It is not an easy password. The address is not changed in the control panel. Beside the adress they should have guess also the PIN.
I believe it is a bug in the automated payment module.
Topic: [1423GH] ABCPool PPS - Proxy Pool For High & Steady Mining Rewards - page 49. (Read 151860 times)
November 03, 2011, 09:04:36 PM
November 03, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
It is the address with which I registered and it is the actual address from the control panel. I did not change anything. They sent the payment to the wrong address.
Looks like someone got access to your account and changed your wallet address. Do you have a weak password ? or does this have to do with teh fact that ABC does not have https setup and someone just packaet sniffed all they needed..... ?Look in your control panel and see what the address is now, as your default. Did they change it back to your old one ?
November 03, 2011, 08:59:56 PM
It is the address with which I registered and it is the actual address from the control panel. I did not change anything. They sent the payment to the wrong address.
November 03, 2011, 08:57:22 PM
Hello there,
There is a problem with the automatic payment.
I had an automatic payment of 25 bitcoins which went to a different address which is not mine.
Please advise!
Did they (the BTC) go to the address in your control panel ?There is a problem with the automatic payment.
I had an automatic payment of 25 bitcoins which went to a different address which is not mine.
Please advise!
Anyways, consider them LOST FOREVER.....that's a sad fact about Bitcoin.
Why would you do a 25 BTC tranfer on an untested setup ? I always go a .5 BTC or less as my first transfer from a pool to ensure that it gets to where it needs to go, before I wait and transfer larger amounts.
Sorry about your luck......that is, if you ended up sending it to the wrong address.
If you had the correct address in your control panel and it was the Pool's fault, I would expect a 100% refund or some sort of compensation (again, 100% worth) from the Pool OP.
If you made the mistake, consider it an $80 lesson
November 03, 2011, 08:45:53 PM
Hello there,
There is a problem with the automatic payment.
I had an automatic payment of 25 bitcoins which went to a different address which is not mine.
Here is a pic:
The top address is not mine and the actual address in the account is still 1ATRa5im91QsuNDYL81BpvhENuJWE78Ets.
Please advise!
There is a problem with the automatic payment.
I had an automatic payment of 25 bitcoins which went to a different address which is not mine.
Here is a pic:
The top address is not mine and the actual address in the account is still 1ATRa5im91QsuNDYL81BpvhENuJWE78Ets.
Please advise!
November 03, 2011, 04:05:08 PM
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Just make 1% fee for everyone!
second that.
November 03, 2011, 04:02:05 PM
I would just like you to test out the software before coming to conclusions as to what is going on.
I would not donate to a project, nor spend my time giving you the suggestion to use the psj software, unless I thought that the results it produced were valid.
After you first mentioned it, I reviewed the PoolServerJ source code and was impressed by its high quality. Its pluggable design is also admirable; seems like a top notch backend all-in-all, certainly worthy of a donation!I would not donate to a project, nor spend my time giving you the suggestion to use the psj software, unless I thought that the results it produced were valid.
So thanks for bringing it to our attention
I would love to come back to ABC if you PoolserverJ. Mergedmining and better code, why not?
November 03, 2011, 03:20:53 PM
I hope the pool starts charging a fee soon (like 2-4% maybe) since the way it is there is no way the pool is making a profit!
I just makes me concerned this is yet another "0% fee" pool that plans to make money by stealing.
I would rather have 10% fee and know that the pool is honest.
Oh an by the way I have my donation set as 0%! It's not fair to donate when most of the others on the pool probably don't. Just make 1% fee for everyone!
I just makes me concerned this is yet another "0% fee" pool that plans to make money by stealing.
I would rather have 10% fee and know that the pool is honest.
Oh an by the way I have my donation set as 0%! It's not fair to donate when most of the others on the pool probably don't. Just make 1% fee for everyone!
November 03, 2011, 12:47:33 PM
I would just like you to test out the software before coming to conclusions as to what is going on.
I would not donate to a project, nor spend my time giving you the suggestion to use the psj software, unless I thought that the results it produced were valid.
After you first mentioned it, I reviewed the PoolServerJ source code and was impressed by its high quality. Its pluggable design is also admirable; seems like a top notch backend all-in-all, certainly worthy of a donation!I would not donate to a project, nor spend my time giving you the suggestion to use the psj software, unless I thought that the results it produced were valid.
So thanks for bringing it to our attention
Agreed! Already merged mining ready out of the box, really easy to set it up and of course compatible to pushpool database tables.
Next version will even be huge: psj will generate work and blocks internally. bitcoind won't be a bottleneck for pools anymore.
November 03, 2011, 11:53:56 AM
I would just like you to test out the software before coming to conclusions as to what is going on.
I would not donate to a project, nor spend my time giving you the suggestion to use the psj software, unless I thought that the results it produced were valid.
After you first mentioned it, I reviewed the PoolServerJ source code and was impressed by its high quality. Its pluggable design is also admirable; seems like a top notch backend all-in-all, certainly worthy of a donation!I would not donate to a project, nor spend my time giving you the suggestion to use the psj software, unless I thought that the results it produced were valid.
So thanks for bringing it to our attention
November 03, 2011, 11:45:48 AM
In response to: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.604648
...therefore, MY system is in fact predictable (as I stated) and maintains 99.50%++ VALID SHARE AVERAGE on all top PPS Pools that I have used.
I stand behind what I have said about my particular setup, 100%.
I'm sure your valid share rate at other pools is as you say, and that it is lower at ABCPool. My point is that it is irrelevant. What is relevant is the *absolute number* of valid shares you produce in a day at each pool, *not the percentage*. Let's say you produce 80000 valid shares + 400 invalids at some pool, giving you a 99.5% valid rate. Now you come to ABCPool and generate 80000 valid + 3333 invalids, giving you a 96% valid rate but with exactly the same payout. And that's part of what's been happening lately at ABCPool; many invalids are retries of shares that were already accepted as valid. As you see, it does not matter if you also generate thousands of invalid shares due to to various reasons; as long as the number of valid shares is what you'd expect, your payout will be the same. ...therefore, MY system is in fact predictable (as I stated) and maintains 99.50%++ VALID SHARE AVERAGE on all top PPS Pools that I have used.
I stand behind what I have said about my particular setup, 100%.
Therefore the better question to ask is: how do your valid share counts, and consequently your payouts, compare between pools? You certainly need longer than a few hours to measure those.
We would be glad to welcome you back for a longer test-run!
MC
November 03, 2011, 11:27:47 AM
Here is a link to proof why the pool should use poolserverj -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.602707
Those are some impressive graphs, at first glance! However.. I notice they're from november 1, and you were mining on yourbtc.net. A quote from their main page:Quote
We are now accepting stale shares from NMC chain as a valid share until we have a more advanced solution.
This is an excellent example of masking invalid shares. From your screenshot it seems the pool has good rates. While in fact there's no net improvement at all: nothing has changed in the income of the pool and nothing has changed in the payouts of the pool. The rewards are just redistributed, now favoring those who would otherwise have more stales. Of course, this takes earnings away from people who are actually mining efficiently. But they conveniently forget to mention that fact..There's an additional problem with masking stale shares: It becomes harder to tweak your rigs/setup because you don't get any useful feedback on stale shares anymore.
My point remains (and it applies to all pools, including our own) that a pool owner can never prove to its miners that the reported stats are correct, without giving everyone complete access to his systems. While the whole Bitcoin concept is based on proof: proof of work, proof of transaction, etc., Pool stats cannot be proven correct without full access.
November 03, 2011, 09:43:50 AM
So it seems you've been a victim of faked stats.
I would just like you to test out the software before coming to conclusions as to what is going on. I would not donate to a project, nor spend my time giving you the suggestion to use the psj software, unless I thought that the results it produced were valid.
November 03, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
I was a long time abc miner, my stats are pretty good
Lifetime Valid: 5419969 shares
Lifetime Stale: 35531 shares
Lifetime Invalid: 29292 shares
Recently my account was hacked and lost 2 btc, it was mainly my fault because my account password is too simple and hasn't been changed for several weeks. But I would suggest MintCondition/Chlorine to improve user account security/protection like https access, payout notification, account setting change confirmation, etc...
Lifetime Valid: 5419969 shares
Lifetime Stale: 35531 shares
Lifetime Invalid: 29292 shares
Recently my account was hacked and lost 2 btc, it was mainly my fault because my account password is too simple and hasn't been changed for several weeks. But I would suggest MintCondition/Chlorine to improve user account security/protection like https access, payout notification, account setting change confirmation, etc...
November 03, 2011, 08:51:13 AM
I'd suggest abcpool take a look a poolserverj
shadders has done some great work on it.
shadders has done some great work on it.
November 03, 2011, 07:22:45 AM
My statistics are nice and im pretty happy with my results. Been fulltime abc miner like 2-3 weeks.
24-hour running totals:
99.22% valid (13285), 0.52% stale (70), 0.25% invalid (34).
24-hour running totals:
99.22% valid (13285), 0.52% stale (70), 0.25% invalid (34).
November 03, 2011, 02:46:05 AM
In all fairness to the pool though, IT WAS A SHORT TEST and I bailed after .... just short of a couple (under 2 hours) hours because I had become frustrated with my stats, especially when I KNOW how my setup performs. I failed to see how it would get any better considering my INVALID amounts were climbing at a rate of OVER 3:1 over the regular STALES......
I will try set aside some hardware to do a full 1 or 2 day test and see the results after that.
You have to admit.....for a Pool that pays for STALE Shares, there sure seem to be alot of INVALIDS. Just an observation
Total Shares ...5125 (100%)
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Total Valid ......4966 (96.90%) - PAID
Total Stale ........37 (0.72%) - PAID ................ (23.27% of 159 stales+invalids total)
Total Invalid .....122 (2.38%) - NOT PAID ......... (76.73% of 159 stales+invalids total)
I will try set aside some hardware to do a full 1 or 2 day test and see the results after that.
You have to admit.....for a Pool that pays for STALE Shares, there sure seem to be alot of INVALIDS. Just an observation
Total Shares ...5125 (100%)
------------------------------
Total Valid ......4966 (96.90%) - PAID
Total Stale ........37 (0.72%) - PAID ................ (23.27% of 159 stales+invalids total)
Total Invalid .....122 (2.38%) - NOT PAID ......... (76.73% of 159 stales+invalids total)
November 03, 2011, 02:33:26 AM
In response to: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.604648
...therefore, MY system is in fact predictable (as I stated) and maintains 99.50%++ VALID SHARE AVERAGE on all top PPS Pools that I have used.
...therefore, MY system is in fact predictable (as I stated) and maintains 99.50%++ VALID SHARE AVERAGE on all top PPS Pools that I have used.
Hi bitlane. How much is the fee of the pools where you get a 99.5%+ valid share average? In other words how much do you get paid per share?
In our opinion, the only thing that counts is earnings.
Chlorine.
That kind of sounds like an admission that the pool is scraping some earnings from strange invalids etc INSTEAD of taking a fee....
November 03, 2011, 02:32:16 AM
In response to: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.604648
...therefore, MY system is in fact predictable (as I stated) and maintains 99.50%++ VALID SHARE AVERAGE on all top PPS Pools that I have used.
...therefore, MY system is in fact predictable (as I stated) and maintains 99.50%++ VALID SHARE AVERAGE on all top PPS Pools that I have used.
Hi bitlane. How much is the fee of the pools where you get a 99.5%+ valid share average? In other words how much do you get paid per share?
In our opinion, the only thing that counts is earnings.
Chlorine.
Well, for example, 1 of the pools is 5%.....but considering not only my VALID Share average is down, but also my TOTAL SHARES SUBMITTED is less as well, the 5% pool seems to prevail once again and pay me more than a free pool does.
5% Pool = 3360 Shares/hour, 99.50% Valid ...................... Free Pool = 3110 Shares/hour, 96% Valid = perhaps too close to call.
November 03, 2011, 02:25:54 AM
In response to: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.604648
...therefore, MY system is in fact predictable (as I stated) and maintains 99.50%++ VALID SHARE AVERAGE on all top PPS Pools that I have used.
...therefore, MY system is in fact predictable (as I stated) and maintains 99.50%++ VALID SHARE AVERAGE on all top PPS Pools that I have used.
Hi bitlane. How much is the fee of the pools where you get a 99.5%+ valid share average? In other words how much do you get paid per share?
In our opinion, the only thing that counts is earnings.
Chlorine.
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