2 Simple Ways Crypto Whales Manipulate the Market - page 3.

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Quote from: usekevin on June 01, 2021, 07:03:45 AM

Mostly it was a insecure feeling to the traders.It was the main reason for selling at low price.For all the coin,the manipulation of price is made by Whales.Their is no word of loss in crypto ,if you follow the step of holding.Holding make the good profit for your little investment.People inverse their needed money and get the loss by selling for dependence .

Whenever the price falls there will be fear and that is not going to change anytime soon neither. I believe we are going to end up with something that would basically be life changing in the next run. People are still not realizing where we are right now, that is the real scary part.

Those insecure traders will be shocked when they realize that if we have another huge run like we had here, that will eventually end up with something like a bigger market cap than gold type of deal, that is not understandable, that is not going to end up with something that could be profitable for just us, it is going to be profitable for everyone in the world, "flip gold" is not something that can be taken lightly. In the end I am hoping to see that bitcoin could probably reach to a level where life will become much better, and those who are insecure will slowly grow used to it.

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The method used is not patentable and can be easily estimated. if that's the way everyone can guess, then what's the point of throwing away?

I think it is still difficult to define a predictable way which is then considered a method for whales to manipulate prices in the market.

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Currently, tools that all people have access are used, and they are social networks, when influential people speak out, they move masses, emotions and cause them to buy or sell, such is the case of the best example Elon Musk, with only a few tweets he made many They will buy Doge and BTC in a massive way, so much that the prices made a big pump, but he by launching a tweet not so good for BTC caused one of the biggest Dumps of all, it is obvious that it was a strategy, if he wanted to sell BTC He achieved it in a great way, this type of manipulation has been applied since the 1800s in the stock market.

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Quote from: Questat on June 01, 2021, 08:43:28 AM

Whales create FUD, weak hands got shaken easily, and start to get panic.
Whether we like it or not, these rich people that we called whales are making their own way to make money and to take advantage of the market while small investors riding on it. But it was too unfortunate that most of the newcomers got their trap and caught. So I could say that whales are smarter than causal investors and they can really manipulate the market if they want to.

Whales win in the fiat world as well, having money that you do not need is a power that we can't even understand. When you have 1000 dollars and you invested 100 dollars of that, it is your 10% and when you have 10 million dollars and invest 1 million dollars it is 10% as well. However they are not the same thing, when you lose that 100 dollars you might be losing a money that is very important to you, money that could change your life, pay your bills, something valuable to me, however when that guy loses his million dollars he still has 9 million dollars, he doesn't change his life at all.

This is why I think it is quite important we realize that we are fighting against an enemy that has nuclear weapon and we are trying to shoot them with glocks, there is a big difference, some of us have knives instead, these guys are bombing us with nuclear, the difference is THAT big.

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Following whales strategy is best to counter their manipulation in the market but in actual or say in reality this is difficult because of funds limitation like whales accumulate thousands of bitcoins at dips and on the other side how much can you invest if the prices are at $30-$40k even after crash? And most importantly there is saying in market "weaker hands sold to strong hands" which is correct like the panic sellers jointly sold their coins to the whale group at dips due to FUD spreaded by them.But the best time is to invest when there is blood on Roads meaning when charts are red just go with investment and green signals increase your profit.You can't compete with whales but try to weaken their situation if you learn this thing.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on May 31, 2021, 05:52:53 AM

If you will going to HOLD longer then there will be no option for whale to manipulate the market, because the only thing they can do is to shake the market and if noob and week investors affected of the movement then the whales success .
but if all of us small investors will not take part then we will win against them.

That's what a strong hand will always defeat the whale, even how they will spread their FUD, no one will listen to them and follow what they say.

Those wealthy and high institutional investors are considered as a whale and they are enemies to us a small investor. A low volume altcoins are easy for them to shake and create FUD so that weak people will easily believe in their hidden agenda of making a profit in the market.

That's why to invest in what you can afford because holding for a long time and aiming to gain profit isn't easy. There's no time frame for that or else, patiently wait until it will come.

But most of the time they are winning. Whales create FUD, weak hands got shaken easily, and start to get panic.
Whether we like it or not, these rich people that we called whales are making their own way to make money and to take advantage of the market while small investors riding on it. But it was too unfortunate that most of the newcomers got their trap and caught. So I could say that whales are smarter than causal investors and they can really manipulate the market if they want to.

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Mostly it was a insecure feeling to the traders.It was the main reason for selling at low price.For all the coin,the manipulation of price is made by Whales.Their is no word of loss in crypto ,if you follow the step of holding.Holding make the good profit for your little investment.People inverse their needed money and get the loss by selling for dependence .

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The problem with people who are too afraid to hold is because they have this fear of the market going down to as low as zero where the chance for that to happen is really slim, these people don't know what in every coin they sold there's people waiting to buy more and more
and that's gonna happen even if the market is about to go down to about 90% some people gonna buy these coins in bulk and wait for another recovery.
If you know that the market has really low chance of going down that much because peolpe are also setting up buy order you gonna have a strong hand, remember we only lose when we sell.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on May 31, 2021, 05:52:53 AM

If you will going to HOLD longer then there will be no option for whale to manipulate the market, because the only thing they can do is to shake the market and if noob and week investors affected of the movement then the whales success .
but if all of us small investors will not take part then we will win against them.

That's what a strong hand will always defeat the whale, even how they will spread their FUD, no one will listen to them and follow what they say.

Those wealthy and high institutional investors are considered as a whale and they are enemies to us a small investor. A low volume altcoins are easy for them to shake and create FUD so that weak people will easily believe in their hidden agenda of making a profit in the market.

That's why to invest in what you can afford because holding for a long time and aiming to gain profit isn't easy. There's no time frame for that or else, patiently wait until it will come.

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Quote from: boyptc on May 31, 2021, 02:43:09 PM

Quote from: MCobian on May 30, 2021, 03:39:03 AM

Quote from: boyptc on May 30, 2021, 02:15:47 AM

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The common way whales manipulate prices is usually looking for coins that are cheaply priced, usually whales manipulating the price of new coins.
After that the whales will pump the coins and after the FOMO occurs, the whales will immediately take profit and the market dump. After that whales
will leave the coins, therefore avoid investing in new coins, if not able to do research and analysis properly. For popular coins, whales usually do
the pump, you dump several times to be able to collect profit. Therefore if we invest in popular coins, if after we buy the price is not long then dump.
It was likely a manipulation of the whales, and we only need to be patient with the holding of these coins. Because as I said, whales will pump and
dump several times, so we wait until the coin price is pumped again.

Yes, they're more with the new coins because liquidity is low.

And when they enter, the price will pump and shall be noticed by many traders, so those traders will also have that thought that it's a good coin to invest because it just pumped and quite new.

So whoever enters early will have the most advantage.

All coins with low liquidity are very easy to manipulate, therefore for newbies it is better to avoid investing in coins with low liquidity.
It is true that early adopters are always profitable, therefore it's no wonder new projects are always in demand, because the opportunity
to get profit is very large. But what we need to be aware of, there are so many new projects that are scams, and usually there are always
whales who invest in new projects. Research and analysis is required before deciding to invest in new projects.

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Quote from: headingnorth on May 29, 2021, 12:27:43 AM

If you can learn to successfully whale watch, you will be able to trade the way they do and make higher returns. It’s also essential to “hodl” strong if they are trying to make the price drop. Otherwise, you will feed the whales your position at a discount and give them even more leverage in the future to manipulate the market further.

These really make sense seeing how powerful the whales are. We may not know who they are. But although we always believe that no one can manipulate the market, it sees,s like be different. When the whales have played with the market, they will always be able to manipulate the price. Up and down only several times is really possible.

However, what I am thinking right now is about:
Is every whale the same? WIll be going to m=be more interested to make the same decision for the same time? Like making a drop price at the same time? because sometimes, we can see that some parties are also struggling in order that BTC will not be dropped again

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Quote from: MCobian on May 30, 2021, 03:39:03 AM

Quote from: boyptc on May 30, 2021, 02:15:47 AM

We should really hold if they're manipulating the price. They all want to get the best price before selling and if they're sending the prices down. That only means that they want to have it at the cheapest price so they send fud to the market.

And once it's already down, they're buying all of those cheap bitcoins.

The common way whales manipulate prices is usually looking for coins that are cheaply priced, usually whales manipulating the price of new coins.
After that the whales will pump the coins and after the FOMO occurs, the whales will immediately take profit and the market dump. After that whales
will leave the coins, therefore avoid investing in new coins, if not able to do research and analysis properly. For popular coins, whales usually do
the pump, you dump several times to be able to collect profit. Therefore if we invest in popular coins, if after we buy the price is not long then dump.
It was likely a manipulation of the whales, and we only need to be patient with the holding of these coins. Because as I said, whales will pump and
dump several times, so we wait until the coin price is pumped again.

Yes, they're more with the new coins because liquidity is low.

And when they enter, the price will pump and shall be noticed by many traders, so those traders will also have that thought that it's a good coin to invest because it just pumped and quite new.

So whoever enters early will have the most advantage.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on May 30, 2021, 12:15:53 AM

I think the best way to counter these whales manipulators simply by going against the flow, many people are scared of bearish they made a silly mistake of panic selling, same with bullish they also get too carried away and fomo.

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The whale are master of their craft, they're very good and skilled at manipulating the market, they know when to push the agenda and it'll have an effect on the market so if you're trying to outsmart them, you have to be very cautious to avoid getting rekted.

The best method (in outsmarting the whales) is by cost averaging when the bears are in sessions. Don't go in with all your funds at ones as you'll never know when the button is reached and they (the whales) could still manipulate the market further just to cause more panic in the market.

In the scenario of bullish market instead of countering the whales, I would suggest you just go with the flow but apply cautious by making use of the stop loss features at a very reasonable price.

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Quote from: taufik123 on May 30, 2021, 12:09:08 PM

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For long-term hodlers like me, it's just piss easy because I won't be like moving my coins for quite a long-time even if whales would turn the trends around at some point.
Just like what's happening to the market right now, either I just buy or I hold. I just don't give a crap about others' FUDs to the market.

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If you will going to HOLD longer then there will be no option for whale to manipulate the market, because the only thing they can do is to shake the market and if noob and week investors affected of the movement then the whales success .
but if all of us small investors will not take part then we will win against them.

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Quote from: headingnorth on May 29, 2021, 12:27:43 AM

...It is important to note that these tactics are illegal in the regulated stock market exchanges. As the cryptocurrency world faces more regulations as time goes on, It is safe to say that the whales will eventually lose their power to manipulate the market so readily and easily.

Obviously, it will take a long time before such manipulations in the cryptocurrency market will be prohibited by law, just as it is prohibited in the stock market. And until this happens, traders must adapt to the manipulation of large capital, opening orders in the same direction as the whales.

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Quote from: ven7net on May 30, 2021, 06:37:24 AM

I believe that in order to understand the actions of whales, you need to have a lot of experience and a number of special skills. But in addition to the strategies of the whales, to lower the prices of crypto assets or, on the contrary, increase them, there is also market manipulation when we think about one thing, and in this all this was created for another result. Previously, the crypto market was not as manipulative as it is now, and this makes it clear that not all the actions of crits need to be paid attention to, and even more so to try to correspond to them. Is that only in one case, when you know 100% of the plans of the whales.

it is hard to guess if the whales will act, where the market will be pumping high and for a while it will be dumped again. In the current situation, we must be careful when taking steps, most importantly, don't be greedy to take profits, because at any time the market may reverse.

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Quote from: Woodie on May 30, 2021, 11:59:41 AM

Of all ways you have described I believe the price pumping manipulation is one of those strategies that has spoiled us the most!
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price pumping manipulation is indeed one strategy that will spoil anyone. But when we participate in the FOMO pump like that, in a few minutes the price will drop very drastically and eventually many are stuck at a high price, this will be very dangerous.
As a regular trader I try to follow where the pope is going and try to get on his back to stay safe.
market manipulation will continue, we must stay prepared. and the last is to do technical analysis because the main reference of whales is also in technical analysis.

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Of all ways you have described I believe the price pumping manipulation is one of those strategies that has spoiled us the most!

Because every time this happens people don't see this move early enough and ride the wave late then the whales choose to mitigate there trades and all those still holding the buy trades get their accounts wiped out and once mitigation is over its back on the bullish trail.

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Quote from: headingnorth on May 29, 2021, 12:27:43 AM

Their significant funds allow them to change the market trend in whatever direction they want.

they want to happen? Perhaps if ppl will not believe in such things maybe market now is fully recovered and not become stagnant. But unfortunately mostly don't know what exactly happening right now and relying on what's in the internet which a big mistake because of some fuds spreading some shits in the internet..right now it depends on us if we really wanted to get the real information in my personal opinion because if we use to believe in such things its like a suicide..

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