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Topic: 16GH/s - BeagleBone ASIC cape (4 BFL ASICs) - Interest check - page 2. (Read 3541 times)

legendary
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Merit: 1000
When you have something that is 100% functional and available to ship, I would consider it.
I would keep the price as low as possible. A lot of people will want to kick the tires before committing to any purchases.
member
Activity: 97
Merit: 10
And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.

Not this guy. Inform me of your milestones, release periodic updates, talk about anticipated risks, tell me about the issues when those risks materialize, succinctly articulate any schedule slips along with a brief explanation, and ultimately deliver the product. I don't need any fancy pictures, or unrealistic stakes on the ground, BFL-style drama, just some good old fashioned honest business talk and product. Reiterating I am interested in acquiring multiple 16 GHs units at your 1K price. I saw 900 somewhere on the thread. That's obviously good too. Make it happen. Best of luck. I will be waiting.
legendary
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I'd be interested in the units if they were like 6-700 bucks for the advertised 16 gh/s.  What is the projected chip size in nm?  Will there be a power supply or opt out option available?  Will this ship from within the USA? 
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design.  That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either.  And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out.

This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.



Vapour chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules, yet your own project depends on Butterfly Labs' ability to deliver your bulk chips on time!? Ohhhkay...good luck with that!! Roll Eyes

Global foundries meeting their delivery schedule isn't the biggest risk by a long shot. Getting a functional PCB and integrating a finished product isn't a trivial endeavor by any means. We have some serious competitive advantages with our design where the miner software has direct SPI access to the ASICs, so I expect we will squeeze out even more performance than the reference design. Plus we will have adjustable clocks and voltages in our design. Honestly even if BFL delivered the chips tomorrow we would still be looking at October delivery.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design.  That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either.  And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out.

This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.



Vapour chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules, yet your own project depends on Butterfly Labs' ability to deliver your bulk chips on time!? Ohhhkay...good luck with that!! Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

lucko's pricing is in Euros and he is depending on the community to come up with a working board design.  That product won't likely include a power supply or heatsink either.  And you still have to add the cost of the chips. And thats an ideal pricing based on volume, which so far he doesn't have enough chips in his group buy to even get to 100 boards. Plus the chips could easily get caught up in customs in Slovenia, and there will be costs to get them out.

This is a very different offering as it will be a complete product. I'm not sure that its economically viable as BFL's chips are still expensive, and require a fairly complex PCB. The thing is that the project is firmly grounded in reality, with realistic lead times for the boards and components. And that's not what this community likes to spend money on - you guys prefer fancy renderings, vapor chips, and unrealistic delivery schedules.

legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1080
Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass

Who is this lucko guy and do you have a link to his thread (if any)?

legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 1004
Is still a lot expensive lucko will make board for only 200 dollars sorry I will pass
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Price without chips how it will cost? Where you located

We're in the USA, you would be able to take $200 off for supplying your own chips (if we make that an option). It's logistically a pain though. 

Chip credits would be accepted (up to the number of chips required to fill your order).

At QTY 100 its looking like it would cost $900
At QTY 1000 we can get down to $650
member
Activity: 97
Merit: 10
$1000 for 16 GH/s Complete turnkey? You supply the chips? October delivery?

If yes to the three questions, then I am definitely interested in multiple units.

A slip in delivery beyond October will most likely be a deal breaker.

legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
Pricing for the complete system would be somewhere between $500-$1000, depending on how many units are committed for the first run.

Any interest?
For $500? Yep! For $1000? Mmmm not so much.

And yes, as other have asked, will there be a discount for supplying our own chips?
sr. member
Activity: 333
Merit: 250
Interested.  Being able to apply our own BFL chip codes towards a unit would be a big plus.


full member
Activity: 213
Merit: 100
100% interested. Have A LOT of chip codes to provide group buy aggregate savings.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
I have 1152 chip codes to sell if you need them.
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 1004
Price without chips how it will cost? Where you located
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
As you may or may not know we're currently shipping BeagleBone Black based mining hosts, the MineNinja.

I'm considering developing an add-on board for the BeagleBone (known as a "cape" in Beagleease) that would contain 4 BFL ASICs.  It would use the BeagleBone to control the ASICs via SPI, and would also run MineNinja, so it would be a turn-key, no host needed mining solution.  Realistically we would be able to get these built and be ready to ship at the beginning of October. Pricing for the complete system would be somewhere between $500-$1000, depending on how many units are committed for the first run.

Any interest?

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