Topic: 1hodlclub coins not loaded - page 2. (Read 1446 times)

not recently - just basing it off Ognasty & ChiBit's comments made previously in this post

Not sure what you mean. Was there an incident with these lately?

thanks!

I just wanted to say based upon the prior discussions, I reached out to 1HoDLCLUB directly via the email provided.  I wanted to confirm I got a response within a day and it fully explained the process.

One item I did appreciate, he had provided the following:

"For orders on the website, there's no need to request loading anymore. It is done automatically in batches with other orders for the week of your purchase. The only time you need to contact me regarding loading is if your tracking shows "Delivered," and you haven't received the package."

So, great customer service overall!  I will definitely continue buying his products.

Thanks!

Anyone wanna throw a link to the lealana funding issue? As a newbie, I like to stay informed on my collectible investments.

Still claiming I stole 7 BTC after having the post where I explained that didn’t happen deleted? It is a shame anyone here respects your opinion. If they knew the full extent of your supported extortion of me I suspect they wouldn’t. Just to be clear, I didn’t steal any BTC (or altcoins) from anyone ever. It’s insane how often I have to say that considering there is literally not a single person who claims I stole from them. You’d think someone would have found a single victim if I was a thief.

One of us promotes money laundering, makes false claims, is obsessed with cornering the trust network, & supports extortion attempts; the other safeguarded millions of dollars worth of BTC for this forum, facilitated tens of thousands of BTC worth of trades for users here, donated hundreds of BTC to community projects, and has made hundreds (thousands?) of coins storing BTC for members of this forum without ever having a single funding or hack incident.  It’s crazy that you are criticizing me… Actions matter.

This just proves my point that makers who stick around to speak the truth instead of “locking the topic” are subjected to endless lies and harassment.

I hate going off-topic, but since OgNasty loves spreading shit about me in topics that aren't about me, I sometimes have to. He's been doing this for years!
OgNasty doesn't like me since I didn't pick sides in his year-long feud with Vod, and he really hates me since I called him out on - as theymos calls it - his tacky behaviour when he profited 7BTC from holding Bitcoin forum funds.
When OgNasty says I'm a liar, note the lack of reference link. When I post facts with a links to back it up, that usually quiets him down for a few months again.

How was your week long ban after breaking forum rule 8?

As a native English speaker, you should know the difference between "profited" and "stole".

Really? Everything I did with NastyMining was transparent and honest yet the members you listed as being some of the “best” on the forum have said I run a Ponzi scheme. It’s literally all on the blockchain and exactly what I say it is. You probably think it would be unbelievable for any of these members to bash established members here to run scams with alts and support money laundering. I’m telling you it isn’t unbelievable and me posting the truth when attacked with lies and being lumped into the bad apples as a participant in the drama is exactly why I said saying your piece and not engaging with these members is the only way to save your rep. If MrCryptHodl engages those spreading theories about him scamming, he will end up being criticized the exact same way you criticized my behavior (making the truth clear and refuting lies) in your post. You even say they weren’t always justified, as if any of their attacks were anything but lies, but then admit you don’t even know what the beef was about. Let me make it clear to you. Any “beef” between those members and myself was them saying the project I donated hundreds of BTC and over a decade of my life was a scam or Ponzi scheme. I have zero tolerance for made up lies regardless of if it’s the “best” member of the forum spreading lies or the most mentally ill. A liar is a liar. I hope MrCryptHodl doesn’t turn out to be a liar like LoyceV or TMAN, but as I’ve said previously, after talking with him I wasn’t comfortable buying his loaded collectibles…

He still needs to load the gold #29 ….I sent him the addy.
I need to check about 70 poker chips over the weekend problem a lot of the were gifts.

Trolls will be trolls , assholes will be assholes, as you know I’m neither. I chose my career because I had close family members taken advantage of by FAs after losing their spouse. Always loved finance and saw my calling, to get in to a corrupt industry and make real chsnge/help others, I’ve been doing just that for almost two decades and find it extremely rewarding. I never trolled 1Hodl, Mopar never did, LoyceV (.just being who he is, the best member on this forum and lending a hand), as well as others…simply looking out for the community. Were some people overly aggressive and jumped to conclusions..sure. But it’s easy to disprove haters if you do it graciously.

You and I always have gotten along well but cmon brotha, was Tman a raging lunatic? Fuck yes. But you gave it right back and then when not needed at times IMO.  Same thing why Owl and others. Ilm not saying they were always justified (honestly I don’t even know what it was all about as I just stayed out of it) but you didn’t have to approach things like you did at times (same goes for the others). Your wars on here coulda been over long before they were snd no maker has been at it like that w others before. Hey I get it I’m a hot head, but at times you gotta say f em and move on. No other maker has gotten in to it with the community like you have , not even close (again justifiable at times) and not even with clients or having to do w collectibles, but what do you expect then..it’s like Israel and Palestine. No one wins when both sides can’t move on,  not hating here, I have none for you, we’ve buds for damn near a decade now ( saying this 3 hours b4 my 40th makes me feel stupid old  

No, I would not agree that Lealans has a good reputation anymore, not overall, Refusal to address the key issues (hardly took any shit for that btw), refuses to help past clients with anything at all, despite still an active maker, (I don’t think super highly of Caldwell for the same reason, and others as I’ve been vocal about here before),  I completely snd utterly disagree with your stance about addressing concerns. Am I a troll? Is Krogo? Plenty of us here just need answers from makers at times, once they are provided you’d see me walk away. Otherwise I’ll come at them till the end off their business (see Cold Storage Coins for reference).  

The maker's I’ve held in the highest regard address issues, work with disgruntled customers, understand proving their “innocence”, st times is simply part of running a business,  ( I called out BTCPrnny who wrote me a very kind DM , and seems to be working hard towards transparency and making things right, That’s how a maker with issues should be, and will support him when he makes all right,

This hobby simply needs revamped, something I’ve discussed in depth w Makers like Alpen and Kialara who get that..jump on board is my advice to makers,

OG remember when I posted about “why did all the OG collectors leave”. You mentioned it being because of tolls…i now know why completely…there’s been one scam after another and it keeps going on because people just accept it’.It then forces collectors to cap their collections. After Yogg , someone I considered a very close friend..fucked myself, owl, mbitr, snd Xprim his closest friends on earth over ..that was when I realized everything HAS to change ..or else history will just keep repeating itself

I thought you said he loaded them the other day? or he loaded some and not others? or he loaded none of them?

It’s seems like a lot of the coin makers that are committing feel that there is nothing wrong with not loading even though loading was paid for and several times the coin maker was contacted. Furthermore if a complaint is made after trying to work in out between the two parties doesn’t work. You will be called a cry baby and trouble starter.
All I have asked for the past year plus is to load my coins…..nothing more! Still not completed!!!
That’s all I still want. Why is that to much to ask? Why has he still not done it, and will he ever do it?!?
If he would just say give me 30 or 60 or 90 days….something to put on the calendar that I would get my money back…
How would the other coin makers that are commenting suggest I handle this?
What did I do wrong to have my money held hostage?

You say that, but is it really true?  There's a reason that makers abandon this place.  When you stand up for yourself you end up with negative trust ratings and constant harassment even if you did everything 100% correctly.  Trust me.  I have plenty of first hand experience in this area.  When the bitcointalk trolls come for you, the worst thing you can do is engage them to try and prove your innocence.  You'll end up being harassed in ways you can't imagine by mentally ill people around the globe.  I wish that weren't the case, but so long as we have a compromised default trust network this is the way it will stay.  Right now, it appears MrCryptHodl has only received 1 negative rating from someone I've already removed from my network for being a troll.  So it seems his strategy is working.



Lealana (I guess we won't mention his name) still has a good reputation though, right? Same with 1CryptHodl. I think had Lealana continued addressing what happened publicly here (I know a little bit about this as I was the escrow agent involved) he likely would have been harassed to the point of permanently leaving the forum or at the very least having his reputation tarnished in the trust network as more people discovered what happened.  I address my customers and am always transparent, which results in negative trust ratings for mentioning facts about my collectibles or offending someone (or other completely made up nonsense).  Again, without a valid DT trust network, I would advise other makers to be careful engaging complaining users here as the more of a stage you give them, the more harassment you will receive.  Warranted or not.  

i would also like to comment very briefly on the whole maker story and in no way want to accuse or favor anyone here (because as so often the truth lies somewhere in the middle)
as you all surely know, i've been on the maker side for almost a year with the project Icarus and try to deliver the best possible quality for our community and beyond in terms of our product (cards) but also to be communicative to all interested parties/buyers and of course that takes a lot of time and sometimes also nerves (but hey, that's what we wanted and that's our hobby) - that's why i pay a lot of respect to every maker here
the most important thing is of course to clarify and discuss all inquiries, needs, orders and whatever else has to do with the customer as quickly as possible - this way all ambiguities are resolved by themselves
this is why we at Icarus have decided not to sell preloaded cards and leave it up to our customers to decide whether they want to load the cards themselves or not (in this way we do not create a target for any scammers)
and as far as the authenticity of the various maker products is concerned... to prevent bad/good copies of our own products, we have created an individual and unique auth-key on each of our cards and printed it on the card - there will also be a possibility on our website at some point for our customers to check the authenticity of their own purchased cards using the auth-key

I would respect the long post 1Hodl made a lot more if he hadn’t locked it. If you have nothing to hide, be open and transparent. It’s not only a way to clear things up, but it’s also a way to prove naysayers wrong and shed positive light/vibes on your brand. I also take a bit of offense to the whole “playing detective” part.  By “playing detective” I’ve helped prevent scams, prevented people from being further scammed and held coin makers publicly accountable.. which has resulted in some instances of people regaining assets they paid for but don’t have (even if it’s only at a 40% rate or whatever). I don’t enjoy playing Inspector Gadget, but  it’s something that needs to be done. I appreciate how involved so many got with doing that for these coins, which is not a result of wanting to defame the maker, but people thankfully becoming more aware of the importance of just making sure and acting quickly. One thing we can thank Titan and Yogg for.

I am amazed that makers are still feeling pressure from clients to continue making key generated pieces. Wake the fuck up is all I can say to who fall in that camp. Learn from those who’ve been around for years. Learn from past mistakes, and don’t repeat them. It would seem quite a few don’t understand why schools worldwide teach history. It’s not just trusting the maker with generating keys properly, it’s also to prevent scammers from making fakes and selling them as real /maker funded. (There’s a lot more to this but at a high level).

Anyways I wish for things to get cleared up, people made whole who deserve to be, and the maker prospers going forward (albeit with some changes needing made, including reconsidering not marketing here because the community “asks too many questions”. Physical bitcoins started here on this forum and yeah it’s got its share of assholes, but many just simply mean to look out for others…it comes with the territory.

Lealana had some funding issues once with his coins and refused to address it, which lost him plenty of customers who never forgot, Despite being one of the most highly regarded names in the space. ..Advise against this strategy.

Yes, exactly.  If you know you have loyal customers missing funds, make some effort to reply to messages & fund their coins.  And I was under assumption maker was in country that allows funded coin sales.

I’m not trying to defend his actions. He seems to be taking the legal speak approach though. Casascius set the groundwork when he refused to ship loaded items after being threatened by the powers that be. MrCryptHodl took advantage of that stance to ship unloaded coins and request the user to report when received so the coin could be loaded. Then, when not receiving notice of coins being received, he just went about his business. Not the greatest customer support, but I don’t think he violated any terms. Just poor customer service that happened to benefit him and taking advantage of customer expectations who didn’t read his terms. Would I have done that? No. I would have felt better about this story if he tried to contact users when they didn’t reply that their coin had been received. Was he not worried that coins were being lost in the mail and not reaching customers?

Let's be real... 28% of the coins he's made have never been funded.  Blockchain don't lie.  Either "buyer funded" without the coins being marked as such were common practice, we have a lot of broke mofos in here or there's still a bunch of people who haven't visited the forum in a while to see they need to check their balances.

My main issue is this dude keeps saying people didn't reply that they received their coins, which may be true in some cases, but the OP's issue was he had contacted him when received, asked him to double check at a later date & then got put on the slow burner for funding a month ago due to maker's batch funding & fee BS... come on, if you fuck up, you make it right & you do it within a day or 2 max.

Too bad maker's tldr thread is locked... maybe I would have read his whiny ass rant... customer's fault, somebody else's fault, everyone's hating, blah blah... was that what he said?

It’s a little bit of a bummer to read this. I really liked one of your products but was uncomfortable with the way the loading was being handled and when I tried to buy unloaded I was told it wasn’t an option, leaving me unable to make a purchase. Hearing now that I could’ve bought what I wanted and stiffed you on the loading to get my way but I missed out because I followed the rules is a little bit disappointing.

Lol me too. I will update this post when all the my 1hodlclub stuff is loaded. I wish he would just do it instead of spending his energy talking trash about people that he is holding their bitcoin hostage!!

All your cousins have your back hahaha

Hope you get the rest of your items funded soon!