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mobodick
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2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 30, 2013, 05:48:28 AM
#100
Quote from: Rampion on March 30, 2013, 05:19:26 AM
Quote from: Pharaoh on March 29, 2013, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: Rampion on March 29, 2013, 07:24:32 PM

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.


I can tell you at least 10 goods or services sold in BTC and not pegged to fiat. First example: Avalon ASICs

Yeah well, with the recent pricing of the avalons you can say that they generously float way above any pegged pricing.
The best bit is that avalon buys all its goods and services in fiat so they need to convert any bitcoins anyway.
They first peg their price, then start to move the peg around.
Expect stuff to start bleeding soon.
mobodick
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 30, 2013, 05:40:05 AM
#99
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Right, because REAL hackers can keep up with their 4GHz cpu and can check every command processed by it.
That is the true path of the CPfoo ninjas.
Rampion
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 30, 2013, 05:19:26 AM
#98
Quote from: Pharaoh on March 29, 2013, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: Rampion on March 29, 2013, 07:24:32 PM

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.


I can tell you at least 10 goods or services sold in BTC and not pegged to fiat. First example: Avalon ASICs
Pharaoh
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 11:48:39 PM
#97
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 11:27:58 PM
Avalon is now priced in BTC only, beginning with batch 3.

Like Yifu says "The loop has been closed."

Yeah,  as long as the price of bitcoin continues to rise when compared to fiat then it is a good idea for them since, I assume, they are paying all of their component manufacturers in fiat. The rise in bitcoin just means extra profit for them. If the price of bitcoin were to crash to $1 then I doubt they would continue to honor the current price.
fcmatt
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 11:31:08 PM
#96
Quote from: Zeek_W on October 25, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
BFL should NEVER EVER announce a product withe a release date again. They should squirrel away with the VC and profits from FPGAs then one day go:
"Oh hey everybody, you can buy this awesome device NOW, we have them in stock"

Ha! The greed here is so thick why do that when ppl will throw money at u?
Bogart
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 11:27:58 PM
#95
Quote from: Pharaoh on March 29, 2013, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: Rampion on March 29, 2013, 07:24:32 PM

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.


Avalon is now priced in BTC only, beginning with batch 3.

Like Yifu says "The loop has been closed."
Pharaoh
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 11:06:01 PM
#94
Quote from: Rampion on March 29, 2013, 07:24:32 PM

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.
ButchHashidy
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 10:40:03 PM
#93
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 07:23:29 PM
Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

I think an AV is a good thing when you want to browse with lesser risks. It happens occasionally that websites are infected. Its better to be protected this way if you dont want to lose functions of the browser/websites. Its not secure but better than nothing. Only my thinking...

You know what's more secure, if you think you'll need it?  A browser in a VM.  Save the VM state first, and when you're done browsing, just roll back.
Added layer of protection, install sandboxie in the VM and launch the browser in that.  Install noscript add-on if you're extra worried.
Rampion
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 07:24:32 PM
#92
Quote from: Pharaoh on March 29, 2013, 07:23:03 PM
I just want to point out again for the nth time that if you bought $1,300 in bitcoin instead of preordered a BFL back when bitcoin was under $10 then you would have over  $11,700 today  Roll Eyes

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?
Bogart
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 07:23:29 PM
#91
Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

I think an AV is a good thing when you want to browse with lesser risks. It happens occasionally that websites are infected. Its better to be protected this way if you dont want to lose functions of the browser/websites. Its not secure but better than nothing. Only my thinking...

You know what's more secure, if you think you'll need it?  A browser in a VM.  Save the VM state first, and when you're done browsing, just roll back.
Pharaoh
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 07:23:03 PM
#90
I just want to point out again for the nth time that if you bought $1,300 in bitcoin instead of preordered a BFL back when bitcoin was under $10 then you would have over  $11,700 today  Roll Eyes
SebastianJu
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
#89
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

I think an AV is a good thing when you want to browse with lesser risks. It happens occasionally that websites are infected. Its better to be protected this way if you dont want to lose functions of the browser/websites. Its not secure but better than nothing. Only my thinking...
jedunnigan
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
#88
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

lol that was the joke :p
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
#87
Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.
SebastianJu
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
#86
Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink
Rampion
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 07:02:04 PM
#85
This BFl guys make me panic. Who's willing to bet that at least 30% of first units shipped will break, burn and/or fail during the first month of use?
Bogart
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 06:57:29 PM
#84
So, to go back on topic, help me to understand the supposed state of BFL's chips.  There seems to be a lot of confusion about that.

Wafer #1: "Burned" for testing with some crazy wire bonded rig that was apparently of dubious benefit.
Wafer #2: Bumped, diced, packaged, and in testing.  Some soldered onto boards.
Wafers #3-6: Huh  Are they still just wafers?  Have they been bumped yet?  Diced and packaged?
Wafers #7-12: Huh Last we'd heard the top few metal layers were being held back.  Have they given the go-ahead yet to finalize them?  If so, when was it given?
Wafers #13+: Huh
allinvain
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 06:51:12 PM
#83
Quote from: Easy2Mine on October 26, 2012, 10:15:55 AM
Quote from: Zeek_W on October 26, 2012, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: Easy2Mine on October 26, 2012, 08:21:50 AM
I collect my bitcoins on a dedicated laptop inside a VMWare image and backup the wallet and put that backup in another house.
Just in case if my laptop got stolen.

One thing I just 'love' is people explaining their security measures. A healthy dose of paranoia goes a long way with the back stabbing that goes on these days

If you only have a few bitcoins, then I wouldn't bother to take some extra security measure.
But if you already collect more than 1k like a lot people already have hoard.
I don't think it is wise to keep your wallet unprotected.
Why would the developers of bitcoin adding a encrypt funtion into the client if NOBODY going to steal it.

They didn't at first. They only did after the first wave of thefts happened. Reactive instead of proactive.

But I think we are getting waaay off-topic here.

Bogart
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
#82
Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
Why the hell do you need anti-virus software?  You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom.  It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.
SebastianJu
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Re: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?
March 29, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
#81
Is there any way to know how many machines/GH are still open/ordered at BFL? Only just in case they start to ship the first asic it would be interesting to know how many are before an order you would make then.
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