Topic: 2009 Bitcoin Wallet Help & Possible Find : UPDATE (Read 649 times)

It's in the puzzle thread:

Yes. But you would have know that if you would have mined in 2009.

I'm unwatching this topic.

Please look at this address:

1EHNa6Q4Jz2uvNExL497mE43ikXhwF6kZm

I found this address and private key on my hard drive that is been unplugged since at least 2012. This address has a transaction beginning date of 2011. I was talking with my today who also was an early miner and he told me that I would either have a wallet with 50btc or 0btc due to solo mining back in 2009. Is that correct? Or was there pool mining back in 2009? This transaction beginning in 2011 doesn't help my case because technically i should see a transaction from 2009.

All I did was Google the sending address.

That transaction comes from 17dap8PN1MsU6kJXkxoRTgV1yxwa6j1DzZ, which has it's private key posted in a README on Github.

You're wasting everyone's time.
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Thank you for pointing this out about this trans id and private key. Some of my initial held beliefs in conducting scans was that some of the information was going to public or testnet data, also data that leads to nowhere or yields no value. It would be grreat if you could explain this trace of trans ID to private key to me, when I look through my data, I can sort out what is potentially good and bad.

I'm starting to go back and re-scan the drives and isolate the data. There are 3 addresses that I'll post that you should look at, you can tell me if they are BS or not. I think most of the data that I'm scanning is No Good. It is potentially trying to find the needle in the haystack and that is even if the needle is there.  

Please fix your quotes.

I have a hard time believing that. Too many people make up stories for some reason, and your story doesn't add up.

That transaction comes from 17dap8PN1MsU6kJXkxoRTgV1yxwa6j1DzZ, which has it's private key posted in a README on Github.

You're wasting everyone's time.

Feel free to post them.
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Can you please explain this transaction to me.

Transaction ID:
c337fabde96f8adbfafaabaed079d87d97f7baa53650586c98df118485acf31a

c337fabde96f8adbfafaabaed079d87d97f7baa53650586c98df118485acf31a


These transactions were completed back in 2015 on addresses and private keys that I own. That are going to a wallet that is accumulating bitcoin.

You're asking the wrong question. You should ask why you have them on your computer, and you're the only one who can answer that.

Anyone can share, leak or lose private keys. It sounds like you've downloaded some of them.

Feel free to post them.

If I'd want to check a large number of addresses, I'd use this:
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I checked all the private keys and about 24 addresses come back with transactions that occured over the years. Question I have Loyce is why would there be transactions on these addresses, if I supposedly the only one to have the private keys which don't seem to be the case? Or do I not understand Bitcoin right? Would you like one of the addresses that has transactions?

Maybe it's easier if most of the keys aren't funded. I was thinking of this experience after I imported thousands of private keys:

If I'd want to check a large number of addresses, I'd use this:

Fortunately it's not true for Bitcoin Core. Looking at this thread, some users report they can import million private keys into wallet.dat. Although you need lots of RAM, since Bitcoin Core apparently load entire wallet.dat content into RAM.

And that's why I've noted that if his wallet is from 2009, it's either hundreds or single digit since the earliest versions store the private keys that are generated by the client but do not generate reserves.
And later old versions generate reserves of 100 private keys, next line mentioning thousands is for the "since then" part.
(I've re-included those snipped part on my quoted reply for clarification)

Maybe "reserve" is better term to use to describe both new and old wallets, thanks.

The story started in the summer of 2009 and i remember downloading bitcoin qt and running bitcoin brought my state of the art gaming computer to a stand still for about 3 hours or so. Until I believe I shut off the program. I remember seeing that there was only ever to be 21 million coin and each coin was at .007 cents at the time in value.

Thoroughout the years I stayed in tune with bitcoin, though, i don't remember actively mining after 2009 or 2010. When 2017 came along and it shot up in price and figured I had some lost bitcoin potentially somewhere.
It took my a few more years before I would start the search for it across what would be multiple hard drives because when you're a gamer, I was constantly upgrading hard drives.

After scanning 5 hard drives, these are the results that were outputted. Most of these hard drives haven't been used since 2015. They have just been sitting unplugged and on my computer desk. It really makes me scratch my head when I scan them and the program is finding usable data. It is possible though data migration over the years across these drives. I'm trying know to better understand the backend of Bitcoin and how it truly stores coins/address/private keys.

Is it possible on comprised private keys, I guess, but I never went looking for private keys online. I know how to run Python programs but not C programs. So if you know of Python program that would be great.

How did you go from this:
To this:

You tell me

Bitcion Core doesn't save "other people's private keys". It sounds like you've downloaded some known compromised private keys.

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You shouldn't use Electrum to import 200k private keys. Bitcoin Core will probably have problems too. Just convert them to addresses, and compare with all funded addresses or all addresses ever used. I've used bitcoin-tool years ago, it should be able to convert bulk private keys to addresses. I wouldn't trust it on an online system.

Interesting. I have 223517 private keys that I imported, which, seems excessive. These private keys were in HEX decimal format that were than converted to WIF format and thus bulk imported into Electrum. Electrum is taking its good ol time synchorizing these private keys. In this process, is has recorded 2421 transactions the first ones occuring in 2011. So 223517 private keys and each one has a unique address. It finally verified an address with transactions, though, the balance is 0.

If view details of the address, I can view the private key in its correct format. I guess my question I wonder is, if these, weren't my addresses or private keys, how would I end up with them on my hard drive? Is it possible when downloading Bitcoin Core and the ledger that the scan program had gathered some of this information of other people's addresses?

In 2009, there was no "gap limit", as that's related to HD wallets. There may not even have been a keypool yet (which was later introduced starting with 100 addresses by default, and later increased to 1000 addresses).

"Most"? If that means some are funded, you found what you're looking for.

If it's from a 2009 wallet.dat that's not loaded to an updated client, then there should only be hundreds to single digit of private keys depending on the Bitcoin client's version.
If it's old but quite newer than the above, then there should be thousands.

It's highly unlikely for your wallet to generate 229,000 private keys if 99% of those aren't used or from multiple wallet files since the default gap limit since then is only 1000.
Chances is that the AI chatbot that you've asked messed up the code to aimlessly search for 256-byte data from the drive.
If you can share the code (between [code][/code] tags), users here can audit if it's actually doing what you've asked the bot.

My question is if I recovered data from my possible wallet, would it contain thousands of private keys? Because that is what my scanner program found and these private keys are verified as bitcoin addresses.

I don't know. I thought it was one address or addresses and one or couple private keys???

I did a private key import and it is showing a little over 229,000 or private keys. So I really don't know what to think, most of the private keys have a 0 balance.

It's hard to believe AI is useful for such specific task, but you have no reason to lie here.


1. Probably no, since key pool feature created back in 2010. See Key pool feature for safer wallet backup.
2. So what is your question? If the private key is in WIF format, you could just import those to Electrum or other wallet which have feature to import bunch of private keys.

Update

Recently I used different AI engines to write me different python bitcoin recovery programs and these programs have found addresses and private keys.
I was really surprised because I didn't think these programs would find anything useful.

Questions:
1. Would old wallet files have hundreds of addresses? Even if you mined lets say a little bit of coin?
2. I have hundreds of addresses and hundreds of private keys. The keys themselves are unencrypted.

I'm still trying to digest all this information and make sense of it all. I have downloaded Electrum and I am also using Bitaddress to correlate the Private Keys to the Addresses.