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Quote from: thefix on April 20, 2019, 03:01:47 PM

I have one EVGA GTX 1660 TI single fan model and I am thinking about picking up a couple more, I was thinking about the 1660 model but I do like the idea of having faster memory bandwidth for those algos that require it. Do you guys like the two fan models or do you find the single fan models to be adequate for your cooling and overclock needs?

That 3-slot EVGA 1 fan editions are great for mining and cool enough. But the resale value of 2 or 3 fan cards are higher, because its more the style of "Gamers". Also every blinki LED shit is a good bonus on top.

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I have one EVGA GTX 1660 TI single fan model and I am thinking about picking up a couple more, I was thinking about the 1660 model but I do like the idea of having faster memory bandwidth for those algos that require it. Do you guys like the two fan models or do you find the single fan models to be adequate for your cooling and overclock needs?

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Quote from: Metroid on April 19, 2019, 08:05:39 PM

Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 07:47:58 PM

Quote from: Metroid on April 19, 2019, 07:46:22 PM

Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 07:19:13 PM

Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

It will soon not be able to mine Ethash; and its resale value is significantly less.

https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size

4gb 17/DEC/2020

eth will move to progpow which will already turn it useless x nvidia. AMD cards will move to other coins example, monero which at moment gives the same value as mining eth and memory wise will never die off as monero can be mined with less than 1gb memory.

4gb GPUs have less resale value than 8gb.

Yes progpow will make AMD useless for ETH as well.

Which is why I told you earier:

Quote from: fullzero on April 18, 2019, 07:43:42 PM

If you really only want to mine XMR; sure get an AMD GPU.

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Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 07:47:58 PM

Quote from: Metroid on April 19, 2019, 07:46:22 PM

Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 07:19:13 PM

Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

It will soon not be able to mine Ethash; and its resale value is significantly less.

https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size

4gb 17/DEC/2020

eth will move to progpow which will already turn it useless x nvidia. AMD cards will move to other coins example, monero which at moment gives the same value as mining eth and memory wise will never die off as monero can be mined with less than 1gb memory.

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Quote from: Metroid on April 19, 2019, 07:46:22 PM

Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 07:19:13 PM

Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

It will soon not be able to mine Ethash; and its resale value is significantly less.

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Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 07:19:13 PM

Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

A 4GB has no difference on hashrate.

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Quote from: Metroid on April 19, 2019, 07:14:09 PM

Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 07:09:55 PM

Quote from: Metroid on April 19, 2019, 04:09:13 PM

If somebody can't find a new rx 570 for $100 then is their fault, it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.

Show me one link with an rx570 8gb or rx580 8gb for anywhere near $100 new.

As per my post, " it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.".

https://wccftech.com/score-a-sapphire-radeon-rx-570-4gb-right-now-for-only-99/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdUAecssqAg
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a7i5so/is_this_worth_it_sub_100usd_brand_new_rx_470_4gb/

Those are 4gb.

Even if they were 8gb; you can't use old prices to justify your reasoning.

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Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 07:09:55 PM

Quote from: Metroid on April 19, 2019, 04:09:13 PM

If somebody can't find a new rx 570 for $100 then is their fault, it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.

Show me one link with an rx570 8gb or rx580 8gb for anywhere near $100 new.

As per my post, " it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.".

https://wccftech.com/score-a-sapphire-radeon-rx-570-4gb-right-now-for-only-99/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdUAecssqAg
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a7i5so/is_this_worth_it_sub_100usd_brand_new_rx_470_4gb/

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Quote from: WickedPigeon on April 19, 2019, 04:27:09 PM

Made a couple of adjustments:
Those 1660TI are looking really, really good...

And while some get better results at lower PL ratings, over a longer average, with my rigs, I find these numbers close to my averages - on the GPUs I have, 1070, 1070TI and 1660TI.

And yes, tuning your rigs can gain you 5-10% improvement on ROI. Also, I strongly recommend looking at your Electric bill. I live in Chicago and changed from Com Ed's "fixed rate" to "daily live pricing" and over the past year have saved about 16% - literately thousands of dollars.

I find 106 watt powerlimit, 100 OC core clock and 500 OC memory clock is best over time for 1660 or 1660ti or 1070 or P106-100.

I strongly suggest you get a 1660; it performs almost identically to the 1660ti with RVN and costs $60 less.

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Quote from: Metroid on April 19, 2019, 04:09:13 PM

If somebody can't find a new rx 570 for $100 then is their fault, it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.

Show me one link with an rx570 8gb or rx580 8gb for anywhere near $100 new.

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Quote from: joseph32 on April 19, 2019, 03:59:56 PM

But buying 2nd hand cards is high risk and pure gamble. You can get broken parts, or simply nothing. And this will drop your profits massively.

I prefer buying new GPUs myself.

Buying used GPUs is not a pure gamble when you know the person you're buying from.

Newbie accounts with no trust; or eBay sellers posting a single pic for 150 GPUs: yes that is high risk.

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Made a couple of adjustments:
Those 1660TI are looking really, really good...

And while some get better results at lower PL ratings, over a longer average, with my rigs, I find these numbers close to my averages - on the GPUs I have, 1070, 1070TI and 1660TI.

And yes, tuning your rigs can gain you 5-10% improvement on ROI. Also, I strongly recommend looking at your Electric bill. I live in Chicago and changed from Com Ed's "fixed rate" to "daily live pricing" and over the past year have saved about 16% - literately thousands of dollars.

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If somebody can't find a new rx 570 for $100 then is their fault, it was sold in retail stores for a long time at that price.

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But buying 2nd hand cards is high risk and pure gamble. You can get broken parts, or simply nothing. And this will drop your profits massively.

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Quote from: fullzero on April 19, 2019, 08:52:00 AM

Quote from: Metroid on April 18, 2019, 09:06:57 PM

Quote from: fullzero on April 18, 2019, 08:26:37 PM

Show me the numbers for how AMD polaris has the best price performance.

https://whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=30&p=130&fee=2&cost=0.1&hcost=100&commit=Calculate

Using your numbers with whattomine I get the following:

1x rx580 8gb daily return mining Ethash @ 130 watts:
$0.46 revenue
$0.14 profit

1x 1660 or 1660ti or 1070 or P106-100 daily return mining RVN @ 106 watts:
$0.64 revenue
$0.38 profit

Used P106-100 are the same price as used Rx580 8gb; its a no brainer: over 2x profit and way more mineable algos.

New rx580 8gb are $180 lowest I can find. The second you buy this, its resale value is $100.

New 1660s are $220 and its resale value is $200 at worst; its a no brainer.

That's the big issue (bolded), rx cards are so flooded on the second hand market, I could hardly even sell a like new rx470, they're not even worth $100 these days lol -- and this point is profits aside

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Quote from: Metroid on April 18, 2019, 09:06:57 PM

Quote from: fullzero on April 18, 2019, 08:26:37 PM

Show me the numbers for how AMD polaris has the best price performance.

https://whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=30&p=130&fee=2&cost=0.1&hcost=100&commit=Calculate

Using your numbers with whattomine I get the following:

1x rx580 8gb daily return mining Ethash @ 130 watts:
$0.46 revenue
$0.14 profit

1x 1660 or 1660ti or 1070 or P106-100 daily return mining RVN @ 106 watts:
$0.64 revenue
$0.38 profit

Used P106-100 are the same price as used Rx580 8gb; its a no brainer: over 2x profit and way more mineable algos.

New rx580 8gb are $180 lowest I can find. The second you buy this, its resale value is $100.

New 1660s are $220 and its resale value is $200 at worst; its a no brainer.

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Quote from: fullzero on April 18, 2019, 08:26:37 PM

Show me the numbers for how AMD polaris has the best price performance.

https://whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=30&p=130&fee=2&cost=0.1&hcost=100&commit=Calculate

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Quote from: Metroid on April 18, 2019, 08:19:12 PM

Quote from: fullzero on April 18, 2019, 07:43:42 PM

Quote from: Metroid on April 18, 2019, 07:28:20 PM

Quote from: fullzero on March 18, 2019, 11:21:19 AM

1660ti does 507 H/s with XMR and 30+ MH/s using 60-70 watts for Ethash.

Even if it does that, a rx 570 can be bought for $100 and the 1660ti is around $350. What the hell.

The 1660 is $220.

The 1660ti is $279.

Avoid bullshit variants or paying for markup.

A 2060 is $350.

A P106-100 is around $100 if you are looking for cheap used GPUs.

There isn't a point in mining ETH right now, better off mining another coin and exchanging it into ETH if you want to accumulate it.

If you really only want to mine XMR; sure get an AMD GPU.

You talk as if there is a choice for amd miners. Every website says eth still the most profitable popular coin using amd gpus. Now if you say nvidia users then I agree with you and already posted many times if mining with a nvidia gpu then there is no point even thinking about eth but the funny thing is you posted the 1660ti hashrate for xmr and eth as it made any sense using it to mine them.

And by the way saying "1600 series Nvidia GPUs are significantly better than everything else. )" is also a misleading title, amd polaris still the best price performance and if you meant that is better in the sense of being better than everything else then where does the 2080ti stay? So one or the other way you are deluding yourself or the people or both with that statement.

Your taking a single line out of context.

Quote from: fullzero on March 18, 2019, 11:21:19 AM

Quote from: Xazax310 on March 16, 2019, 03:11:16 PM

agreed that both the 1660 and 1660ti are excellent mining cards, at least for everything but Ethereum/XMR. They do OK in ethereum AMDs still hold XMR throne. I doubt we'll see anything better than 1660ti. I assumed something was in the works as nvidias "Mining GPU" however the crash left a sour note in there mouths. Doubt we'll ever see mining GPU from nvidia again.

1660ti does 507 H/s with XMR and 30+ MH/s using 60-70 watts for Ethash.

It was never a good idea to use the nerfed GPUs that were targeted for mining. It is always better to retain the possibility of reselling GPUs to gamers in the future. This is the best aspect of the 1660s, or 1660tis as they are mainstream Gaming GPUs.

Nvidia's stock price only took a dive with the release of the RTX 2000 series GPUs. As Ray tracing is generally held to be irrelevant to gamers and is useless for miners; the 1600 series should resolve this problem.

Show me the numbers for how AMD polaris has the best price performance.

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Quote from: fullzero on April 18, 2019, 07:43:42 PM

Quote from: Metroid on April 18, 2019, 07:28:20 PM

Quote from: fullzero on March 18, 2019, 11:21:19 AM

1660ti does 507 H/s with XMR and 30+ MH/s using 60-70 watts for Ethash.

Even if it does that, a rx 570 can be bought for $100 and the 1660ti is around $350. What the hell.

The 1660 is $220.

The 1660ti is $279.

Avoid bullshit variants or paying for markup.

A 2060 is $350.

A P106-100 is around $100 if you are looking for cheap used GPUs.

There isn't a point in mining ETH right now, better off mining another coin and exchanging it into ETH if you want to accumulate it.

If you really only want to mine XMR; sure get an AMD GPU.

You talk as if there is a choice for amd miners. Every website says eth still the most profitable popular coin using amd gpus. Now if you say nvidia users then I agree with you and already posted many times if mining with a nvidia gpu then there is no point even thinking about eth but the funny thing is you posted the 1660ti hashrate for xmr and eth as it made any sense using it to mine them.

And by the way saying "1600 series Nvidia GPUs are significantly better than everything else. )" is also a misleading title, amd polaris still the best price performance and if you meant that is better in the sense of being better than everything else then where does the 2080ti stay? So one or the other way you are deluding yourself or the people or both with that statement.

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Quote from: Metroid on April 18, 2019, 07:28:20 PM

Quote from: fullzero on March 18, 2019, 11:21:19 AM

1660ti does 507 H/s with XMR and 30+ MH/s using 60-70 watts for Ethash.

Even if it does that, a rx 570 can be bought for $100 and the 1660ti is around $350. What the hell.

The 1660 is $220.

The 1660ti is $279.

Avoid bullshit variants or paying for markup.

A 2060 is $350.

A P106-100 is around $100 if you are looking for cheap used GPUs.

There isn't a point in mining ETH right now, better off mining another coin and exchanging it into ETH if you want to accumulate it.

If you really only want to mine XMR; sure get an AMD GPU.

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