his calls within the week membership, he will provide me a refund, so I do not come out on a loss, he has agreed to the terms. I have paid him on the 10th of Sept.
Firstly, he told me to long the top of XMR at 0.01935, which fell down to 0.015 after a week+. But Throughout the week he told me to cost average down, which is what I was doing, I was telling him how much and at what prices i was cost averaging down, which he agreed at, I did buy 20-30xmr by mistake, since he told me XMR has good bullish signs.
At the end of the first week I was down by -.5, since if fell down by so much.. However, he told me to baghold and cost average as it will go back up, i did as instructed and sold back at .0185 for a small profit..
Since I didnt make my money back, I wanted him to give me a refund but i gave it another chance. He then told me to to rebuy into XMR at 0.0174, I have followed his instructions to cost average down, we did that till 0.013, at which point I have given up and sold everything, since I was on a .5 loss once again, only thing this time the price had no chance of going back up so I am stuck with the loss.
However, what makes it a even worse situation is that he is even refusing to give me a refund, for a very peculiar reason, unlike what we have agreed before going through with the deal.
The reasons are that apparently It was my fault because i made the mistake buy due to not listening to his instructions, firstly that was one small occurrence which didn't happen again, you kept telling me the price will go up at that time when i made that buy, and I have sold the XMR which I have bought at that price. Anyhow, it wouldn't have changed the outcome or the terms which we've agreed to, since, based on the calls he gave me i lost money.
I had to close the XMR trade at 0.0125-0.013 since i had notice it barely had any support and take a loss of -0.5. Total loss at almost -1.3BTC including the membership fee.
All I ask is that he acts according to our agreement and compensates me.
Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mastertrader777-423115
Payment Method: Bitcoin
Total loss: BTC1.3
Proof of Payment:
https://blockchain.info/tx/b46fd351a3e84a2d59f229edc483d1db8db43c75cf20ca632ae02928e0a25b1f
http://i.imgur.com/q0J23PM.png
PM/Chat Logs:
http://i.imgur.com/xi5HXID.png
http://i.imgur.com/Zge0XVk.png
http://i.imgur.com/GYyAcvz.png
http://i.imgur.com/TcubpNF.png
http://i.imgur.com/lS97JGy.png
http://i.imgur.com/NgyFwCe.png
http://i.imgur.com/YknyznR.png
http://i.imgur.com/RsKXAOA.png
http://i.imgur.com/k2hvO83.png
Raw: http://pastebin.com/BbYwfgkc
His skype: http://i.imgur.com/nGAZrCI.png
Additional Notes: Chat records are legally binding agreements, you cannot change them how you like, that's like saying it makes sense for a shop to charge you extra money for a previous purchase you've already agreed to the terms of. I hope we can cooperate and solve this issue.
I've known MasterTrader777 for over 3 months now, on the basis of him convincing me into trying out his trading group in which he gives out trading calls, for .77 a week.
I have agreed to join but under terms that if I do NOT make my money back from his calls within the week membership, he will provide me a refund, so I do not come out on a loss, he has agreed to the terms. I have paid him on the 10th of Sept.
Firstly, he told me to long the top of XMR at 0.01935, which fell down to 0.015 after a week+. But Throughout the week he told me to cost average down, which is what I was doing, I was telling him how much and at what prices i was cost averaging down, which he agreed at, I did buy 20-30xmr by mistake, since he told me XMR has good bullish signs.
At the end of the first week I was down by -.5, since if fell down by so much.. However, he told me to baghold and cost average as it will go back up, i did as instructed and sold back at .0185 for a small profit..
Since I didnt make my money back, I wanted him to give me a refund but i gave it another chance. He then told me to to rebuy into XMR at 0.0174, I have followed his instructions to cost average down, we did that till 0.013, at which point I have given up and sold everything, since I was on a .5 loss once again, only thing this time the price had no chance of going back up so I am stuck with the loss.
However, what makes it a even worse situation is that he is even refusing to give me a refund, for a very peculiar reason, unlike what we have agreed before going through with the deal.
The reasons are that apparently It was my fault because i made the mistake buy due to not listening to his instructions, firstly that was one small occurrence which didn't happen again, you kept telling me the price will go up at that time when i made that buy, and I have sold the XMR which I have bought at that price. Anyhow, it wouldn't have changed the outcome or the terms which we've agreed to, since, based on the calls he gave me i lost money.
I had to close the XMR trade at 0.0125-0.013 since i had notice it barely had any support and take a loss of -0.5. Total loss at almost -1.3BTC including the membership fee.
All I ask is that he acts according to our agreement and compensates me.
Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mastertrader777-423115
Payment Method: Bitcoin
Total loss: BTC1.3
Proof of Payment:
https://blockchain.info/tx/b46fd351a3e84a2d59f229edc483d1db8db43c75cf20ca632ae02928e0a25b1f
http://i.imgur.com/q0J23PM.png
PM/Chat Logs:
http://i.imgur.com/xi5HXID.png
http://i.imgur.com/Zge0XVk.png
http://i.imgur.com/GYyAcvz.png
http://i.imgur.com/TcubpNF.png
http://i.imgur.com/lS97JGy.png
http://i.imgur.com/NgyFwCe.png
http://i.imgur.com/YknyznR.png
http://i.imgur.com/RsKXAOA.png
http://i.imgur.com/k2hvO83.png
Raw: http://pastebin.com/BbYwfgkc
His skype: http://i.imgur.com/nGAZrCI.png
Additional Notes: Chat records are legally binding agreements, you cannot change them how you like, that's like saying it makes sense for a shop to charge you extra money for a previous purchase you've already agreed to the terms of. I hope we can cooperate and solve this issue.
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