Topic: 1984, BY George Orwell (Read 2731 times)
"It is easier to fool people than to convince people they have been fooled." -Mark Twain
Think the subtle hand works better than the physical hand if you are wanting to drive a agenda home.
Lot of people are unable to think on a level that would be needed to see that they are being manipulated towards a desired outcome. Slowly pushing towards the end game and people may wake up to it well they are being pushed off the cliff or they may just except that fate by then.
Lot of people are unable to think on a level that would be needed to see that they are being manipulated towards a desired outcome. Slowly pushing towards the end game and people may wake up to it well they are being pushed off the cliff or they may just except that fate by then.
It's one of the most perfectly conceived and executed books ever. The prescience is a sad comment on those pesky humans.
Yeah... reminds me of some pirate parties slogan... something like "1984 was not a tutorial" or so.Well... if people would care more about that topic than the pirate party, which seems to me the first real worldwide party, would be in power in no time.
It's one of the most perfectly conceived and executed books ever. The prescience is a sad comment on those pesky humans.
What Aldous Huxley author of Brave New World had to say about this book:
"Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience."
Its interesting I think we get a bit of both books in todays culture.
"Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience."
Its interesting I think we get a bit of both books in todays culture.
However, even if conditioning is continued, generally it weakens enough and finally fails over time.
Some of the best conditioning is done by violent converting to Islam, which uses Stockholm syndrome. But even this doesn't always last.
What Aldous Huxley author of Brave New World had to say about this book:
"Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience."
Its interesting I think we get a bit of both books in todays culture.
"Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience."
Its interesting I think we get a bit of both books in todays culture.
I have read Animal Farm from this writer and it was an excellent satire on communism.
Have you ever thought if North Korea attacked to Japan or USA what will happen?Will there be any country supporting North Korea?
I write in public that i support isis and nobody arrest me! lol Where is the orwellian state? lol lol
http://i65.tinypic.com/euj59i.jpg
Just kidding, found this image on internet
I don't see the joke here. There are numerous people who support ISIS in my area. Nobody can do anything. FBI also can't do any shit about that. USA is well known for supporting terror focuses. This is hypocrisy. Orwell showed that hypocrisy in his books, too.
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1984 was an interesting novel about the end result of what happens when we go down a slipperly slope of fear and censorship.
Applied to the real world we do see examples of Big Brother and rebels the Snowden leaks and Assange ones.
As well as slippery slopes in the idea of trigger warnings and hate speech being censored to stifle any non-mainstream discussion.
We live in Orwelian times but the preface of the book demonstrates one possible dystopian future if we do not balance caution and aggressive defending of liberty.
Applied to the real world we do see examples of Big Brother and rebels the Snowden leaks and Assange ones.
As well as slippery slopes in the idea of trigger warnings and hate speech being censored to stifle any non-mainstream discussion.
We live in Orwelian times but the preface of the book demonstrates one possible dystopian future if we do not balance caution and aggressive defending of liberty.
whether you believe in all the story 1984 by George Orwell, in my opinion a world war III would occur if the world can't win against ISIS, al-qaeda,ISIL.
One of the main points of the book was that by using the threat of enemies as an excuse, a government can justify the surveillance of everyone. We may not have two way TV's yet, but there are various 'anti terror' laws which legitimize collection of on line data (which obviously didn't exist when he wrote the book), phone records, travel etc.
The "Two Minute Hate" seems to be fairly widely adopted tho, but Orwell didn't dream that up, he probably knew of it from WW1 references.
When you read the book, remember that Orwell led a similar existence to Winston Smith, a cog in the propaganda wheel of the British Government/BBC during WWII.
whether you believe in all the story 1984 by George Orwell, in my opinion a world war III would occur if the world can't win against ISIS, al-qaeda,ISIL.
Orwell, and many others, free - http://www.luminist.org/archives/.
EDIT: Sorry, either they took Orwell's books out for some reason, or else I was thinking of H.G. Wells.
EDIT: Sorry, either they took Orwell's books out for some reason, or else I was thinking of H.G. Wells.
Either way thank you for this link,a interesting collection and I have not read many of them.
Looks like some of this will be over my head but if you do not swing for the fences you never get there right?
The list is slowly growing.
Orwell, and many others, free - http://www.luminist.org/archives/.
EDIT: Sorry, either they took Orwell's books out for some reason, or else I was thinking of H.G. Wells.
EDIT: Sorry, either they took Orwell's books out for some reason, or else I was thinking of H.G. Wells.
Either way thank you for this link,a interesting collection and I have not read many of them.
Looks like some of this will be over my head but if you do not swing for the fences you never get there right?
Orwell, and many others, free - http://www.luminist.org/archives/.
EDIT: Sorry, either they took Orwell's books out for some reason, or else I was thinking of H.G. Wells.
EDIT: Sorry, either they took Orwell's books out for some reason, or else I was thinking of H.G. Wells.
I think it is amazing how he predicted electronic spying in an age when television was a relatively new invention. He was definitely a visionary.
The difference is, in the book, government did it to the people. In reality, the people are doing it to themselves with their cellphone cameras.
1984 is very realistic novel.As in the novel 'liberity' is loosing its place to 'slavery' with an accelerating speed.About 3rd world war, for me the thirld world war had already taken place in Korea.How do you define a world war?
every book george orwell writes is truthful. Keeping the Astrits flying and the Road to Wagon Pier are my two favourite books of his.Its kind of crazy that I read 1984 but never read anything else by him,what the hell is wrong with me!
Thanks for the tips will read those this summer.
1984 is very realistic novel.As in the novel 'liberity' is loosing its place to 'slavery' with an accelerating speed.About 3rd world war, for me the thirld world war had already taken place in Korea.How do you define a world war?
every book george orwell writes is truthful. Keeping the Astrits flying and the Road to Wagon Pier are my two favourite books of his.Its kind of crazy that I read 1984 but never read anything else by him,what the hell is wrong with me!
Thanks for the tips will read those this summer.
1984 is very realistic novel.As in the novel 'liberity' is loosing its place to 'slavery' with an accelerating speed.About 3rd world war, for me the thirld world war had already taken place in Korea.How do you define a world war?
every book george orwell writes is truthful. Keeping the Astrits flying and the Road to Wagon Pier are my two favourite books of his. I write in public that i support isis and nobody arrest me! lol Where is the orwellian state? lol lol
Just kidding, found this image on internet
Would be funny to read of an arrest of some arrested terror helper from an ominous underground forum named bitcointalk where the famous hackercurrency bitcoin is used.
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