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Topic: 2 Scenarios resulting from SD: Bearish vs. Turbo Bearish with Lasers on Top (Read 3486 times)

hero member
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Majority of the 126k coin are going to.Eric and not the sdice holders. So it will depend on what Eric will do more than anything else
sr. member
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Please recall.  It is possible that not all trades happen on the exchanges.  There is a rumor that.... Bitcoins can be sent peer to peer!

 Grin
legendary
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Gresham's Lawyer
These SD discussion is just shit.

It is not possible to sell 10000BTC without moving the price. Even worse, it is not possible to withdraw fiat from gox, and the volume of bitstamp and btce just can't support big sell. If Erik and his team want fiat, it's much better for them to sell SD for fiat or fiat + BTC.

Please recall.  It is possible that not all trades happen on the exchanges.  There is a rumor that.... Bitcoins can be sent peer to peer!
legendary
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I'll vote bullish. I voted with my bitcoin.
legendary
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The worst thing actually is that MP will get even more smug than he already is.

At last! Something we can agree on.  Cheesy
legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
The worst thing actually is that MP will get even more smug than he already is.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
It is not possible to sell 10000BTC without moving the price.

As long as you can sell first you are fine. Thats the deal.
legendary
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These SD discussion is just shit.

It is not possible to sell 10000BTC without moving the price. Even worse, it is not possible to withdraw fiat from gox, and the volume of bitstamp and btce just can't support big sell. If Erik and his team want fiat, it's much better for them to sell SD for fiat or fiat + BTC.
legendary
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Does nobody but me find it a bit scary, that a single entity could acquire ~1% of all Bitcoins in existents, in the matter of days(?) without sending the price stratospheric?

I don't know.  The price did recently jump from the 60's to over 100 in a matter of a week or so.  It could have been because of this?  Who knows though.

plausible
legendary
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Does nobody but me find it a bit scary, that a single entity could acquire ~1% of all Bitcoins in existents, in the matter of days(?) without sending the price stratospheric?

I don't know.  The price did recently jump from the 60's to over 100 in a matter of a week or so.  It could have been because of this?  Who knows though.
legendary
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Merit: 1057
Marketing manager - GO MP
Does nobody but me find it a bit scary, that a single entity could acquire ~1% of all Bitcoins in existents, in the matter of days(?) without sending the price stratospheric?

Who says days? We dont know WHO bought WHEN what amount and if they were smart they would have bought on down terms or from a large BTC holder that wants to cash out off exchanges, maybe it even IS an early adopter, who knows? It may even be Satoshi himself that wants to eradicate this gambling hell off the map of the internet, that has his name printed on its back?

Doesn't strike me as the type.
hero member
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Why do people with shares in SD suddenly feel compelled to turn them into fiat?

Considering their sdice stock suddenly went up 50% (from 0.0020 market to 0.0035 buyout) some would already automatically have sold some sdice stock as to lower their exposure.

However now everybody got coins instead of stock, and a lot of coins considering it's 50% more coins than the value of the stock was just a few days ago.

So some will want to lower their exposure to bitcoins as it just went up a lot for them.


We are talking around 150,000 btc that went to shareholders. Say they want to sell 20% of those btc that is around 30,000 btc that will be sold.

Also all these coins were likely bought recently, so the price was likely pushed up artificially, and is now partly going back down.
This. It may not be severe, but the only conceivable result is negative for BTC's price. The question is how much. The coins were already bought -- no more artificial spike. Sure, lots of shareholders will keep coins... but who actually thinks every investor is going to hold onto every coin? And how about the frontrunners? You think they believe shareholders will all stash all of their bitcoins?

Bears fail again.
Oh? Still 160 by the end of July, then? This guy.....  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Does nobody but me find it a bit scary, that a single entity could acquire ~1% of all Bitcoins in existents, in the matter of days(?) without sending the price stratospheric?

Who says days? We dont know WHO bought WHEN what amount and if they were smart they would have bought on down terms or from a large BTC holder that wants to cash out off exchanges, maybe it even IS an early adopter, who knows? It may even be Satoshi himself that wants to eradicate this gambling hell off the map of the internet, that has his name printed on its back?
legendary
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Does nobody but me find it a bit scary, that a single entity could acquire ~1% of all Bitcoins in existents, in the matter of days(?) without sending the price stratospheric?
full member
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I think the real risk as somebody has said is there will be less people buying.

Thus we're likely to see a gradual slide as nobody is making these huge buys that caused the recovery to 90
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Why do people with shares in SD suddenly feel compelled to turn them into fiat?

Considering their sdice stock suddenly went up 50% (from 0.0020 market to 0.0035 buyout) some would already automatically have sold some sdice stock as to lower their exposure.

However now everybody got coins instead of stock, and a lot of coins considering it's 50% more coins than the value of the stock was just a few days ago.

So some will want to lower their exposure to bitcoins as it just went up a lot for them.


We are talking around 150,000 btc that went to shareholders. Say they want to sell 20% of those btc that is around 30,000 btc that will be sold.

Also all these coins were likely bought recently, so the price was likely pushed up artificially, and is now partly going back down.

30k BTC is a drop in the ocean.

Maybe the price will dip a bit more, but I'd say it's pretty safe to stay above 80. Maybe even 90
legendary
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It would take a 26,300 BTC dump to take the price below 80.
I guess we'll know tomorrow. I just cancelled my buy order at 86.xx. What if it drops below 80 tomorrow?
sr. member
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This bull will try to shake you off. Hold tight!
Why do people with shares in SD suddenly feel compelled to turn them into fiat?

Considering their sdice stock suddenly went up 50% (from 0.0020 market to 0.0035 buyout) some would already automatically have sold some sdice stock as to lower their exposure.

However now everybody got coins instead of stock, and a lot of coins considering it's 50% more coins than the value of the stock was just a few days ago.

So some will want to lower their exposure to bitcoins as it just went up a lot for them.


We are talking around 150,000 btc that went to shareholders. Say they want to sell 20% of those btc that is around 30,000 btc that will be sold.

Also all these coins were likely bought recently, so the price was likely pushed up artificially, and is now partly going back down.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Why do people with shares in SD suddenly feel compelled to turn them into fiat?

I would think the smart ones would want to hold until the price rices to sell???  Of course there may be some that do not trust Bitcoin, but even in the last week the price has been over $100 so they would be crazy to sell if it is lower than that I would think.
kjj
legendary
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Merit: 1026
Why do people with shares in SD suddenly feel compelled to turn them into fiat?

Exactly.

This idea has been almost the sole reason for the sudden price drop, and I think that's simply not the case.

To a first approximation, everyone talks their book.  They start with a conclusion and then try to justify it.  Everything in the speculation forum is either post-hoc logic, or voodoo (chart analysis).
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