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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 365. (Read 2591964 times)

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Bitcoindqt here is 1 hour behind, node punishes all the time - what is going on?

Never ending punishment Sad

2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -2 Safe mode: Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.


2014-06-15 20:51:42.276634 > ########################################
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276732 > >>> Warning: (from bitcoind) Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276794 > ########################################


The last time I saw that error, my bitcoin block chain was corrupted.  Rescan didn't fix it, and I had to re-download the whole damn thing.



I did that just yesterday, hardisk is going to give up then maybe, hd passed test...

It takes only 5 minutes to take a backup from .bitcoin directory and many hours to do it the hard way  Undecided

It was corrupted perhaps because of kernel options was not up to date with systemd
legendary
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Bitcoindqt here is 1 hour behind, node punishes all the time - what is going on?

Never ending punishment Sad

2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -2 Safe mode: Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.


2014-06-15 20:51:42.276634 > ########################################
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276732 > >>> Warning: (from bitcoind) Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276794 > ########################################


The last time I saw that error, my bitcoin block chain was corrupted.  Rescan didn't fix it, and I had to re-download the whole damn thing.

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arcs-chain.com
Bitcoindqt here is 1 hour behind, node punishes all the time - what is going on?

Never ending punishment Sad

2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -2 Safe mode: Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.


2014-06-15 20:51:42.276634 > ########################################
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276732 > >>> Warning: (from bitcoind) Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276794 > ########################################
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Luck works both ways.  There can be days when we can get 3 blocks in a row and get paid more overall than most pools. 

Is that part I put in bold accurate?  Most pools, to my knowledge, pay entirely based on luck.

M
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Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.


PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

We got a block now!  Smiley


Holly smokes I blocked...
Looks like its paying around 50.00 for 2 days at 3 TH HuhHuh Am I missing something???

Any Help in understanding??? Thanks

Luck works both ways.  There can be days when we can get 3 blocks in a row and get paid more overall than most pools. 
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Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.


PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

We got a block now!  Smiley


Holly smokes I blocked...
Looks like its paying around 50.00 for 2 days at 3 TH HuhHuh Am I missing something???

Any Help in understanding??? Thanks
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Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.


PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

We got a block now!  Smiley


Holly smokes I blocked...
Looks like its aying around 50.00 for 2 says at 3 TH HuhHuh Am I missing something???

Any Help in understanding??? Thanks
legendary
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Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.


PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

We got a block now!  Smiley
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Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.


PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................
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Hi Guys,

I have added a p2pool node hosted in Amsterdam (Netherlands). Feel free to use it and spread the hash!

http://btcp2p.dutchpool.eu:9332/static/
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Decentralize your hashing - p2pool - Norgz Pool
Anyone else seeing more orphans of late?
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Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.
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Decentralize your hashing - p2pool - Norgz Pool


I've written a p2pool merged coin payout tool which tries to help with paying out merged coins, but I'll admit it's of limited value. That's mainly because of a few things out of my control:

https://github.com/hunterbunter/p2pool-merged-payout-tool


this is great, i'll be integrating it into my nodes as soon as I have some time.
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Does anyone know of a way to capture the password input a miner uses? I'm wondering if it's possible for miners to differentiate workers this way.
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Thoughts I've had on making p2pool more attractive to prospective node operators...
  • Automated payouts of merge-mined coins built into p2pool.  Unfortunately, the way the merge-mining works is that you are effectively solo-mining all your merged coins.

Finally, there's the issue of variance.  Your average miner simply doesn't want to accept that he might go days without finding a share.  He sees his miners plugged in.  He sees them hashing.  Why isn't he earning?  On this point, I'm not sure what can be done to solve it.  Dynamically adjust the share time along with the difficulty?  Adjust the weighting of found shares based upon calculated miner hash rate?  I believe that the issue of variance is p2pool's fatal flaw.  Let's assume that EVERY miner everywhere suddenly had an epiphany and decided to join p2pool.  Yay!  We suddenly have 100PH/s!  Uh-oh.... share difficulty has shot up to a billion...

I've written a p2pool merged coin payout tool which tries to help with paying out merged coins, but I'll admit it's of limited value. That's mainly because of a few things out of my control:

https://github.com/hunterbunter/p2pool-merged-payout-tool

Currently it takes the server balance of all the merged mined coins, takes a record of the hashpower for the previous month (can be hour/day/week/month/year) from p2pool, then works out the market value of each coin in btc, and calculates what each should get. It shows two payout tables, one if you want to pay out in a particular convenient coin (everyone gets one type of coin), and the other if you do a native payout (everyone gets a bit of every coin). It still requires manual processing, though, but if you can get everyone's payout addresses in a database, it's fairly easy to make payouts automated too.

Regarding the issue of variance, and especially the share-chain difficulty, I agree it's a crippling issue, but no more than the original bitcoin blockchain itself - at 100% p2pool, it becomes a case of every node acting like a minipool going for a block reward, except they can get a portion of a block rather than all or nothing....still better imo.

Within this environment, we can then choose automatic bitcoin payments from p2pool, where each miner takes the risk, or we can choose a middleman, who takes on the risk for profit. With automatic payments you don't have to trust a node that much, but you still take on the risk of variance yourself. A node operator can set up a hybrid node which offers other services, but charges a 100% pool fee (they control the coins, meaning trust issues). They could still charge an 'effective' 0% fee by distributing all funds received, though...it's just about processing.

A very simple hybrid pool would register all the different addresses people want a payout in, then either pay them out automatically or setup a login system where people can pay out at whim. I set up blisterpool to do the former - people register a bitcoin address and devcoin address pair which was locked in the db - it automatically pays out merged coins plus a bonus in devcoins when a block is found (incentive for testing the unofficial devcoin client, not particularly p2pool related). It's all a lot more work than a few install commands, though, but the option is there for people. I'm considering making it a 100% fee pool (0% effective) and adding this login system with services similar to GHash.io, just to see if it has any value to miners.

The big advantage of p2pool as a backend in this case, is that it allows new, small hybrid pool operators the chance of attracting people based on p2pool's hashing power, instead of trying to solo-mine a bitcoin block itself. P2Pool is still a good thing!
legendary
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Luck can be a bummer sometimes eh? At least your wife is happy  Wink

Haha!
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
Luck can be a bummer sometimes eh? At least your wife is happy  Wink
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P2Pool can blow me after working all day in the hot sun on a day I got up late and didn't time to shower because I was up all night sticking it in the wife's ass.

I don't even mine on ghash, I'm a guild guy, but I tried to be a good bitizen and ran a full node p2pool with 2+Ths for three days and I couldn't buy a fucking can of soda with what it generated.

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I updated the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS guide with precompiled binaries for the merged coins in order to speed up installation.
Of course I still have the instructions if someone wants to compile the files instead.
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3 days without a block...
Even knocking the doorstep of 1PH (back down to 609Th as of this post)and passing 1% of the network, we're still stuck in this dry spell.  

Did someone forget to stick a Satoshi in Lady Luck's garter belt again?  

All these small donation payments are nice and all, but it's long past time for another block. C'mon, Lady Luck, it's time to make it rain.

Makes me wonder if we're being block withheld same as the situation with Eligius. Does anyone know if this is possible given P2Pools structure?

J

It's pretty normal for p2pool to have dry spells, we have such a low percentage of the network hash.  I can't see why someone would bother to attack p2pool.  It's certainly possible for any pool to be attacked, it's at the core nature of pooled mining.
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