[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 745.

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Quote from: Diapolo on March 17, 2012, 09:39:22 AM

Are there known problems with the current p2pool build and the 0.6 RC4 build of the client? I got no share for quite some time, can be bad luck or an undiscovered problem.
I'll let it mine for some time and will report back ...

Dia

Running RC4 without problems for 8+ hours. Everything looks normal.

Still no share, what is your hash-rate?

Dia

Diapolo

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Are there known problems with the current p2pool build and the 0.6 RC4 build of the client? I got no share for quite some time, can be bad luck or an undiscovered problem.
I'll let it mine for some time and will report back ...

Dia

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Quote from: Shadow383 on March 17, 2012, 07:20:29 AM

Strange problem with my P2Pool node.
Everything was running fine, hashrate about 1600Mh/s (600Mh/s of my own hashpower + 1Gh/s of unknown other miners I assume).
I go away for two hours, come back and it takes 20 minutes (!!!) to establish a remote desktop connection to my server. Finally get on and the p2pool window is scrolling so fast I can't read anything, whole system is almost completely unresponsive. Memory usage is about 140MB and CPU Usage is 100%.

Hard reboot vpn, find that bitcoind now refuses to connect.
Have now switched over to 0.5.3.1 and reinstalled everything and p2pool is working again, stable with 2% CPU load and 105MB of memory in use.
Any thoughts?

What does the p2pool log say for the time that it was broken? Hard to diagnose without knowing that. The log is kept in the data/bitcoin/log file under the folder where p2pool is installed, so you can go back and look at it after the fact if you didn't delete it when you reinstalled p2pool.

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Strange problem with my P2Pool node.
Everything was running fine, hashrate about 1600Mh/s (600Mh/s of my own hashpower + 1Gh/s of unknown other miners I assume).
I go away for two hours, come back and it takes 20 minutes (!!!) to establish a remote desktop connection to my server. Finally get on and the p2pool window is scrolling so fast I can't read anything, whole system is almost completely unresponsive. Memory usage is about 140MB and CPU Usage is 100%.

Hard reboot vpn, find that bitcoind now refuses to connect.
Have now switched over to 0.5.3.1 and reinstalled everything and p2pool is working again, stable with 2% CPU load and 105MB of memory in use.
Any thoughts?

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Quote from: naima53 on March 16, 2012, 11:50:43 PM

Quote from: Gabi on March 16, 2012, 05:45:08 PM

Don't blame p2pool for your luck.

Menacing "omg i go to bitclockers" won't change anything, there is no pool operator behind p2pool, so your menace is totally useless. P2pool is open and it is not scamming you.

I'm not barking at the p2pull specifically written in this thread to learn more. If luck is with me personally dropped - then why the speed? is also my speed reduced? (1440->930) Or is it the same? P2pul as always "accumulated" 17000 share and no more than "hoard" (in console), but after restarting it shows "Loading shares 22000)?? What is wrong? Where are the other 5000 my shares?

naima53,

those shares you see loading are not your shares, they are the p2pool shares.

Youre shares are shown in p2pool log

Code:

2012-03-17 09:55:56.765012 Local: 1632MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.2% (0-6%) Expected time to share: 28.8 minutes
2012-03-17 09:55:56.765050 Shares: 307 (17 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~6.2% (3-10%) Efficiency: ~100.2% (96-103%)

This is my main rig, 1.8 GH/s for cgminer, 1632 MH/s for p2pool in last 10.0 minutes.

My shares are those 307 (17 orphan, 2 dead).

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naima53

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In addition, I have translated into Russian subject and added to at least 30Gh to p2pool Cheesy

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/800-ghs-p2pool-62698
two link

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Quote from: Gabi on March 16, 2012, 05:45:08 PM

Don't blame p2pool for your luck.

Menacing "omg i go to bitclockers" won't change anything, there is no pool operator behind p2pool, so your menace is totally useless. P2pool is open and it is not scamming you.

I'm not barking at the p2pull specifically written in this thread to learn more. If luck is with me personally dropped - then why the speed? is also my speed reduced? (1440->930) Or is it the same? P2pul as always "accumulated" 17000 share and no more than "hoard" (in console), but after restarting it shows "Loading shares 22000)?? What is wrong? Where are the other 5000 my shares?

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Quote from: kano on March 16, 2012, 11:28:27 PM

So why isn't it?

I wouldn't presume to know. All that matters to me is that I can change it to any value I want.

Oh OK, I misunderstood that it had to be between 0 and 100 inclusive.

That's good to know maybe I could make a deal with forrestv that if I set it to 1000 he'd pay me half

... or even set it to -100 ...

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Quote from: kano on March 16, 2012, 07:39:11 PM

And I will point out well in advance that is a rigged question and answering it will most likely entrap yourself.

Nice.

Quote from: kano on March 16, 2012, 07:39:11 PM

So, what would be the issue with having it default to 0 ?

Nothing.

So why isn't it?

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Quote from: echris1 on March 16, 2012, 08:03:42 PM

Hey Kano, just wanted to say thanks for your sig, I have been looking for a prop calculator for a long time. As far as I understand it this should be fairly accurate with P2Pool as well right?

It's really just a 'what you should get' calculator.
Even I use it to avoid having to do the calculations all the time

I guess I should rename it an "expected payment" calculator and reword it appropriately Tongue

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Hey Kano, just wanted to say thanks for your sig, I have been looking for a prop calculator for a long time. As far as I understand it this should be fairly accurate with P2Pool as well right?

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So, what would be the issue with having it default to 0 ?
And I will point out well in advance that is a rigged question and answering it will most likely entrap yourself.

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Quote from: TheHarbinger on March 16, 2012, 06:36:19 PM

Fixed.

Hehe. I don't see why people make such a big deal about the default voluntary donation. I was just in a discussion where someone equated it to a mandatory fee as seen in other pools. I can disable this voluntary donation any time I want and continue to use P2Pool! Simply awesome.

I've left the donation at the default setting on my P2Pool nodes. forrestv easily deserves it.

I agree. Lots of pools have optional donations that default to being enabled at some amount (often 0.5%, even). I don't see this as different.

Sometimes I hear it argued that with those other pools it's more obvious because you can see it in a web page. I think that is B.S. The optional donation for p2pool is not any less visible than any other setting. The mechanism for telling other pools what your settings are is a web page. The mechanism for telling p2pool what your settings are is the command line. The default donation command line option is clearly documented right there next to the command line option to choose your payment address, and to the options to specify your bitcoind hostname, username, and password.

If you want to use p2pool, the reality is that you should be comfortable with the command line. If you want to argue that that is not ideal, fine. A GUI wrapper to p2pool might be a good thing to create. But I think it is disingenuous to single out the donation command line option as somehow more obscure than any of the other command line options.

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Quote from: kano on March 16, 2012, 06:29:01 PM

Quote from: Gabi on March 16, 2012, 05:45:08 PM

Don't blame p2pool for your luck.

Menacing "omg i go to bitclockers" won't change anything, there is no pool operator behind p2pool, so your menace is totally useless. P2pool is open and it is not scamming you.

Yes anyone can easily verify that statement is 99.5% correct Cheesy

Author != operator. Thanks for playing. Here, I'll give you a consolation prize. --give-author 100

Fixed.

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Quote from: Gabi on March 16, 2012, 05:45:08 PM

Don't blame p2pool for your luck.

Menacing "omg i go to bitclockers" won't change anything, there is no pool operator behind p2pool, so your menace is totally useless. P2pool is open and it is not scamming you.

Yes anyone can easily verify that statement is 99.5% correct Cheesy

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Don't blame p2pool for your luck.

Menacing "omg i go to bitclockers" won't change anything, there is no pool operator behind p2pool, so your menace is totally useless. P2pool is open and it is not scamming you.

naima53

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Quote from: naima53 on March 16, 2012, 09:37:51 AM

sorry for the stupid question but only I have a reduced speed? and reduced payments ... Usually, it was 0.2 .... 0.24 for the

strange ... rate continues to fall .. 913 have already... I am forced to move to http://bitclockers.com/ Angry

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Quote from: Shadow383 on March 16, 2012, 02:56:12 AM

Quote from: echris1 on March 16, 2012, 02:41:13 AM

So, I understand variance and all, but is it normal for me to have 3 hour stretches with no p2pool shares found with 2.4 GH/s and expected time to share of 20 minutes?

I have incoming peers, Local hashrate is also about right, local dead on arrival are about 1-2%, efficiency is usually right around 100% or higher.

Is there something off somewhere or is this just variance again?

My node was getting all your luck! Tongue

I couldn't run my miners for most of yesterday, but had someone mining on it at about 500Mhash/s for most of the day and they found 6 shares in the time it took me to go for lunch Grin

In all seriousness though, if what you describe's happened for a few days in a row, I'd be really concerned. If it's one day, meh, probably really bad variance.

It seems to be doing much better today. I updated bitcoind to .6rc3, git pulled p2pool (done every other day or so anyway), and rebooted. Steady day of running and shares looking much better, no more gaps.

Payout and forum sig are finally about right (yeah, I know they aren't accurate, but it is right now)

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sorry for the stupid question but only I have a reduced speed? and reduced payments ... Usually, it was 0.2 .... 0.24 for the decision and the last 24 hours - 0.15 0.18 .. Why? I restarted the system - the same result. (I have 4 5850 300 \ 850MHz cgminer 2.2.1 flags: -I 8 -g 1 -k phatk -v 2 --submit-stale win7 x64 driver 11.11)
0.2...0.24 is normal speed??
http://blockchain.info/address/1FDAAiy51sQHHRZ6caG2G8aYujnLzsQ2h9

And now speed 1050 instead of 1440 Sad

http://p2pool.info/ "ActiveUsers" - Search in page - "q2h9" = it`s me Cheesy

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Quote from: Ente on March 16, 2012, 09:00:52 AM

A "hard fork" is, practically, just an update to a new version of p2pool. So most miners wont see any problem in that.

And, if we all switch to the new version/chain/fork at the same time, we wouldnt receive less per found block, since we all begin at zero.

New miners joining p2pool would of course cry out "I have 1gh, found three shares, the pool got a block but I only got a few cents, scam!!". If people constantly ask why they dont get paid out even though they found 100 shares [diff 1, that is], start explaining them that it takes days, weeks to have a steady income per block.. ;-)

Anyway, sounds good to me, I would do either way, 24h-averages or 7d-averages.

Ente

Ente,

I think it is less of a problem knowing that it takes a few days before your payouts reach their correct and stable level than having payouts swinging up and down, and, most of all, being in a personal unlucky period while the pool as a whole is in a lucky one.

spiccioli.

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