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Croatia is not listed as a terrorist country by the CIA.


No, but it is about to undergo sanctions by the European Commission (EC) for refusing to extradite Josip Perković to the Federal Republic of Germany in accordance with its' accession contract – see the Washington Post article. Now, did I lie when I wrote:

Oh, so you are in a terrorist state?


In fact, yes. The predecessor of this state killed more citizens of the Federal Republic of Germany on their own soil than Ministerium für Staatssicherheit – the Minitry for State Security.

You still claiming that I'm a liar?

Additionally, unidentified operatives are deleting Wikipedia references to State Security Service activity – e. g. they have requested the deletion of the article on my paternal grandfather – Mihovil Lovrić – without explanation and removed him from the list of persons assassinated by the State Security Service. Josip Perković apparently also directed the assassination of Stanko Nižić in the Swiss Confederation – he was arrested by Swiss police at the time, but my article on it and my related arrest by Služba općeg kriminaliteta, terorizma i ratnih zločina – the General Criminality, Terrorism, and War Crimes Service – of the Republic of Croatia on January 17, 2013 CET, apparently due to mentioning the case, was deleted without much ado.

Additionally, the Republic of Croatia has recently produced a new psychiatric political prisoner – Marko Francišković.

My international lawsuit against the Republic of Croatia for torture etc. is dead serious and the only such case brought forward against the Republic of Croatia.
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I have added support for OpenPGP and changed the feedback method to the BitcoinTalk Trust network.
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Trade for fastcoin???


No.

Do you have any LiteCoins – I am considering offering this service for LiteCoins on a limited, test basis for starters.
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buyer may be a scammer.
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Now it is plainly obvious that you're a scammer
hey wait a minute. You just said before that he was obviously a scammer. Now you're saying he "may be" a scammer? Nice backtracking, bro.


I strive to be as factual as possible. If I were to repeat "obviously" when I have realized that he only fits the scammer behavious but this has not yet been confirmed, I would be a liar. Therefore, I have written "may" after realizing a lack of confirmation. However, everything points towards an incoming large-scale scam at some point – most likely after they draw many customers onto their service. This will – most likely – be either scamming of select customers who are unable to retaliate or a sudden closing of the service without refund.


buyer is most certainly an extortionist as they are coercing customers to go their way by posting scam intention accusations and/or pointing out the risk for customers in the same types of services that they are running themselves etc. in all competition threads. Also, I see they make accusing posts and then lock them so that the accused user cannot reply.
But it's only extortion if he's using coercion to extract money. If he's not asking for money, it's not coercion.

You clearly don't understand what the words you're using means. Your english skills are clearly lacking, either get better at english or don't use words you don't understand. At best you're making a fool of yourself, at worse you're being defamatory.


I do know that what he is doing is not direct extortion; however, it is coersion of customers into going their way and not providing negative feedback if / when scammed or simply provided with poor service, and an unstated threat of attacking them also if they do not go their way – I would say that they are an indirect extortionist.
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FUD.  Buyer is not a scammer and has never been accused of being a scammer by anyone other than a known scammer. 

buyer is not an extortionist, you are delusional.  Perhaps you think everyone is an extortionist because that's the way things work in croatia?  In the FREE WORLD people are free to speak their mind with no fear of repercussion.  In this case I chose to tell the world that sending money to croatia in an uninsurable package is asinine. As is agreeing to recieve money that will likely never arrive.


You keep attacking all / any competition in this forum with scam, no safety etc. accusations / proclamations. You have just stated that I am a known scammer – as I have accused you of being an obvious / likely scammer and that I am a scammer as you say the Cash in Unregistered Mail (CiUM) will likely never arrive.


This has NOTHING to do with the service the site I desiged offers.  As I have said my site does not do cash by mail and anyone doing so is an idiot.  You are, as we often see in this board, attacking the messanger because that's all you've got.

Your site sells something reversible by yourself, personally. Your customers may get it, give you a good rating, and then you can e.g. lock the thread – as you have done already in this board – and reverse the sale – e.g. sell the code to someone else or use it yourself – and claim that it is they who compromised the information of the reversible item.

The cash I send to the customers is irreversible – well, at least by me; the issuing state will – usually – withdraw the bill in question after a while – years of dozens of years.


Welcome to the free world my communist friend.


What? How did you know that I swore – most likely – the following oath at the age of 8 along with all of my elementary school mates:

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Danas, kada postajem pionir,
Dajem časnu pionirsku riječ:
Da ću marljivo učiti i raditi i biti dobar drug;
Da ću voljeti našu samoupravnu domovinu Socijalističku Federativnu Republiku Jugoslaviju;
Da ću razvijati bratstvo i jedinstvo i ideje za koje se borio Tito;
Da ću cijeniti sve ljude svijeta koji žele slobodu i mir!

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Today, when I become a Pioneer,
I give my solomn Pioneer word:
That I will study hard and work and be a good comrad;
That I will love our self-governing homeland, the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia;
That I will develop brothership and unity and the ideas for which Tito fought;
That I will respect all people of the world who desire freedom and peace!

?

We even got Pioneer uniforms and Pioneer hats with the Red Star in the front. I think my Pioneer Red Book is somewhere in the flat now owned by my mother.

Yes, I must fight buyer – the capitalist enemy!

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Trade for fastcoin???
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buyer may be a scammer.
buyer is most certainly an extortionist as they are coercing customers to go their way by posting scam intention accusations and/or pointing out the risk for customers in the same types of services that they are running themselves etc. in all competition threads. Also, I see they make accusing posts and then lock them so that the accused user cannot reply.
But it's only extortion if he's using coercion to extract money. If he's not asking for money, it's not coercion.

You clearly don't understand what the words you're using means. Your english skills are clearly lacking, either get better at english or don't use words you don't understand. At best you're making a fool of yourself, at worse you're being defamatory.
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FUD.  Buyer is not a scammer and has never been accused of being a scammer by anyone other than a known scammer. 

buyer is not an extortionist, you are delusional.  Perhaps you think everyone is an extortionist because that's the way things work in croatia?  In the FREE WORLD people are free to speak their mind with no fear of repercussion.  In this case I chose to tell the world that sending money to croatia in an uninsurable package is asinine. As is agreeing to recieve money that will likely never arrive.

This has NOTHING to do with the service the site I desiged offers.  As I have said my site does not do cash by mail and anyone doing so is an idiot.  You are, as we often see in this board, attacking the messanger because that's all you've got. 

Welcome to the free world my communist friend.
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You clearly do not know what "scammer" and "extortionist" means.

scammer = fail to uphold his side of the agreement
extortionist = obtaining money through coercion

So tell me, how exactly did buyer do any of the two things?


buyer may be a scammer.

buyer is most certainly an extortionist as they are coercing customers to go their way by posting scam intention accusations and/or pointing out the risk for customers in the same types of services that they are running themselves etc. in all competition threads. Also, I see they make accusing posts and then lock them so that the accused user cannot reply.
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Dude as a foreigner you OBVIOUSLY have no idea what an American is.  I was born and raised in America. I am now a productive adult with children who are also Americans.  And like all my neighbors we follow the laws we think we should.  America's history includes horrors and bright stars.  America is a group of people living in a location who all agree to be governed by the government we elect.  Keep your terrorist notions at home in your terrorist state.


And if you want to deal with Americans you should probably register with FinCEN at the Department of Treasury at the very least.  But none of this lends any credibility to your offer of "sending cash from croatia" or "sending cash to croatia".

(FWIW Croatia is not listed as a terrorist country by the CIA.)


You're bragging how you're a productive extortionist. Also, this bragging of Americanity only brings to my mind the picture of the dozen children killed in a North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) airstrike in Afghanistan just a few days prior to the Boston bombings. Will those kids also be able to be productive Afghanis one day with children who are also Afghanis? Of course, your media carefully censored that news item so that those two Islamists seem like they were attacking and not counter-attacking.

Also, you should look up terror in the dictionary. Is Syria a terrorist or non-terrorist state when it attacks its' own people and not the United States of America (USA)? According to your line of thinking, terrorism is an act against the United States of America (USA); terror over citizens of any other nation not terrorism. Any state which terrorizes any people – of other nations or its' own – is a terrorist state. Terrorism exists irrespective of the statements of the United States of Americas' (USAs') Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). For instance, the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrorist attacks meant to kill as many Japanese people as possible to demonstrate the power of your new weapon, terrorize the people of Japan, and make Japan surrender.

Does your pretty little Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) World "Factbook" say anything negative about the United States of America (USA)? Does it mention the use of chemical weapons on the Viet Cong? Does it say anything negative on the members states of the UKUSA Agreement? How about North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) member states? The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) World "Factbook" is propaganda material. In the 1990-es, it stated that the strongest party in the Republic of Croatia is Hrvatska stranka prava (HSP) – the Croatian Party of Rights – because Dobroslav Paraga – its' president – was an operative of one of United States of Americas' (USAs') intelligence agencies. This same party had something like 5% in parliament. ROFL
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So you need two threads to scam?  And you want me to post the same reponse in each one, ok.
Now it is plainly obvious that you're a scammer and an extortionist as it is you who have stated posting in both of my threads.
You clearly do not know what "scammer" and "extortionist" means.

scammer = fail to uphold his side of the agreement
extortionist = obtaining money through coercion

So tell me, how exactly did buyer do any of the two things?
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True Americans are the people fighting the American government and the American police on the streets of America so that their children may enjoy the same freedoms as they have. True Americans are not the ones sucking up to the government or the police.

Dude as a foreigner you OBVIOUSLY have no idea what an American is.  I was born and raised in America. I am now a productive adult with children who are also Americans.  And like all my neighbors we follow the laws we think we should.  America's history includes horrors and bright stars.  America is a group of people living in a location who all agree to be governed by the government we elect.  Keep your terrorist notions at home in your terrorist state.


And if you want to deal with Americans you should probably register with FinCEN at the Department of Treasury at the very least.  But none of this lends any credibility to your offer of "sending cash from croatia" or "sending cash to croatia".

(FWIW Croatia is not listed as a terrorist country by the CIA.)




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Oh, so you are in a terrorist state?


In fact, yes.

Sorry dude, I'm an American.  Fuck you and your terrorist friends.


ANYONE DEALING WITH THE OP IS SUPPORTING TERRORISM!


Interesting how you selectively quote select parts of another thread to make readers percieve the approximate opposite of what was posted. I think that – at this point – unemotional psychopathic posting has beed clearly identified.


My last question to your non-answers was "What terrorist state do you live in?"


I live in the Republic of Croatia and somehow – as you keep advertizing that you're an American for your own benefit – I suspect that you may actually be a non-American. "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." True Americans are the people fighting the American government and the American police on the streets of America so that their children may enjoy the same freedoms as they have. True Americans are not the ones sucking up to the government or the police.
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Oh, so you are in a terrorist state?


In fact, yes.

Sorry dude, I'm an American.  Fuck you and your terrorist friends.


ANYONE DEALING WITH THE OP IS SUPPORTING TERRORISM!
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My last question to your non-answers was "What terrorist state do you live in?"

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So you need two threads to scam?  And you want me to post the same reponse in each one, ok.


Now it is plainly obvious that you're a scammer and an extortionist as it is you who have stated posting in both of my threads.


Comparing my service to your unregistered and criminal attracting money laundering "cash in the mail" offering is not fair.  We are registered and do not break the law.

I only post when people come to scam, as you obviously have.  Your ad hominum attacks against me are transparent to the users who see you trying to scam them.


You are a sponsor of totalitarianism and not a libertarian. For instance, the law once said that Jews must be gassed with Zyklon B. I would disobey and you are law abiding. Additionally, I cannot register a business even if I wanted to as I am under a full government blockade following an international lawsuit against the state. However, I have no intention of sponsoring unlawful police attacks and beatings of me – and others as well, for that matter – by paying them tax.

The users will decide for themselves who is the real scammer plus who stands for what.
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So you need two threads to scam?  And you want me to post the same reponse in each one, ok.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2475654

Of course it is risky, much like the services which you run yourself. Seeing as how you're posting scam accusations in all competing threads, I would say that your services might be a true risk for the buyer and that not being due to e.g. shipment loss or theft by postal workers as your current bahaviour is a scam in itself.


Comparing my service to your unregistered and criminal attracting money laundering "cash in the mail" offering is not fair.  We are registered and do not break the law.

I only post when people come to scam, as you obviously have.  Your ad hominum attacks against me are transparent to the users who see you trying to scam them.




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Nice attempt to evade the argument.  Why did you not answer the charge that you are running a risky service for the buyer?  There is no secret that I built (but do not own) a btc to gift card service.  And it is registered and law abiding.  Don't you wish you could say the same?


Of course it is risky, much like the services which you run yourself. Seeing as how you're posting scam accusations in all competing threads, I would say that your services might be a true risk for the buyer and that not being due to e.g. shipment loss or theft by postal workers as your current bahaviour is a scam in itself and customer manipulation.
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This is a HIGHLY RISKY proposition for the sender of the cash who cannot insure it's arrival by any known means.  Video taped packages do not have any legal standing. 

If you send the OP money and he says he didn't receive it you are F'D.


buyer runs similar services and is posting scam accusations in all competing service offer threads.
ad hominem.
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This is a HIGHLY RISKY proposition for the sender of the cash who cannot insure it's arrival by any known means.  Video taped packages do not have any legal standing.  

If you send the OP money and he says he didn't receive it you are F'D.


buyer runs similar services and is posting scam accusations in all competing service offer threads.

Nice attempt to evade the argument.  Why did you not answer the charge that you are running a risky service for the buyer?  There is no secret that I built (but do not own) a btc to gift card service.  And it is registered and law abiding.  Don't you wish you could say the same?

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