Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 679. (Read 2591920 times)
My node in my sig is upgraded to 3.0
P2Pool release 3.0 tag: 3.0 hash: a4cde222d397b47ae5646ca74a8036025d745df8
EDIT: Outdated, go to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.971005
Changes:
* P2Pool will "skip ahead" to building on blocks not yet processed by the local bitcoind based on block headers received from P2Pool peers. This should significantly reduce the number of orphaned blocks we have if everyone upgrades.
* Latency/high CPU usage caused by requesting shares from old nodes is fixed by now not downloading shares more than a day old
This change increments the share version to 3, so once 50% of people upgrade, the rest will be notified by messages on their P2Pool console. So, please upgrade! Note that this isn't a hard fork of the P2Pool chain, so old nodes will continue to work, only spamming the upgrade messages.
EDIT: Outdated, go to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.971005
Changes:
* P2Pool will "skip ahead" to building on blocks not yet processed by the local bitcoind based on block headers received from P2Pool peers. This should significantly reduce the number of orphaned blocks we have if everyone upgrades.
* Latency/high CPU usage caused by requesting shares from old nodes is fixed by now not downloading shares more than a day old
This change increments the share version to 3, so once 50% of people upgrade, the rest will be notified by messages on their P2Pool console. So, please upgrade! Note that this isn't a hard fork of the P2Pool chain, so old nodes will continue to work, only spamming the upgrade messages.
Q: how exactly is calculated expected time to block when block found? Current pool hash rate or some average of time that block was mined?
I`m still not sure that our luck chart is good... If we founding blocks "in time" I`m gettin much more than from any pps pool... For me luck is much higher than 90%
I`m still not sure that our luck chart is good... If we founding blocks "in time" I`m gettin much more than from any pps pool... For me luck is much higher than 90%
What's your average daily earnings and average hashrate for the current difficulty period? If you can tell me that, I'll tell you whether or not you're getting more or less than expected.
I`m taking 0.025 per block or more (even 0.05) from P2pool.
I was mining on 2 pps pools and get about 0.07-0.075 BTC/day.
For me P2pool is best
What are your average daily earnings for the current diff period?
Q: how exactly is calculated expected time to block when block found? Current pool hash rate or some average of time that block was mined?
I`m still not sure that our luck chart is good... If we founding blocks "in time" I`m gettin much more than from any pps pool... For me luck is much higher than 90%
I`m still not sure that our luck chart is good... If we founding blocks "in time" I`m gettin much more than from any pps pool... For me luck is much higher than 90%
What's your average daily earnings and average hashrate for the current difficulty period? If you can tell me that, I'll tell you whether or not you're getting more or less than expected.
I`m taking 0.025 per block or more (even 0.05) from P2pool.
I was mining on 2 pps pools and get about 0.07-0.075 BTC/day.
For me P2pool is best
Q: how exactly is calculated expected time to block when block found? Current pool hash rate or some average of time that block was mined?
I`m still not sure that our luck chart is good... If we founding blocks "in time" I`m gettin much more than from any pps pool... For me luck is much higher than 90%
I`m still not sure that our luck chart is good... If we founding blocks "in time" I`m gettin much more than from any pps pool... For me luck is much higher than 90%
What's your average daily earnings and average hashrate for the current difficulty period? If you can tell me that, I'll tell you whether or not you're getting more or less than expected.
Q: how exactly is calculated expected time to block when block found? Current pool hash rate or some average of time that block was mined?
I`m still not sure that our luck chart is good... If we founding blocks "in time" I`m gettin much more than from any pps pool... For me luck is much higher than 90%
I`m still not sure that our luck chart is good... If we founding blocks "in time" I`m gettin much more than from any pps pool... For me luck is much higher than 90%
Does MtRed ever say what they made, compared to what they paid out?
That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.
-- Smoov
That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.
-- Smoov
BTCGuild recently commented on this.
Some months he makes money some he loses.
-- Smoov
Does MtRed ever say what they made, compared to what they paid out?
That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.
-- Smoov
That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.
-- Smoov
BTCGuild recently commented on this.
Some months he makes money some he loses.
(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)
DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.
BTCGuild is 5%
Does MtRed ever say what they made, compared to what they paid out?
That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.
-- Smoov
That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.
-- Smoov
True, that's a very big downside to PPS.
Thats why I get more form p2pool than any pps Bigger cake to cut
Bigger cake to cut I don't see how, an extra ~.25 per block in tranactions fee's doesn't compensate for the bad luck. I've made much more mining at a MtRed (0% Fee PPS) then I ever did mining at p2pool.
That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.
-- Smoov
Thats why I get more form p2pool than any pps Bigger cake to cut
Bigger cake to cut I don't see how, an extra ~.25 per block in tranactions fee's doesn't compensate for the bad luck. I've made much more mining at a MtRed (0% Fee PPS) then I ever did mining at p2pool.
(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)
DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.
-- Smoov
Bigger cake to cut (though is there any pool that charges 10%?)
DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.
-- Smoov
(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)
DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.
(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)
DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.
The simple answer is, the average number of shares per block difficulty is above expected.
That's all that matters in such calculations.
Hopefully this will or has gone down.
Yes you can add fees into the equation when comparing specific pools, but no there is no general 'fee' calculation for all pools of any type.
You need to state which pool and what exactly the fees are.
(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)
That's all that matters in such calculations.
Hopefully this will or has gone down.
Yes you can add fees into the equation when comparing specific pools, but no there is no general 'fee' calculation for all pools of any type.
You need to state which pool and what exactly the fees are.
(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)
Is there any hope that the new code changes will get the long term luck above 90%? I really like the idea of p2pool, but getting effectively 90% PPS is disappointing. I don't think the pay cut is worth it until the large pools actually start disrupting the network and it seems like claims of Deepbit's evil intentions and such are purely FUD (at least at this point in time).
Following the luck charts will do nothing but increase the confusion when trying to determine the success of p2pool. If you were to base the success of p2pool by the luck charts, you would develop the opinion that p2pool is under-performing. This assumption can be proven invalid by calculating the current equivalent PPS payout and comparing it to the expected value from any Bitcoin calculator that calculates PPS. The equivalent PPS value for P2pool has been above the expected PPS, based on Bitcoins generated per Gigahash, by some 5%-15%. You can say p2pool is doing better than expected and so the luck is good.If the "luck" charts based on round length show greater than expected rounds lengths, and the pool payout is also greater than expected, then one of these is incorrect. You can't have both.
Is there any hope that the new code changes will get the long term luck above 90%? I really like the idea of p2pool, but getting effectively 90% PPS is disappointing. I don't think the pay cut is worth it until the large pools actually start disrupting the network and it seems like claims of Deepbit's evil intentions and such are purely FUD (at least at this point in time).
Following the luck charts will do nothing but increase the confusion when trying to determine the success of p2pool. If you were to base the success of p2pool by the luck charts, you would develop the opinion that p2pool is under-performing. This assumption can be proven invalid by calculating the current equivalent PPS payout and comparing it to the expected value from any Bitcoin calculator that calculates PPS. The equivalent PPS value for P2pool has been above the expected PPS, based on Bitcoins generated per Gigahash, by some 5%-15%. You can say p2pool is doing better than expected and so the luck is good. I really hate to say it, but I'm not going to give it much longer.
Last couple of days have been pretty good for p2pool I think.
Toby.
And.... you killed it.
Lol. Happens everytime.
It's like breaking a mirror 7 more days of bad luck :p
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