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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 282. (Read 2592023 times)

newbie
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Is it better to run your own node or use a public one? When using a pubic one does it matter which one you use? Also, with an S3+ do I need to change the diff?


p2pool was intended to be run locally, it is almost always better to run your own node.

If you want to try the pool out, try to find a node close to you.

Ours is US East coast: http://minefast.coincadence.com

Is the front end you are running on your node available to us to use on our own nodes? thx
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Is it better to run your own node or use a public one? When using a pubic one does it matter which one you use? Also, with an S3+ do I need to change the diff?

As windpath stated, it's always recommended to run your own local node; however, it's not always possible to do so.  There are plenty of publicly available nodes to which you can point your miners, windpath's certainly being one of the best in my opinion.  It doesn't matter which node you end up using, but you should try to find one that has been up and running for a while, has a good ping time from your location and has a low number of dead/orphan shares.

No, you don't need to change the diff using an S3+.  The node on which you are mining will dynamically assign your miner a difficulty based upon the node's hash rate.  If you look a few posts up, you'll see our Chinese friends have posted some screenshots of their settings.  By the way, congrats to them on finding that block!
legendary
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Is it better to run your own node or use a public one? When using a pubic one does it matter which one you use? Also, with an S3+ do I need to change the diff?


p2pool was intended to be run locally, it is almost always better to run your own node.

If you want to try the pool out, try to find a node close to you.

Ours is US East coast: http://minefast.coincadence.com
newbie
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Is it better to run your own node or use a public one? When using a pubic one does it matter which one you use? Also, with an S3+ do I need to change the diff?
member
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Holy Moly!! That's a monster share my man - a true block solver!  Cheesy Cheesy

Thanks for the advice - greetings to China  Wink

 Grin Cheesy
legendary
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Holy Moly!! That's a monster share my man - a true block solver!  Cheesy Cheesy

It's barely big enough!  Next increase and it'll be too small!

M
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Holy Moly!! That's a monster share my man - a true block solver!  Cheesy Cheesy

Thanks for the advice - greetings to China  Wink
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请使用正确的难度。
P2POOL,这15天效率很低,
原因:中国矿工约有1.5PH/S,使用了超大的难度(+5120或者更多),
我们及时的更改了错误,目前全部使用大约是难度比例1:1。
P2POOL这些天低效率,我们表示抱歉。
但是我们认识到了最好的难度选择是:选择和矿机算力相等的难度。
当前我们的蚂蚁S3+518(+512,S3不显示BestShare),
1TH/S+1028,

S3+518,平均5秒一个Accepted。

S3+5120,大部分计算都超时,被服务器拒绝,能挖到的Share,但是很难产生块。

希望这些数据能帮助到更多的P2POOL矿工,

使用正确的难度选择。

来自中国的P2POOL爱好者。

百度在线翻译

Please use the correct difficulty.
P2POOL, this 15 days the efficiency is very low,
Reason: the Chinese miners about 1.5PH/S, using the large difficulty (+5120 or more),
We amend the wrong, all currently used is about difficulty ratio 1:1.
P2POOL these days and low efficiency, we apologize.
But we recognize the difficulty of selecting the best: the selection and calculation of force is equal to the difficulty of mining machine.
Our current ant S3+518 (+512, S3 does not display the BestShare),
1TH/S+1028,
S3+518, an average of 5 seconds for a Accepted.
S3+5120, most computing timeout, was rejected by the server, can dig into Share, but it is difficult to produce block.
Hope that these data will help to more P2POOL miners,
The use of the difficulty of choosing the right.
From Chinese P2POOL lovers.
Baidu online translation
sr. member
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Decentralize your hashing - p2pool - Norgz Pool
It is done correctly if ure using git on windows.

Ahh ok, I only just changed over to using the python version from git. I did see that but have yet to test Wink thanks for confirming!
legendary
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Don`t panic! Organize!
It is done correctly if ure using git on windows.
sr. member
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Decentralize your hashing - p2pool - Norgz Pool
For those wanting to run a node on windows from python. i.e. from latest updates. there is a simple way to set the correct version. edit /p2pool/__init__.py.

on the last line change

__version__ = _get_version()

to

__version__ = 'type the version and build number here'

e.g. I put the last known version then the git number

__version__ = '3.14 Build 8cffc88'
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Current pool rate: 370TH/s  Shocked
I was like wat
hero member
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
With peace & serenity once again restored......now all we need is a few blocks to float in  Grin

By the way, did anyone notice anything different with the latest git pull?
hero member
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
I noticed mmpool are switching over to a p2pool back end - it will be interesting to see how they manage the merge mining payout problem......

That explains why the pool is at 4.3 PH/s now.

One good thing about increasing BTC difficulty is p2pool share difficulty decreases to compensate.

M

I'm not sure they're connected yet, still working on it last time I checked, but their hash rate has increased 4x all of a sudden.......
legendary
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I noticed mmpool are switching over to a p2pool back end - it will be interesting to see how they manage the merge mining payout problem......

That explains why the pool is at 4.3 PH/s now.

One good thing about increasing BTC difficulty is p2pool share difficulty decreases to compensate.

M
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
I noticed mmpool are switching over to a p2pool back end - it will be interesting to see how they manage the merge mining payout problem......
Unlike typical p2pool nodes, they've already got the infrastructure in place to handle the payouts of merged-mined coins (PPS).  I'm actually quite interested to see how they pull off using p2pool as the backend, instead of their current "traditional" DGM pool model.
legendary
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I noticed mmpool are switching over to a p2pool back end - it will be interesting to see how they manage the merge mining payout problem......
Yes indeed it will  Cool
legendary
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In regard to merge mining (and I apologize if I've missed it in this thread)...how do you pay found merge mined blocks back to your nodes miners? I see that some people manually convert merge mined coins to BTC and then do a "send many" back to p2pool but has anyone figure out something better?

Someone forked proxy pool to accept a second coins payment address in the password field but every public site using it has since shut down. I am concerned that it may not be a viable solution.  Undecided
You haven't missed it.  There's absolutely no support for it, and in the current state of the code, there's no way to even do it.  For example, let's say that I mine on node 1 for some time and find 3 shares.  I move onto node 2.  I find 5 more shares.  I move back to node 1 again, and I find a share that solves a merged coin block.  How does the node pay me?  What about paying other miners who had previously been on the node, but for whatever reason have since moved off?  Besides this, how do you know to which addresses to pay out the coins?

There are a lot of changes that would be required to ever be able to handle paying out merged coins to miners in any way.
Hey jonnybravo0311,

I sent you a PM about p2pool merged mining etc. not sure you can answer. Feel free to post my question in thread here if you think any answers will help you may have.  Cheesy

thx
MMNC
Replied.  Basically the answer is the same as I posted here.  When you enable merged mining on your node, you are effectively solo mining the merged coins using the power of all the miners on your node.  There is no provision there to payout the miners on your node any of the merged coins.

In regard to merge mining (and I apologize if I've missed it in this thread)...how do you pay found merge mined blocks back to your nodes miners? I see that some people manually convert merge mined coins to BTC and then do a "send many" back to p2pool but has anyone figure out something better?

Someone forked proxy pool to accept a second coins payment address in the password field but every public site using it has since shut down. I am concerned that it may not be a viable solution.  Undecided
You haven't missed it.  There's absolutely no support for it, and in the current state of the code, there's no way to even do it.  For example, let's say that I mine on node 1 for some time and find 3 shares.  I move onto node 2.  I find 5 more shares.  I move back to node 1 again, and I find a share that solves a merged coin block.  How does the node pay me?  What about paying other miners who had previously been on the node, but for whatever reason have since moved off?  Besides this, how do you know to which addresses to pay out the coins?

There are a lot of changes that would be required to ever be able to handle paying out merged coins to miners in any way.
Thanks jonnybravo0311.

I had the thought of supporting merge mined coins by having p2pool use additional sharechains (auxShareChain). It would handle payments and combine the hashing power just like the main sharechain. Not a trivial task and beyond my time and skill level.
There are a ton of changes that would need to be made to try and implement merged-mining payouts.

Hey I am seeing this issue more clearly now lol

Thanks!
I Pm'd ya
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
I noticed mmpool are switching over to a p2pool back end - it will be interesting to see how they manage the merge mining payout problem......
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
In regard to merge mining (and I apologize if I've missed it in this thread)...how do you pay found merge mined blocks back to your nodes miners? I see that some people manually convert merge mined coins to BTC and then do a "send many" back to p2pool but has anyone figure out something better?

Someone forked proxy pool to accept a second coins payment address in the password field but every public site using it has since shut down. I am concerned that it may not be a viable solution.  Undecided
You haven't missed it.  There's absolutely no support for it, and in the current state of the code, there's no way to even do it.  For example, let's say that I mine on node 1 for some time and find 3 shares.  I move onto node 2.  I find 5 more shares.  I move back to node 1 again, and I find a share that solves a merged coin block.  How does the node pay me?  What about paying other miners who had previously been on the node, but for whatever reason have since moved off?  Besides this, how do you know to which addresses to pay out the coins?

There are a lot of changes that would be required to ever be able to handle paying out merged coins to miners in any way.
Hey jonnybravo0311,

I sent you a PM about p2pool merged mining etc. not sure you can answer. Feel free to post my question in thread here if you think any answers will help you may have.  Cheesy

thx
MMNC
Replied.  Basically the answer is the same as I posted here.  When you enable merged mining on your node, you are effectively solo mining the merged coins using the power of all the miners on your node.  There is no provision there to payout the miners on your node any of the merged coins.

In regard to merge mining (and I apologize if I've missed it in this thread)...how do you pay found merge mined blocks back to your nodes miners? I see that some people manually convert merge mined coins to BTC and then do a "send many" back to p2pool but has anyone figure out something better?

Someone forked proxy pool to accept a second coins payment address in the password field but every public site using it has since shut down. I am concerned that it may not be a viable solution.  Undecided
You haven't missed it.  There's absolutely no support for it, and in the current state of the code, there's no way to even do it.  For example, let's say that I mine on node 1 for some time and find 3 shares.  I move onto node 2.  I find 5 more shares.  I move back to node 1 again, and I find a share that solves a merged coin block.  How does the node pay me?  What about paying other miners who had previously been on the node, but for whatever reason have since moved off?  Besides this, how do you know to which addresses to pay out the coins?

There are a lot of changes that would be required to ever be able to handle paying out merged coins to miners in any way.
Thanks jonnybravo0311.

I had the thought of supporting merge mined coins by having p2pool use additional sharechains (auxShareChain). It would handle payments and combine the hashing power just like the main sharechain. Not a trivial task and beyond my time and skill level.
There are a ton of changes that would need to be made to try and implement merged-mining payouts.
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