2017 Bitcoin Debit Card Reviews - page 35.

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Quote from: czz on May 22, 2016, 07:34:22 AM

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#1 – E-Coin / Wirex https://www.e-coin.io/ https://wirexapp.com/
This is a 2-way bitcoin card (just annouced and tested), which means you can keep both bitcoins and fiat (USD, EUR, GBP) in your account, and switch between them as you wish. Plastic card for $ 17 and Virtual for $3. Has both Visa and MasterCard.
They offer unnamed cards, and no documents are required if you load it up to $2500. Verified users have no load limits. Both verified and unverified have no daily spend limits, regarding to number of purchases and their values.
Has below average fees, although not always the lowest. 1% when converting BTC to fiat, $2,50 when using the ATM. They ship to 130+ countries, the highest number announced so far. No annuity.
They’re the only service with 24/7 support, and they’re very fast. It really counts when you are abroad and need help with some issue (see below my experience with Xapo).
The Wirex app is a big plus. I was a beta tester and it is pretty slick. Works like a charm for being in beta.

Wirex looks great but not sure about the 1% on BTC->fiat. I have just tried that and the rate was $430/BTC compared to $442 on Bitstamp which is 2.8% fee hidden in the exchange rate.

Wirex/E-Coin rate cannot be the same as Bitstamp by default - it is a different service, with different costs and business model. A pure exchange (like Bitstamp or others) works on huge volumes and gives you a certain functionality. Wirex/E-Coin offers instant load to your card with no lengthy registration process, no dealings with bank transfers etc. It's a bit like Costco vs your local grocery store, can't really compare the two purely on cost, it wouldn't be adequate.

That said, you get exactly the amount you see on your screen before confirming the transaction on your card, so, there is nothing hidden there - what you see is what you get.

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Quote from: praprata on May 20, 2016, 02:19:29 PM

E-Coin/Wirex did come out of nothing. In just 3/4 months and 1 signature campaign they got a lot of clients. I don't think they expected it nor could handle it which means they overused their own limits and now the customers are bleeding too....

E-Coin started shipping cards in beta in January 2015 and full speed in March-April 2015.

Indeed, in the last several months there has been a considerable growth of customer base, number of cards and transactions, hence, yes, we are working through some growth issues. Yet, trying to minimize the impact on customers and will keep working hard to improve further

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#1 – E-Coin / Wirex https://www.e-coin.io/ https://wirexapp.com/
This is a 2-way bitcoin card (just annouced and tested), which means you can keep both bitcoins and fiat (USD, EUR, GBP) in your account, and switch between them as you wish. Plastic card for $ 17 and Virtual for $3. Has both Visa and MasterCard.
They offer unnamed cards, and no documents are required if you load it up to $2500. Verified users have no load limits. Both verified and unverified have no daily spend limits, regarding to number of purchases and their values.
Has below average fees, although not always the lowest. 1% when converting BTC to fiat, $2,50 when using the ATM. They ship to 130+ countries, the highest number announced so far. No annuity.
They’re the only service with 24/7 support, and they’re very fast. It really counts when you are abroad and need help with some issue (see below my experience with Xapo).
The Wirex app is a big plus. I was a beta tester and it is pretty slick. Works like a charm for being in beta.

Wirex looks great but not sure about the 1% on BTC->fiat. I have just tried that and the rate was $430/BTC compared to $442 on Bitstamp which is 2.8% fee hidden in the exchange rate.

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I've been hearing a lot of bad things of E-Coin, but it is not all bad. I've been using the Bit-X (coinsbank) card for months now and it is really good. Never had a problem with a payment and the fees are very acceptable.

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Quote from: uniquark on May 20, 2016, 12:06:54 PM

Quote from: saeidza on May 18, 2016, 06:30:19 PM

I'm sorry to say that! But your support is sucks! uI sent two message to your support but I never received any respond.
I want to close my account.

E-coin is only good at deceiving and insulting their customers. Be careful of them.

E-Coin/Wirex did come out of nothing. In just 3/4 months and 1 signature campaign they got a lot of clients. I don't think they expected it nor could handle it which means they overused their own limits and now the customers are bleeding too....

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Quote from: saeidza on May 18, 2016, 06:30:19 PM

I'm sorry to say that! But your support is sucks! uI sent two message to your support but I never received any respond.
I want to close my account.

E-coin is only good at deceiving and insulting their customers. Be careful of them.

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there is of course https://BitPlastic.com ..

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Could you please explain about your card? How much you pay for top up fee? where Can I see the fees ? Is there any dormancy fee ?
Please explain more about fees.

Thank you.

Quote from: ultimatesky on May 18, 2016, 02:37:06 PM

I love the bit-x physical card, I'm now using it for a couple months and its really working great.
I now almost pay everything with it! even my groceries.

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Quote from: gosha@e-coin on May 18, 2016, 11:05:54 AM

Quote from: uniquark on May 18, 2016, 10:31:21 AM

Quote from: gosha@e-coin on May 18, 2016, 08:44:02 AM

Quote from: uniquark on May 17, 2016, 12:19:51 PM

Stop lying. You've hidden it until we started complaining and you still haven't posted anything to warn new users. Also it has nothing to do with external top up, we fund our debit card by btc, not by paypal or credit card. Full of lies. At least don't use them until they solve their bullshits and start talking honestly.
BE CAREFUL OF E-COIN.

man, it's worth talking to someone when the conversation is going both ways. You seem to only talk, not listen at all. The 3-day hold limitation is only for BTC transfers to other wallets. Why are you mixing it up with topping up the card? Why do you keep saying there were no warnings when there were e-mails sent out to all customers? Please, either be constructive, or just don't say anything.

Have asked you about particular problems - no answer.

Have asked you for your registered e-mails to have support address the problems (if you actually are having any) - no answer.

Are you trying to make a name for yourself, or are you just getting paid for posting numerous negative comments?

We don't own the wallets in your website. You own them. You said "To ensure all top ups from external sources clear". But we topped up our debit cards with btc. So that doesn't make any sense.

All I asked is to inform your customers and put some warning in your website. You can remove it whenever you want if it's only temporary. So people won't lock their money in your website. Stop accusing people, answer your support tickets quickly and fix your problems. Don't do shady things secretly. I told you that a few times already.

Struggling to understand you now, to be honest - are we talking about the same thing, or is there just a gross misunderstanding?

Firstly, all users of our platform have individual wallets provided by BitGo and secured by multi-sig (unlike with many other services)
Secondly, which operation are you talking about? The limitation in place is for transferring BTC out to other wallets. Cards can be topped up not just with BTC, but via bank transfers and alternative payment methods (like Alipay, Paypal, etc,) and that's where the potential concerns come from, that is the reason for the 3-day hold.

As for doing things "secretly" - how many e-mails do we need to send out and how can we possibly check that everyone reads them?.. If you had not read them, it doesn't mean we had not notified anyone, can't understand why you keep accusing us of doing anything "shady"..

I'm sorry to say that! But your support is sucks! I sent two message to your support but I never received any respond.
I want to close my account.

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I love the bit-x physical card, I'm now using it for a couple months and its really working great.
I now almost pay everything with it! even my groceries.

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Quote from: uniquark on May 18, 2016, 10:31:21 AM

Quote from: gosha@e-coin on May 18, 2016, 08:44:02 AM

Quote from: uniquark on May 17, 2016, 12:19:51 PM

Stop lying. You've hidden it until we started complaining and you still haven't posted anything to warn new users. Also it has nothing to do with external top up, we fund our debit card by btc, not by paypal or credit card. Full of lies. At least don't use them until they solve their bullshits and start talking honestly.
BE CAREFUL OF E-COIN.

man, it's worth talking to someone when the conversation is going both ways. You seem to only talk, not listen at all. The 3-day hold limitation is only for BTC transfers to other wallets. Why are you mixing it up with topping up the card? Why do you keep saying there were no warnings when there were e-mails sent out to all customers? Please, either be constructive, or just don't say anything.

Have asked you about particular problems - no answer.

Have asked you for your registered e-mails to have support address the problems (if you actually are having any) - no answer.

Are you trying to make a name for yourself, or are you just getting paid for posting numerous negative comments?

We don't own the wallets in your website. You own them. You said "To ensure all top ups from external sources clear". But we topped up our debit cards with btc. So that doesn't make any sense.

All I asked is to inform your customers and put some warning in your website. You can remove it whenever you want if it's only temporary. So people won't lock their money in your website. Stop accusing people, answer your support tickets quickly and fix your problems. Don't do shady things secretly. I told you that a few times already.

Struggling to understand you now, to be honest - are we talking about the same thing, or is there just a gross misunderstanding?

Firstly, all users of our platform have individual wallets provided by BitGo and secured by multi-sig (unlike with many other services)
Secondly, which operation are you talking about? The limitation in place is for transferring BTC out to other wallets. Cards can be topped up not just with BTC, but via bank transfers and alternative payment methods (like Alipay, Paypal, etc,) and that's where the potential concerns come from, that is the reason for the 3-day hold.

As for doing things "secretly" - how many e-mails do we need to send out and how can we possibly check that everyone reads them?.. If you had not read them, it doesn't mean we had not notified anyone, can't understand why you keep accusing us of doing anything "shady"..

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Quote from: gosha@e-coin on May 18, 2016, 08:44:02 AM

Quote from: uniquark on May 17, 2016, 12:19:51 PM

Stop lying. You've hidden it until we started complaining and you still haven't posted anything to warn new users. Also it has nothing to do with external top up, we fund our debit card by btc, not by paypal or credit card. Full of lies. At least don't use them until they solve their bullshits and start talking honestly.
BE CAREFUL OF E-COIN.

man, it's worth talking to someone when the conversation is going both ways. You seem to only talk, not listen at all. The 3-day hold limitation is only for BTC transfers to other wallets. Why are you mixing it up with topping up the card? Why do you keep saying there were no warnings when there were e-mails sent out to all customers? Please, either be constructive, or just don't say anything.

Have asked you about particular problems - no answer.

Have asked you for your registered e-mails to have support address the problems (if you actually are having any) - no answer.

Are you trying to make a name for yourself, or are you just getting paid for posting numerous negative comments?

We don't own the wallets in your website. You own them. You said "To ensure all top ups from external sources clear". But we topped up our debit cards with btc. So that doesn't make any sense.

All I asked is to inform your customers and put some warning in your website. You can remove it whenever you want if it's only temporary. So people won't lock their money in your website. Stop accusing people, answer your support tickets quickly and fix your problems. Don't do shady things secretly. I told you that a few times already.

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Quote from: uniquark on May 17, 2016, 12:19:51 PM

Stop lying. You've hidden it until we started complaining and you still haven't posted anything to warn new users. Also it has nothing to do with external top up, we fund our debit card by btc, not by paypal or credit card. Full of lies. At least don't use them until they solve their bullshits and start talking honestly.
BE CAREFUL OF E-COIN.

man, it's worth talking to someone when the conversation is going both ways. You seem to only talk, not listen at all. The 3-day hold limitation is only for BTC transfers to other wallets. Why are you mixing it up with topping up the card? Why do you keep saying there were no warnings when there were e-mails sent out to all customers? Please, either be constructive, or just don't say anything.

Have asked you about particular problems - no answer.

Have asked you for your registered e-mails to have support address the problems (if you actually are having any) - no answer.

Are you trying to make a name for yourself, or are you just getting paid for posting numerous negative comments?

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Quote from: gosha@e-coin on May 16, 2016, 06:19:41 AM

Quote from: uniquark on May 15, 2016, 10:41:49 AM

Be careful of E-coin. They imposed 3-workday waiting period for withdrawal without any warning.

guys, if you haven't read the warning it doesn't mean there wasn't one.
Via e-mails, on the forum - everywhere. Please, don't make any blaming negative posts without checking first.

Just to re-cap once again:
we are currently improving our 'buy bitcoin' feature. To ensure all top ups from external sources clear without problems (from those external sources), we have imposed a 3-business-day hold on all bitcoins bought. This 3-day hold will be temporary until our 'buy bitcoin' feature moves out of beta phase. In the meantime, your high-security multi-sig BitGo wallets will still hold all your bitcoins safe and secure.

Stop lying. You've hidden it until we started complaining and you still haven't posted anything to warn new users. Also it has nothing to do with external top up, we fund our debit card by btc, not by paypal or credit card. Full of lies. At least don't use them until they solve their bullshits and start talking honestly.
BE CAREFUL OF E-COIN.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/be-careful-e-coinwirexapp-may-be-turning-to-a-scam-1473291
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14870135
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/e-coinio-wirexapp-maybe-a-scaaam-becarefull-edit-seems-fine-for-now-1474219

Read their own thread, full of complaints and problems:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14866762

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Quote from: uniquark on May 15, 2016, 10:41:49 AM

Be careful of E-coin. They imposed 3-workday waiting period for withdrawal without any warning.

guys, if you haven't read the warning it doesn't mean there wasn't one.
Via e-mails, on the forum - everywhere. Please, don't make any blaming negative posts without checking first.

Just to re-cap once again:
we are currently improving our 'buy bitcoin' feature. To ensure all top ups from external sources clear without problems (from those external sources), we have imposed a 3-business-day hold on all bitcoins bought. This 3-day hold will be temporary until our 'buy bitcoin' feature moves out of beta phase. In the meantime, your high-security multi-sig BitGo wallets will still hold all your bitcoins safe and secure.

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Quote from: uniquark on May 15, 2016, 10:41:49 AM

Be careful of E-coin. They imposed 3-workday waiting period for withdrawal without any warning.

Good to know that, its a bit long if you need to wait always for 3 days.

Very nice list, nice that someone made it. I know its not easy so thank you very much. I still don't have debit card. I didn't need it before, but it can be useful thing to have.

Looks like that shift is very good, my friend have xapo and he is very satisfied with that card. I have their wallet so I think maybe to try them first. Well I will wait with that, I don't hurry nowhere.

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