19Million MOON Stolen Just now from my wallet--WARNING

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legendary

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Quote from: samysamy1 on January 25, 2014, 06:23:17 PM

OK wait I don't get it guys. You recommend the use of a VM but at the same time it is said to ignore wallets that clearly show to have a virus cos it's part of the wallet? How can we find out the difference?

I do remember that the Mooncoin wallet was a mess and had Doge on it. The developer was desperately looking quickly for someone to fix the wallet.

I cannot find a way around this bit. One of the experts on here said some antivirus programs flag all wallets as viruses because they have mining code in them. I cannot work out how to be sure there is no virus in them if the scanner always says there is a virus.

In addition, I have been considering using one of the bitcoin blockchain downloads offered in a zip file by some websites. Can this be infected and is there any way to check besides scanning with standard antivirus software.

SenorHombre

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this world is not getting any simpler :-) Got alot of headache today. I hope everything will be fine.

I deleted the mooncoin wallet. all should be fine. but maybe I can improve it in the future. The day needs more like 48h or something

samysamy1

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OK wait I don't get it guys. You recommend the use of a VM but at the same time it is said to ignore wallets that clearly show to have a virus cos it's part of the wallet? How can we find out the difference?

I do remember that the Mooncoin wallet was a mess and had Doge on it. The developer was desperately looking quickly for someone to fix the wallet.

SenorHombre

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thanks alot. I will figure this out tomorrow. Its always good to learn something new.

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Quote from: SenorHombre on January 25, 2014, 05:57:21 PM

Okay, I got it partially.

But still would have the problem that the wallets would be infected so I would need to get all my wallet keys out and leave the rest?

Secondly, my system will be way slower when I am using virtual machine?

Its probably I good idea, so I could get familiar to linux. Since I use win 7 but I think for some purposes it is good to know linux.

So if I run virtual box I can use to operating system at once. this also means my computer will be slower? also in mining etc?

But I always can stop virtual box and only use it when I need it.

Is there a good way to check my computer for virus or malware or whatever there is out?

Or is simply antivir, spybot and windows firewall enoug?

sorry for bothering you, but i think its good if I know this and get familiar to these points

You can link a virtual machine to a usb thumb drive and save your wallet dat on that if the machine gets infected. Afterwards you can scan the usb stick to remove any viruses and copy the wallet dat onto your real computer.

There is a virus that can infect usb sticks and travel between computers using them called the conficker virus. You can stop it using the software linked to below. However, the software disables auto run functionality on any usb stick you use it on. Therefore you have to open the usb stick drive folder yourself.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/panda_usb_and_autorun_vaccine.html

Windows firewall used to be crap. The best one to use depends on how well you know how to configure a particular frewall and how many firewall pop ups asking if it is OK to let a program access the internet you are willing to put up with. Some firewalls decide for themselves and others can be set to ask you every time something wants to get through to the internet.

SenorHombre

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Okay, I got it partially.

But still would have the problem that the wallets would be infected so I would need to get all my wallet keys out and leave the rest?

Secondly, my system will be way slower when I am using virtual machine?

Its probably I good idea, so I could get familiar to linux. Since I use win 7 but I think for some purposes it is good to know linux.

So if I run virtual box I can use to operating system at once. this also means my computer will be slower? also in mining etc?

But I always can stop virtual box and only use it when I need it.

Is there a good way to check my computer for virus or malware or whatever there is out?

Or is simply antivir, spybot and windows firewall enoug?

sorry for bothering you, but i think its good if I know this and get familiar to these points

YourMine.org

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Sorry you had your moon stolen, here is just an idea, not saying it will work but it might, google is such a clever beast these days you would be surprised at how it keeps a record of every single page on the web & whats on that page, now if this person who stole your coin has posted in a forum somewhere on a giveaway with that wallet address then that address will be stored, search it in google you might just get revenge.
Just an idea.

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Quote from: SenorHombre on January 25, 2014, 05:40:22 PM

https://www.virtualbox.org/ --> free

http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/player/ --> not free

as I understand.

can you explain me a bit what virtual machine is and what it is doing exactly?

thanks I really appreciate this

At the bottom of the webpage linked to it says VMware is free for personal use but not for commercial use (as shown below).

A virtual machine is like a computer program that pretends to be whole physical computer. You can install any operating system you like into it and run it on top of your real operating system. The VM puts whole operating system into one giant file and if it gets infected with a virus you an just delete the file without it infecting your real operating system.

SenorHombre

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just reading about it. maybe you can summarize it a bit in easy understandable words.

I am trying to get all of this but would help if I get a small basic instruction

thanks

SenorHombre

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https://www.virtualbox.org/ --> free

http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/player/ --> not free

as I understand.

can you explain me a bit what virtual machine is and what it is doing exactly?

thanks I really appreciate this

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Quote from: SenorHombre on January 25, 2014, 05:32:00 PM

I deleted the wallet moonshit. Why are they implementing a key stealer... please inform me if something else happen since 200 usd of coins are lot of me and maybe month worth or more.

I got win 7 64 bit

which virtual machine MV can I use?

Either of the two linked to below are free. They take a bit of getting used to but after some practice they are easy to use. I found vmware easier to use but that's just my personal preference.

https://www.virtualbox.org/

http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/player/

SenorHombre

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yes is there any freeware. I dont have such amount of money, is more than my computer :-) hehehe

I use antivir and spybot windows firewall and thats it. seems it is not enough anymore. so please inform me what virtual machine do and how to trust and use them

thanks alot

SenorHombre

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I deleted the wallet moonshit. Why are they implementing a key stealer... please inform me if something else happen since 200 usd of coins are lot of me and maybe month worth or more.

I got win 7 64 bit

which virtual machine MV can I use?

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Quote from: FiatKiller on January 08, 2014, 06:38:54 PM

It does emphasize that we all should be checking the executables on virustotal.com as an absolute minimum before getting caught up in the frenzy of not being left out. I agree with the VM also and I have to learn how to use it more. Are there any free ones?

There is virtual box (already mentioned) and vmware (linked to below).

http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/player/

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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG

Quote from: SenorHombre on January 25, 2014, 05:25:02 PM

Bkav W32.HfsAutoA.4a34 20140125
CMC Virus.Win32.Xpaj.1!O 20140122

hey man, got the same shit. what to do. Analysed it and I got the same result

lots of wallets have this, i am not sure how bad it is. We need some security experts on this board really. That xpaj fucker is quite evil i believe it keeps adjusting to bypass virus scanners.

although this is second thing i am hearing related to the moon wallet in the last few days... i'm shredding that shit

Millicent

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Virtual Machine. It's running an operating system instance within a window.

I use VirtualBox inside a Linux box.

SenorHombre

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Bkav W32.HfsAutoA.4a34 20140125
CMC Virus.Win32.Xpaj.1!O 20140122

hey man, got the same shit. what to do. Analysed it and I got the same result

SenorHombre

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Will people ever learn? Use a VM.

what is VM?

Caiapfas

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How about never get crypto stolen too. Don't download shit, don't install shit that is known, trusted and widely used.

cryptohunter

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all wallets get those 2 .... well a lot of them do

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