If this is true, this is a shame, I agree //
Would you share with me (in private better) for me to be able to confront what you say with my point of contact from their team ?
I could understand better and take a wise decision to stop or continue with them (and maybe could I get your money back at the same time)
What do you say ?
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January 16, 2020, 12:17:08 PM
January 16, 2020, 10:03:31 AM
I'm really interested about if 1xbit are scammers or not.
But should we really trust people that critics 1xbit when these same people are obviously "promoting" sportsbet io?
Don't get me wrong here, sportsbet io is a good sportsbetting site I think, but I wonder if people with good and reputable site like these have interest in accusing other new site of scams (because they will lose some business if these site acquire good reputation)
These are only thoughts, no accusations, peace.
But should we really trust people that critics 1xbit when these same people are obviously "promoting" sportsbet io?
Don't get me wrong here, sportsbet io is a good sportsbetting site I think, but I wonder if people with good and reputable site like these have interest in accusing other new site of scams (because they will lose some business if these site acquire good reputation)
These are only thoughts, no accusations, peace.
lol yeah right , BTW sportsbet don't pay people extra to trash talk other sites just so you can know that people who are promoting other sites aren't interested in trashing competitors
here is the email I got from them last June :
Quote
Good Day. We want to inform you, that our company decided to stop any collaboration with you (closing your account). The decision was made after a careful investigation of the situation by our security service. The decision is based on a violation of the Terms and Conditions.
they haven't replied after at all
I was beating them with sportsbetting but they have no right to freeze my money , the max they can do is to ask for my ID then process my withdrawals and prevent me from using the site in the future ( at least with the same ID that I provided )
they don't even have max limits , professionals can bet whatever they want with no limits so defending them for not paying professionals is just stupid
basically they are freerolling the winners : come and lose you are more than welcome but when you win we will freeze your money ( basically everyone is a loser and the site is the only winner )
January 16, 2020, 05:03:48 AM
I see that you promote Cloudbet on your website, a site that contacted me and that my team elected NOT to include in our ranking because on many bad reviews online...
One example of it: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/anhgn4/cloudbet_is_scam_they_are_not_paying_for_winning/
So you are right and I'm wrong ? the opposite ?
I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle
Would you mind giving a little bit more details about the last scam case of 500mBTC ? I could try to talk to my contact there (anastasiya) and push it to know better what happen from their POV ?
Not that I want to defend them, more that I want to confront them and make me my own opinion receiving their explanations.. (still with the intention of deciding if we keep them in our listing)
But so far (1.5 month collaboration) they pay commission every week and their affiliate system has been well thought imo
One example of it: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/anhgn4/cloudbet_is_scam_they_are_not_paying_for_winning/
So you are right and I'm wrong ? the opposite ?
I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle
Would you mind giving a little bit more details about the last scam case of 500mBTC ? I could try to talk to my contact there (anastasiya) and push it to know better what happen from their POV ?
Not that I want to defend them, more that I want to confront them and make me my own opinion receiving their explanations.. (still with the intention of deciding if we keep them in our listing)
But so far (1.5 month collaboration) they pay commission every week and their affiliate system has been well thought imo
January 15, 2020, 10:07:26 PM
Could you share with us the 2 last complains for example and the date it was reported ?
The last 1xbit.com scam was reported 3 days ago.Account holder won a bet of around 500 mBTC. 2 minutes after the bet was settled, account was blocked, and now can't login.
Support wrote the following email and stopped communicating:
"Good Day. We want to inform you, that our company decided to stop any collaboration with you (closing your account). The decision was made after a careful investigation of the situation by our security service. The decision is based on a violation of the Terms and Conditions."
Many of the other victims received the same email. They even do not say why they stop the collaboration or what Terms and Conditions were breached!
January 15, 2020, 07:38:32 PM
Game Protect still receives 1xbit.com and 1xbet.com scam reports and received in total over 30 scam reports within the past years!
You are a hero Game Protect, you doing great job for the gambling industry. About 1xbit, you can play and win some little cash but if you are winning big here starts the problems, asking for KYC etc et... everybody knows only must see some experiences from other users in this forum and another forum very popular that is full of complains about 1xbit or 1xbet.
January 15, 2020, 04:30:47 PM
Could you share with us the 2 last complains for example and the date it was reported ?
January 15, 2020, 07:27:02 AM
Game Protect still receives 1xbit.com and 1xbet.com scam reports and received in total over 30 scam reports within the past years!
January 15, 2020, 06:07:59 AM
It could be good to have some input from a forum of PLAYERS only. Not ACTORS of the industry, exactly.
I'm myself an actor (with good intentions) and I'm currently promoting 1Xbit (sorry about that if I'm wrong, but I did some research before promoting and estimate it was "ok" to promote considering that complains were "too" old). I mean, not now in this thread but on my website that has 30k+ traffic per month...
I found this thread after agreeing on a deal with them and I wonder now if I should keep them in my "recommended sites". Be assured that they are not on the top of my list, but they are present, and the last thing I want to do is promote scammers, obv...
2 things:
- Having a scammish past and being scamming people right now are 2 differents things (both of them are regrettable but with different degrees imo)
- Keeping the average joe from withdrawing his sport's betting gain and banning professional sport-bettor constantly winning against the bookies are 2 differents things also (both of them are regrettable but with different degrees imo)
One more time I'm here trying to decide if I will keep them on my listing or not. I understand they are definitely not "white" and I see them as "grey", to be totally transparent, I didn't do myself the first research to decide if yes or not we will include them in our review.
Peace
I'm myself an actor (with good intentions) and I'm currently promoting 1Xbit (sorry about that if I'm wrong, but I did some research before promoting and estimate it was "ok" to promote considering that complains were "too" old). I mean, not now in this thread but on my website that has 30k+ traffic per month...
I found this thread after agreeing on a deal with them and I wonder now if I should keep them in my "recommended sites". Be assured that they are not on the top of my list, but they are present, and the last thing I want to do is promote scammers, obv...
2 things:
- Having a scammish past and being scamming people right now are 2 differents things (both of them are regrettable but with different degrees imo)
- Keeping the average joe from withdrawing his sport's betting gain and banning professional sport-bettor constantly winning against the bookies are 2 differents things also (both of them are regrettable but with different degrees imo)
One more time I'm here trying to decide if I will keep them on my listing or not. I understand they are definitely not "white" and I see them as "grey", to be totally transparent, I didn't do myself the first research to decide if yes or not we will include them in our review.
Peace
January 15, 2020, 04:59:21 AM
1xbit sounds more than suspiscious to me, but I understand what SoniaBlack means.
On one hand, It is difficult to avoid scam because most review sites could profitably promote scammer through affiliate programs.
One the other hand, most reliable posts here come from people taking part of the gambling industry. They could have an interest to make bad publicity. Even Game Protect could hardly be impartial since it is making money in this business (doing both affiliation and enforcement).
I do believe everyone here is honest (except 1xbit_com).
It is just difficult to find reliable information. It’s not specific to crypto gambling, but since a lot of operators are in a grey area it is easier for scammer I guess….
On one hand, It is difficult to avoid scam because most review sites could profitably promote scammer through affiliate programs.
One the other hand, most reliable posts here come from people taking part of the gambling industry. They could have an interest to make bad publicity. Even Game Protect could hardly be impartial since it is making money in this business (doing both affiliation and enforcement).
I do believe everyone here is honest (except 1xbit_com).
It is just difficult to find reliable information. It’s not specific to crypto gambling, but since a lot of operators are in a grey area it is easier for scammer I guess….
January 14, 2020, 08:08:46 PM
I'm really interested about if 1xbit are scammers or not.
But should we really trust people that critics 1xbit when these same people are obviously "promoting" sportsbet io?
Don't get me wrong here, sportsbet io is a good sportsbetting site I think, but I wonder if people with good and reputable site like these have interest in accusing other new site of scams (because they will lose some business if these site acquire good reputation)
These are only thoughts, no accusations, peace.
But its not just sportsbet.io since there are many other people saying dont play here who arent promoting sportsbet!But should we really trust people that critics 1xbit when these same people are obviously "promoting" sportsbet io?
Don't get me wrong here, sportsbet io is a good sportsbetting site I think, but I wonder if people with good and reputable site like these have interest in accusing other new site of scams (because they will lose some business if these site acquire good reputation)
These are only thoughts, no accusations, peace.
Here is a link you can read carefully about them: https://www.igamingbusiness.com/news/liverpool-and-chelsea-suspend-1xbet-partnerships
Probably he just read some previous posts which comes from member who promotes sportsbet. I do not promote sportsbet but I also recommend people to stay away from 1xbit as it is well known as scammer in this bitcointalk forum. On other side, accusation comes from people/players, not from competitor. If the negative feedback comes from members who are promoting other sites, it does not mean that the other sites accuse the same thing against this site.
January 14, 2020, 06:21:21 PM
I'm really interested about if 1xbit are scammers or not.
But should we really trust people that critics 1xbit when these same people are obviously "promoting" sportsbet io?
Don't get me wrong here, sportsbet io is a good sportsbetting site I think, but I wonder if people with good and reputable site like these have interest in accusing other new site of scams (because they will lose some business if these site acquire good reputation)
These are only thoughts, no accusations, peace.
But its not just sportsbet.io since there are many other people saying dont play here who arent promoting sportsbet!But should we really trust people that critics 1xbit when these same people are obviously "promoting" sportsbet io?
Don't get me wrong here, sportsbet io is a good sportsbetting site I think, but I wonder if people with good and reputable site like these have interest in accusing other new site of scams (because they will lose some business if these site acquire good reputation)
These are only thoughts, no accusations, peace.
Here is a link you can read carefully about them: https://www.igamingbusiness.com/news/liverpool-and-chelsea-suspend-1xbet-partnerships
January 14, 2020, 05:46:47 PM
I'm really interested about if 1xbit are scammers or not.
But should we really trust people that critics 1xbit when these same people are obviously "promoting" sportsbet io?
Don't get me wrong here, sportsbet io is a good sportsbetting site I think, but I wonder if people with good and reputable site like these have interest in accusing other new site of scams (because they will lose some business if these site acquire good reputation)
These are only thoughts, no accusations, peace.
But should we really trust people that critics 1xbit when these same people are obviously "promoting" sportsbet io?
Don't get me wrong here, sportsbet io is a good sportsbetting site I think, but I wonder if people with good and reputable site like these have interest in accusing other new site of scams (because they will lose some business if these site acquire good reputation)
These are only thoughts, no accusations, peace.
January 08, 2020, 08:15:58 AM
Another 1xbet clone, which means they will pick random winners and find any reason not to pay them.
"Random" well not exactly, the higher amount you win and the most likely you will never see your money. An example with a 25k bankroll who can say bye bye to his winnings > https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3584201-1xbit-com-refuse-pay-me-my-balance-25-000-a.html
We are in the process of enforcing 1xbet and 1xbit claims and he can join the proceeding"Random" well not exactly, the higher amount you win and the most likely you will never see your money. An example with a 25k bankroll who can say bye bye to his winnings > https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3584201-1xbit-com-refuse-pay-me-my-balance-25-000-a.html
https://game-protect.com/1xbet-scam/
January 08, 2020, 07:40:14 AM
@efialtis
can't really do much . In bitcointalk and betting forums things are good so I guess the majority are aware now but all of 1xbit's traffic isn't coming from the forums
twitter is full of accounts who are promoting them and posting how nice the odds are , affiliate websites are promoting them heavily as well and ranking them as the best crypto site
they even used to have ads in coinmarketcap and now they have plenty of ads in crypto related websites
only thing that can save people is doing some research and hopefully one of these topics will show up for them
melbet
this one is being promoted really heavily now , haven't researched it honestly but some of the friends mentioned it
now I see that it does belong to the same company lol , so it seems owners of these scams just keeps making new sites
can't really do much . In bitcointalk and betting forums things are good so I guess the majority are aware now but all of 1xbit's traffic isn't coming from the forums
twitter is full of accounts who are promoting them and posting how nice the odds are , affiliate websites are promoting them heavily as well and ranking them as the best crypto site
they even used to have ads in coinmarketcap and now they have plenty of ads in crypto related websites
only thing that can save people is doing some research and hopefully one of these topics will show up for them
melbet
this one is being promoted really heavily now , haven't researched it honestly but some of the friends mentioned it
now I see that it does belong to the same company lol , so it seems owners of these scams just keeps making new sites
Their ads are everywhere indeed, its crazy! How shady can a business be... They had me also do translations for a clone called "favbet", which seems to be up and running as well... And the guy who hired me (I really dont know his exact role) - not sure if he is one of the partners, if he is the owner, if he is just a service provider - has a history with other sites such as sekabet, too. And even more interesting - he used to do many fiat/crypto exchanges in person with members of the German forum here on bitcointalk. Its just all very confusing.
What matters is that hopefully bitcointalk members wont fall for them...
January 08, 2020, 07:33:04 AM
@efialtis
can't really do much . In bitcointalk and betting forums things are good so I guess the majority are aware now but all of 1xbit's traffic isn't coming from the forums
twitter is full of accounts who are promoting them and posting how nice the odds are , affiliate websites are promoting them heavily as well and ranking them as the best crypto site
they even used to have ads in coinmarketcap and now they have plenty of ads in crypto related websites
only thing that can save people is doing some research and hopefully one of these topics will show up for them
melbet
this one is being promoted really heavily now , haven't researched it honestly but some of the friends mentioned it
now I see that it does belong to the same company lol , so it seems owners of these scams just keeps making new sites
can't really do much . In bitcointalk and betting forums things are good so I guess the majority are aware now but all of 1xbit's traffic isn't coming from the forums
twitter is full of accounts who are promoting them and posting how nice the odds are , affiliate websites are promoting them heavily as well and ranking them as the best crypto site
they even used to have ads in coinmarketcap and now they have plenty of ads in crypto related websites
only thing that can save people is doing some research and hopefully one of these topics will show up for them
melbet
this one is being promoted really heavily now , haven't researched it honestly but some of the friends mentioned it
now I see that it does belong to the same company lol , so it seems owners of these scams just keeps making new sites
January 08, 2020, 07:22:45 AM
Mafia actually seems to be the right word - sort of... Several bitcointalk members I know have been scammed by 1xbit/1xbet...
We could start some kind of "witch hunt" if we wanted but I am not so sure it will be any helpful. When I signed up here on bitcointalk, I got to know someone who hired me for translations. After some time and after googling my translations, I found out they were being posted on 1xbit.com. At that point, I wasnt too sceptical, I didnt really know them and the guy seemed nice always paid on time. Then they hired me for additional translations --> other online bookies (I could tell the name) and it seems, they are just a huge group running many many different online bookies/casinos etc. - and not only online, I even translated contents for offline betting terminals etc.
Well, then I learned about people being scammed by 1xbit, made some research and also researched the user who hired me here on bitcointalk... it is just all very strange. When confronting him about all that, he stopped responding of course...
Many clones indeed, important to be aware of it:We could start some kind of "witch hunt" if we wanted but I am not so sure it will be any helpful. When I signed up here on bitcointalk, I got to know someone who hired me for translations. After some time and after googling my translations, I found out they were being posted on 1xbit.com. At that point, I wasnt too sceptical, I didnt really know them and the guy seemed nice always paid on time. Then they hired me for additional translations --> other online bookies (I could tell the name) and it seems, they are just a huge group running many many different online bookies/casinos etc. - and not only online, I even translated contents for offline betting terminals etc.
Well, then I learned about people being scammed by 1xbit, made some research and also researched the user who hired me here on bitcointalk... it is just all very strange. When confronting him about all that, he stopped responding of course...
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January 08, 2020, 06:49:10 AM
Mafia actually seems to be the right word - sort of... Several bitcointalk members I know have been scammed by 1xbit/1xbet...
We could start some kind of "witch hunt" if we wanted but I am not so sure it will be any helpful. When I signed up here on bitcointalk, I got to know someone who hired me for translations. After some time and after googling my translations, I found out they were being posted on 1xbit.com. At that point, I wasnt too sceptical, I didnt really know them and the guy seemed nice always paid on time. Then they hired me for additional translations --> other online bookies (I could tell the name) and it seems, they are just a huge group running many many different online bookies/casinos etc. - and not only online, I even translated contents for offline betting terminals etc.
Well, then I learned about people being scammed by 1xbit, made some research and also researched the user who hired me here on bitcointalk... it is just all very strange. When confronting him about all that, he stopped responding of course...
We could start some kind of "witch hunt" if we wanted but I am not so sure it will be any helpful. When I signed up here on bitcointalk, I got to know someone who hired me for translations. After some time and after googling my translations, I found out they were being posted on 1xbit.com. At that point, I wasnt too sceptical, I didnt really know them and the guy seemed nice always paid on time. Then they hired me for additional translations --> other online bookies (I could tell the name) and it seems, they are just a huge group running many many different online bookies/casinos etc. - and not only online, I even translated contents for offline betting terminals etc.
Well, then I learned about people being scammed by 1xbit, made some research and also researched the user who hired me here on bitcointalk... it is just all very strange. When confronting him about all that, he stopped responding of course...
January 08, 2020, 06:35:03 AM
Another 1xbet clone, which means they will pick random winners and find any reason not to pay them.
"Random" well not exactly, the higher amount you win and the most likely you will never see your money. An example with a 25k bankroll who can say bye bye to his winnings > https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3584201-1xbit-com-refuse-pay-me-my-balance-25-000-a.html
1xbet is a well known scam, very well documented. Plenty of threads on the Internet. For example this topic I started last year: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-stop-betting-with-1xbet-scam-you-have-been-warned-5165118
The worst they can do is lock your account, place fake bets themselves to make you lose money. Next day they unlock your account, you login and your money is gone.
"Random" well not exactly, the higher amount you win and the most likely you will never see your money. An example with a 25k bankroll who can say bye bye to his winnings > https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3584201-1xbit-com-refuse-pay-me-my-balance-25-000-a.html
1xbet is a well known scam, very well documented. Plenty of threads on the Internet. For example this topic I started last year: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-stop-betting-with-1xbet-scam-you-have-been-warned-5165118
The worst they can do is lock your account, place fake bets themselves to make you lose money. Next day they unlock your account, you login and your money is gone.
December 09, 2019, 01:03:46 PM
November 07, 2019, 04:42:59 PM
I thought 1xbit was a pretty old platform. Because I often see banner ads on many platforms, is this the original ANN?
On the other hand, I looked at the betting rates for the League of Legends world cup final. You can also bet which champions will be selected in the tournament, attracted a lot of interest, and decided to try.
1xbit isn't old but not new too, it was founded in 2016 year (fall). 1xbet is pretty old platform by the way.On the other hand, I looked at the betting rates for the League of Legends world cup final. You can also bet which champions will be selected in the tournament, attracted a lot of interest, and decided to try.
These two casinos are the same + the fact that 1xbet has curacao license makes this fact even clear. But the most curious thing is that 1xbet prioritizes Russina players and Russian market in overall, they actively run advertisements on Russian language websites. But on another hand I have no idea what 1xbit does. 1xbet has a lot of tables in Evolution Gaming studio, they pay a lot for that but at the same time our dead casino 1xbit has one table too. Scam casino pays to own private blackjack table? I have no idea why and what's their point.
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