2-month-old transaction still unconfirmed, stuck in mempool - page 2.

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Quote from: zabzob on March 03, 2024, 08:48:19 AM

Thanks. Maybe pooya87's post explains what's going on with this stuck tx. Another strange thing about the tx is that it vanished from the mempool for awhile, then returned days later. I actually sent the second payment attempt (which confirmed) from the same wallet, not a different one. (I misremembered that detail in my original post.) I did this because the first transaction had been purged. So now that it's back in the mempool, I'm wondering whether it will be confirmed along with any future transactions I send. For now I'll just keep waiting, don't want to risk it. It's not a high amount, but would rather not waste it if avoidable

I'm just adding this if you don't know how to perform the suggestion above check the image below to point you to the right direction.

On the Electrum menu go to Tools> Network> uncheck server automatically> then choose any server pointed from this image below right-click then use as a server.

Check them one by one as suggested above until your unconfirmed transaction become local and then delete it.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on March 03, 2024, 08:12:02 AM

If you coin has not been dropped from mempool, go to Electrum server setting and uncheck it from automatic and change the server one by one manually and resynchronize the wallet each time you are changing the sever and check if you will be able to see and spend the coin in a new transaction each time.

To add Charles-Tim's reply:

If your transaction is first displayed in electrum and you change the server to find a node which doesn't have your transaction in its mempool, your unconfirmed transaction wouldn't disappear automatically. Your transaction status will change to "local" and you should remove it using right-click menu.

Note that by removing the local transaction, you only remove it from your wallet file, so that you can make broadcast a one.

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Quote from: zabzob on March 03, 2024, 08:48:19 AM

So now that it's back in the mempool, I'm wondering whether it will be confirmed along with any future transactions I send.

If both transactions consume the same UTXOs, then the unconfirmed transaction is invalid and can never be confirmed (regardless of when it was created or broadcast). It will be dropped from the mempool.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on March 03, 2024, 08:44:45 AM

Quote from: Hatchy on March 03, 2024, 08:28:41 AM

usually it takes about 2weeks, 14 days and a total of 336 hours for a transaction to be purged and dropped from the mempool. A possible reason for any further delay before a transaction is dropped, might be due to the time when some full node had received your transaction.

On Bitcoin Core, it is 14 days, but some node runners may not leave it as default but change it to a longer period. You can change it also on Bitcoin Core. That is why some nodes will also retain the transaction after 14 days.

Quote from: zabzob on March 03, 2024, 08:38:55 AM

Thanks for the informative reply, I'll try that if the tx doesn't purge soon

The purging is 4.45 sat/vbyte right now and you said your transaction is 4.4 sat/vbyte. Some node runners can also edit the purging rate to a higher one. Do what I told you to do and you will be able to spend your coins in a new transaction. Your wallet is the reason you are not able to spend the coin in a new transaction.

Got it, thanks

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Quote from: Hatchy on March 03, 2024, 08:28:41 AM

Quote from: zabzob on March 03, 2024, 08:07:08 AM

Another question is, how long can a transaction stay stuck in the mempool before eventually getting purged?

usually it takes about 2weeks, 14 days and a total of 336 hours for a transaction to be purged and dropped from the mempool. A possible reason for any further delay before a transaction is dropped, might be due to the time when some full node had received your transaction.

You can read this reply by pooya87

Quote from: pooya87 on May 08, 2021, 01:41:36 AM

If your node receives transaction A on May 1 you'll drop it on May 15 but if my node comes online on May 4 and receives that transaction I'll drop it on May 18. That means transaction A will remain in my mempool for 4 more days and if during those days any node that doesn't have this tx connects to me and asks for my mempool I'll give transaction A back to them and they'll end up with it in their mempool again.
So technically transactions that are valid will never actually disappear and will always remain out there on bitcoin's network among some nodes.

Thanks. Maybe pooya87's post explains what's going on with this stuck tx. Another strange thing about the tx is that it vanished from the mempool for awhile, then returned days later. I actually sent the second payment attempt (which confirmed) from the same wallet, not a different one. (I misremembered that detail in my original post.) I did this because the first transaction had been purged. So now that it's back in the mempool, I'm wondering whether it will be confirmed along with any future transactions I send. For now I'll just keep waiting, don't want to risk it. It's not a high amount, but would rather not waste it if avoidable

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Quote from: Hatchy on March 03, 2024, 08:28:41 AM

usually it takes about 2weeks, 14 days and a total of 336 hours for a transaction to be purged and dropped from the mempool. A possible reason for any further delay before a transaction is dropped, might be due to the time when some full node had received your transaction.

On Bitcoin Core, it is 14 days, but some node runners may not leave it as default but change it to a longer period. You can change it also on Bitcoin Core. That is why some nodes will also retain the transaction after 14 days.

Quote from: zabzob on March 03, 2024, 08:38:55 AM

Thanks for the informative reply, I'll try that if the tx doesn't purge soon

The purging is 4.45 sat/vbyte right now and you said your transaction is 4.4 sat/vbyte. Some node runners can also edit the purging rate to a higher one. Do what I told you to do and you will be able to spend your coins in a new transaction. Your wallet is the reason you are not able to spend the coin in a new transaction.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on March 03, 2024, 08:12:02 AM

You want to do child-pay-for-prrent (CPFP) so that the transaction that is stuck can get confirmed. Like you know, you will pay extra fee. Also that would be if the stuck transaction has change (in change address).

The transaction has been stuck since 8 weeks or more. Import the seed phrase into Electrum and check if you will be able to see the coin and be able to spend it.

If you coin has not been dropped from mempool, go to Electrum server setting and uncheck it from automatic and change the server one by one manually and resynchronize the wallet each time you are changing the sever and check if you will be able to see and spend the coin in a new transaction each time.

Electrum official site: https://electrum.org/

Thanks for the informative reply, I'll try that if the tx doesn't purge soon

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Quote from: zabzob on March 03, 2024, 08:07:08 AM

Another question is, how long can a transaction stay stuck in the mempool before eventually getting purged?

usually it takes about 2weeks, 14 days and a total of 336 hours for a transaction to be purged and dropped from the mempool. A possible reason for any further delay before a transaction is dropped, might be due to the time when some full node had received your transaction.

You can read this reply by pooya87

Quote from: pooya87 on May 08, 2021, 01:41:36 AM

If your node receives transaction A on May 1 you'll drop it on May 15 but if my node comes online on May 4 and receives that transaction I'll drop it on May 18. That means transaction A will remain in my mempool for 4 more days and if during those days any node that doesn't have this tx connects to me and asks for my mempool I'll give transaction A back to them and they'll end up with it in their mempool again.
So technically transactions that are valid will never actually disappear and will always remain out there on bitcoin's network among some nodes.

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You want to do child-pay-for-prrent (CPFP) so that the transaction that is stuck can get confirmed. Like you know, you will pay extra fee. Also that would be if the stuck transaction has change (in change address).

The transaction has been stuck since 8 weeks or more. Import the seed phrase into Electrum and check if you will be able to see the coin and be able to spend it.

If you coin has not been dropped from mempool, go to Electrum server setting and uncheck it from automatic and change the server one by one manually and resynchronize the wallet each time you are changing the sever and check if you will be able to see and spend the coin in a new transaction each time.

Electrum official site: https://electrum.org/

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I have a transaction stuck in the mempool that I sent I little over 2 months ago. According to mempool.space the fee is 4.4 sat/vB. This was for a payment, and when it didn't confirm quickly I used different wallet to send a separate payment with a higher fee, which confirmed quickly. I haven't used the wallet with the stuck transaction since sending it, I've been waiting for it to get purged from the mempool. Now I'm wondering, if I send a new transaction from this wallet, will the stuck transaction get confirmed along with it? I'm trying to avoid this as that would result in paying twice for what the original transaction was meant for (since I sent a new one that confirmed).

Another question is, how long can a transaction stay stuck in the mempool before eventually getting purged?

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