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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 312. (Read 2591971 times)

legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001

Difficulty is very high.  It's hard to get a share in with 1.5TH/s.  It took me 12 hours to get one share with 1.1 TH/s.

Remember the 3 days PPLNS.  Your payout dropped because some of your shares from 3+ days ago have fallen off. 

M

in other words at this time isn't profittable mining in p2p with <1.5 TH / s?

E

No, I don't think that's the case.  I think variance will get you if you're under 1 TH/s ... and after the 20% diff increase coming up, the threshold for hashspeed will likely raise.

That said, I see a few folks with S1 (180 GH/s) on my p2pool node, so I guess it depends on your tolerance for variance.

M
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0

Difficulty is very high.  It's hard to get a share in with 1.5TH/s.  It took me 12 hours to get one share with 1.1 TH/s.

Remember the 3 days PPLNS.  Your payout dropped because some of your shares from 3+ days ago have fallen off. 

M

in other words at this time isn't profittable mining in p2p with <1.5 TH / s?

E
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
p2coins.com:9332 has 81% effie  Shocked
 Very bad node.

Thank's rav3n_pl for fast reply!!!

I'm looking for some node in europe with good latency and efficiency ... could you recommend one, possibly with 0% fee?

PS i've switched to http://pool.petamine.co:9332/ is this a good pool?

Check http://p2pool-nodes.info/

M

I found the pool petamine looking at ttp: //p2pool-nodes.info/ and I chose it for the lowest ping.

after a couple of hours my reward was lowered again from 0.0088 to 0.0058 ... very bad for 1.5th / s.

my antminer were set with the share diff 256 (I tried 512 but I had worst results).

I'm doing something wrong or am I just unlucky? ;-)

again thanks in advance, Erik

Difficulty is very high.  It's hard to get a share in with 1.5TH/s.  It took me 12 hours to get one share with 1.1 TH/s.

Remember the 3 days PPLNS.  Your payout dropped because some of your shares from 3+ days ago have fallen off. 

M
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
p2coins.com:9332 has 81% effie  Shocked
 Very bad node.

Thank's rav3n_pl for fast reply!!!

I'm looking for some node in europe with good latency and efficiency ... could you recommend one, possibly with 0% fee?

PS i've switched to http://pool.petamine.co:9332/ is this a good pool?

Check http://p2pool-nodes.info/

M

I found the pool petamine looking at ttp: //p2pool-nodes.info/ and I chose it for the lowest ping.

after a couple of hours my reward was lowered again from 0.0088 to 0.0058 ... very bad for 1.5th / s.

my antminer were set with the share diff 256 (I tried 512 but I had worst results).

I'm doing something wrong or am I just unlucky? ;-)

again thanks in advance, Erik
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
p2coins.com:9332 has 81% effie  Shocked
 Very bad node.

Thank's rav3n_pl for fast reply!!!

I'm looking for some node in europe with good latency and efficiency ... could you recommend one, possibly with 0% fee?

PS i've switched to http://pool.petamine.co:9332/ is this a good pool?
Check http://p2pool-nodes.info/
M
I like this list! BUT: how do I add a pool to my miner ?? Some of them have no miner-info on theyr site ...

Use the host IP address and port listed in the left most column.  I personally suggest going for one that has a low ping for you AND has been up for a while.

M
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
p2coins.com:9332 has 81% effie  Shocked
 Very bad node.

Thank's rav3n_pl for fast reply!!!

I'm looking for some node in europe with good latency and efficiency ... could you recommend one, possibly with 0% fee?

PS i've switched to http://pool.petamine.co:9332/ is this a good pool?
Check http://p2pool-nodes.info/
M
I like this list! BUT: how do I add a pool to my miner ?? Some of them have no miner-info on theyr site ...
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
Took me 13 hours at 1.18 TH/s but I finally got a share.

M
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
This might be something: http://elizium.name

What y'all think about elizium ??
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
p2coins.com:9332 has 81% effie  Shocked
 Very bad node.

Thank's rav3n_pl for fast reply!!!

I'm looking for some node in europe with good latency and efficiency ... could you recommend one, possibly with 0% fee?

PS i've switched to http://pool.petamine.co:9332/ is this a good pool?

Check http://p2pool-nodes.info/

M
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
p2coins.com:9332 has 81% effie  Shocked
 Very bad node.

Thank's rav3n_pl for fast reply!!!

I'm looking for some node in europe with good latency and efficiency ... could you recommend one, possibly with 0% fee?

PS i've switched to http://pool.petamine.co:9332/ is this a good pool?
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
Hi i'm a total newbie of p2p mining, I am very excited of p2pool but I'm having some problems ... until a week ago, my reward was aligned with my speed, now is no longer so. This week I bought a antminer s3 and incredibly my reward instead of growing has halved.

someone could give me a hand to understand why?

I'm mining in p2coins.com:9332 pool my addess is 12WF4HJUyYUb3ikDdwstXAgiF5Nx4stzvD

Thanks in advance Erik

Pool hashrate has increased significantly.  Your payout decrease should be offset by more payouts..

M
legendary
Activity: 1361
Merit: 1003
Don`t panic! Organize!
p2coins.com:9332 has 81% effie  Shocked
 Very bad node.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
Hi i'm a total newbie of p2p mining, I am very excited of p2pool but I'm having some problems ... until a week ago, my reward was aligned with my speed, now is no longer so. This week I bought a antminer s3 and incredibly my reward instead of growing has halved.

someone could give me a hand to understand why?

I'm mining in p2coins.com:9332 pool my addess is 12WF4HJUyYUb3ikDdwstXAgiF5Nx4stzvD

Thanks in advance Erik
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Not one share in 36hrs @ 1.1TH's..  Undecided.

taking a break

Hang in there, just a bout of bad luck. I have exactly 1.1TH/s as well and I've found 6 shares in the last 36hrs. One was DOA. The new difficulty (7491175.77 right now) is brutal.
full member
Activity: 125
Merit: 100
Not one share in 36hrs @ 1.1TH's..  Undecided.

taking a break
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
If I have 2 miners, and put one on one node, and the second on a separate one, both with the same bitcoin address, does anything weird happen?

Each node should report the proper hashrate of that particular miner, but the shares shown should be higher than expected, right?

ie miner 1 gets a share an hour, miner 2 gets a share an hour, each node show that the address is earning 2 shares an hour?

The expected payout will be the sum of both miners, however the shares found that are displayed will be unique on each node as each node only displays its own found shares (this is true for all current front ends I am aware of).

Ah great, that answered my question thanks.
Wouldn't you be able to read that data from the share chain?  Every node has a copy of the chain, and each share must know its own payout address.  For example, I just pulled a random share from my own node.  Using the JSON call to get the share data (node:9332/web/share/SHARE_HASH), I get the following data:
Code:
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The "payout_address" is not mine, so therefore, I could certainly build a common list of shares that held true across nodes as well.  Obviously you wouldn't be able to know about orphans/dead shares across nodes because they're not tracked in the share chain.

EDIT: I just tried that on both my node and windpath's and not surprisingly, get the same data back for that share hash.  So, it's certainly possible to build out a common list of shares by miner that would persist across the nodes.  Windpath, on your site you show miner data and if a miner is not mining on your node, the only info you provide is the expected payout, and payouts per block in history.  Using the method I described above, you could now also provide miners with the shares they currently have on the chain.
legendary
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so I have a question.

I was a p2pool miner about 2 years ago, and it worked out brilliantly for me,

I have just gotten back into mining and set up my own p2pool and everything seems to be working however I have some questions.

1) I am mining at about 4TH is that even enough for p2pool solo??

Define solo?  Meaning running your own node but part of the p2pool network?  If so the answer is yes. 

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2) it says "expected time to share of XXXX... however if the pool has some good luck does that mean I wont get any part of the discovered block since I didnt even get a share?

great example I have an estimated time to share of 2 hours, if we discover a block in 1hr does that mean i get jack? also if that happens does all my work go to squat too??

I dont recall it being this difficult to get a share previously but the hash rate was a lot slower.

p2pool uses a roughly 3 day pplns window.  That means whatever shares you've submitted in the last 3 days count towards your payout when a block is found.  If you *just* rejoined p2pool and don't have any shares yet, then yes, you won't get anything on a block.  With 4 TH/s, you should do just dandy with p2pool, assuming your hardware likes the 30 second share time.

Difficulty is the highest it's ever been in the history of p2pool.  Part of it is because the share time was changed from 10 seconds to 30 seconds, which tripled the difficulty.  Combine that with the age of ASICs when you can buy 1 TH/s for dirt cheap, and you get high difficulty.  Plus the gigahash scare has led a lot of people to alternatives, and p2pool, despite its faults, is a great alternative.

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If I have 2 miners, and put one on one node, and the second on a separate one, both with the same bitcoin address, does anything weird happen?

Each node should report the proper hashrate of that particular miner, but the shares shown should be higher than expected, right?

ie miner 1 gets a share an hour, miner 2 gets a share an hour, each node show that the address is earning 2 shares an hour?

The expected payout will be the sum of both miners, however the shares found that are displayed will be unique on each node as each node only displays its own found shares (this is true for all current front ends I am aware of).

Ah great, that answered my question thanks.
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so I have a question.

I was a p2pool miner about 2 years ago, and it worked out brilliantly for me,

I have just gotten back into mining and set up my own p2pool and everything seems to be working however I have some questions.

1) I am mining at about 4TH is that even enough for p2pool solo??
2) it says "expected time to share of XXXX... however if the pool has some good luck does that mean I wont get any part of the discovered block since I didnt even get a share?

great example I have an estimated time to share of 2 hours, if we discover a block in 1hr does that mean i get jack? also if that happens does all my work go to squat too??

I dont recall it being this difficult to get a share previously but the hash rate was a lot slower.
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Started a p2pool server in the Atlanta Area - Southeast USA - Getting some pretty stellar results.  Thanks everyone that has made this software what it is...

I am open for remote connections if you are in SouthEast USA - http://50.251.148.42:9332 I find the DOA rate drops nicely if you do not use the stratum option when connecting to a close server.


Again, I'd like to thank everyone in the community for making local pools a reality.   Smiley
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