this whole thread is hillarious, 72 gb ddr3 ?! rofl
Topic: [2018-02-12]Bitmain To Release Ethereum ASIC Miner F3 With 72Gb DDR3 Dram In Q2 - page 11. (Read 10509 times)
February 14, 2018, 08:50:41 AM
February 14, 2018, 08:25:46 AM
Using rx 560 chip should be enough to cover 10mh or so. Multiply by 18 i was thinking about 180mh with range 1500-3000 usd and power 18 x 75 watt = 1350 watt. Match up with its PSU Apw3++
IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.
They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.
580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.
The expensive part is memory IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.
They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.
580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.
February 14, 2018, 08:19:13 AM
Does this explain why AMD cards/rigs are coming out on ebay?
February 14, 2018, 08:15:53 AM
Using rx 560 chip should be enough to cover 10mh or so. Multiply by 18 i was thinking about 180mh with range 1500-3000 usd and power 18 x 75 watt = 1350 watt. Match up with its PSU Apw3++
IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.
They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.
580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.
IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.
They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.
580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.
February 14, 2018, 07:28:57 AM
i think this is all not more than just hot air i dont thin ki eth asics are true its not doable with the slow ddr3 rams even gddr3 ram ist to slow eth calculation is done by bandwith from rams and ddr3 or gddr3 are to slow i bet there will never be a miner that can do 600 mhs with just 750 watts of power the next 5 years
I'm not a pro regarding memory technology, but ethash algo seems to favor
fast random access to relatively small amounts of memory, and thats where
system ram excels compared to GDDR
that is more suitable at transferring large chunks of memory
February 14, 2018, 07:01:58 AM
i think this is all not more than just hot air i dont thin ki eth asics are true its not doable with the slow ddr3 rams even gddr3 ram ist to slow eth calculation is done by bandwith from rams and ddr3 or gddr3 are to slow i bet there will never be a miner that can do 600 mhs with just 750 watts of power the next 5 years
February 14, 2018, 05:04:08 AM
You trolls should denote things properly, is not DDR3, it's GDDR3, my god, how uninformed are you trolls? GDDR3 is so different than DDR3. There are hundreds of topics about DDR3 and GDDR3, I advise you clueless trolls to start reading.
Here is one, https://superuser.com/questions/704168/what-is-the-difference-between-gddr3-and-ddr3
And by the way, its all about performance x cost, so stop crying and do something about your idiotic actions, stop buying rx 580 for $1000 then they will never build an asic for ethash.
Here is one, https://superuser.com/questions/704168/what-is-the-difference-between-gddr3-and-ddr3
And by the way, its all about performance x cost, so stop crying and do something about your idiotic actions, stop buying rx 580 for $1000 then they will never build an asic for ethash.
it says on bitmains post DDR3... not gddr3......
Don't bother, he's a troll
February 14, 2018, 04:21:54 AM
Are you really this stupid? Really? They are NOT talking about an ethhash miner of 650Mhash @ 750W. They are talking about EXSISTING ASICS. Litcoin asics probably.
Keep your calm please..
You are correct, a L3+ with modified bios has these hashrate and power consumption (504MH/s @ 800W if not modified)
February 14, 2018, 04:17:05 AM
What would be the hashrate of this machine?
You can't read? 
650MH/s @ 750Watts
I wonder how much will it cost?
Really? You just quoted a random statement from a brand new account with 1(ONE) post in the forum?
I say 12 MH/s @ 6000 Watts and that's provided there are such "ASICs" and this is not just FUD to drop the price of GPUs.
I saw above a question from one person: What would be the hashrate of this machine? and somebody replied: You can't read?
I decided to read all posts but did not see an answer besides that brand new account , and thought that was that
Why do you think it is 12 MH/s @ 6000 Watts ? This is really low, comparing with Panda B3 for example: 230 MH/s @ 1250 Watts.
I'd guess the 12MH/s @ 6000 Watts comment is either taking the piss or doesn't know what they're talking about, leaning towards the former.
February 14, 2018, 04:16:57 AM
What would be the hashrate of this machine?
You can't read? 650MH/s @ 750Watts
I wonder how much will it cost?
Really? You just quoted a random statement from a brand new account with 1(ONE) post in the forum?
I say 12 MH/s @ 6000 Watts and that's provided there are such "ASICs" and this is not just FUD to drop the price of GPUs.
I saw above a question from one person: What would be the hashrate of this machine? and somebody replied: You can't read?
I decided to read all posts but did not see an answer besides that brand new account , and thought that was that
Why do you think it is 12 MH/s @ 6000 Watts ? This is really low, comparing with Panda B3 for example: 230 MH/s @ 1250 Watts.
I think he was just sarcastic with that post of 12 MH/S @ 6000 W
February 14, 2018, 04:06:06 AM
What would be the hashrate of this machine?
You can't read? 650MH/s @ 750Watts
I wonder how much will it cost?
Really? You just quoted a random statement from a brand new account with 1(ONE) post in the forum?
I say 12 MH/s @ 6000 Watts and that's provided there are such "ASICs" and this is not just FUD to drop the price of GPUs.
I saw above a question from one person: What would be the hashrate of this machine? and somebody replied: You can't read?
I decided to read all posts but did not see an answer besides that brand new account , and thought that was that
Why do you think it is 12 MH/s @ 6000 Watts ? This is really low, comparing with Panda B3 for example: 230 MH/s @ 1250 Watts.
February 14, 2018, 03:01:58 AM
What would be the hashrate of this machine?
You can't read? 650MH/s @ 750Watts
I wonder how much will it cost?
Really? You just quoted a random statement from a brand new account with 1(ONE) post in the forum?
I say 12 MH/s @ 6000 Watts and that's provided there are such "ASICs" and this is not just FUD to drop the price of GPUs.
12MH/s @ 6000 watts .... really? old account with lots of post ... hmmm interesting...
a GTX1060 can do more than that at 70watts LOL
new account 1 post, old account lots of post ..
Anyways..
https://news.bitcoin.com/japans-dmm-launches-large-scale-domestic-cryptocurrency-mining-farm-and-showroom/
DMM’s “ASIC machines purchased [were] made in China,” the TV station noted. “The ASIC machines are 650 MH/s (mega hash/sec), and the GPU machines are about 300 MH/s or less.”
The news outlet further noted that “the power consumption is 750W for ASIC and 1900 to 2000W for GPU,” adding that the GPU mining rigs have twelve GPU cards connected to two power supplies.
Are you really this stupid? Really? They are NOT talking about an ethhash miner of 650Mhash @ 750W. They are talking about EXSISTING ASICS. Litcoin asics probably.
Keep your calm please..
February 14, 2018, 12:43:49 AM
I'm convinced that half the people posting in here are account farmers; The amount of low quality posts is astounding. Some Chinese website posted some speculation and now idiots are already talking about forks and the death of Ethereum.
Anyone who thinks Bitmain is going to (publicly) release an Eth Miner needs a reality check. Read the 3rd paragraph in the Mining Centralization section of the Ethereum whitepaper: https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/White-Paper#mining-centralization Specifically the part about poisoning the well.
Anyone who thinks Bitmain is going to (publicly) release an Eth Miner needs a reality check. Read the 3rd paragraph in the Mining Centralization section of the Ethereum whitepaper: https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/White-Paper#mining-centralization Specifically the part about poisoning the well.
February 13, 2018, 09:48:30 PM
This is pretty interesting and I'd like to see how the Ethereum team responds if the rumour ends up being true. Really curious to see what kind of hashing power they will have...
February 13, 2018, 09:42:19 PM
Wonder what Ethereum developers will do if it turns out to be true? If you develop something specifically to be ASIC resistant, obviously IMHO you don’t want ASICS mining your coin. If someone makes an ASIC anyways, knowing you don’t want them mining your creation, then fork your coin and make their ASICs bricks. They will think twice about doing it again.
You must be a troll correct? Their asics can act like a video card concerning algorithms, even if eth devs change the algorithm, their asics can still mine the algorithm. I advise you trolls get to reality and stop paying $1000 for a rx 580, What got you trolls on this situation are yourselves.
I doubt they would have created an asic for ethash if rx 580 was selling for $180, like it used to be before the bullshit.
LOL... Troll... No.... Opinionated... Yes.... I've worked in I.T. for quite a while, so please elaborate when you say the ASIC can act like a video card??? Never heard of an ASIC capable of doing ANY algorithm because they don't exist. A true ASIC is purpose built to do one specific thing in a very fast and efficient manner... If it can adapt to multiple algos it sounds more like an FPGA to me.
February 13, 2018, 09:04:46 PM
Bitmain is preparing the ground for...... Ethereum Cash ! of course !
13 GPU RX580 x 31 Mhs each reach 403 MHs .... cost more than 3500$ and @ 1500/1600 W
If Bitmain reach to 650 Mhs, with lower cost & Wattage.... could be an interested option....
February 13, 2018, 08:55:54 PM
Well I don't know if ETH will fork if this is true they became one of the most centralized coins but as far as the smaller coin UBIQ, MUSIC, and especially PIRL all say they are ASIC resistant so I believe these coins with community support will fork that leaves ETH and ETC what will they do
February 13, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
What would be the hashrate of this machine?
You can't read? 650MH/s @ 750Watts
I wonder how much will it cost?
Really? You just quoted a random statement from a brand new account with 1(ONE) post in the forum?
I say 12 MH/s @ 6000 Watts and that's provided there are such "ASICs" and this is not just FUD to drop the price of GPUs.
12MH/s @ 6000 watts .... really? old account with lots of post ... hmmm interesting...
a GTX1060 can do more than that at 70watts LOL
new account 1 post, old account lots of post ..
Anyways..
https://news.bitcoin.com/japans-dmm-launches-large-scale-domestic-cryptocurrency-mining-farm-and-showroom/
DMM’s “ASIC machines purchased [were] made in China,” the TV station noted. “The ASIC machines are 650 MH/s (mega hash/sec), and the GPU machines are about 300 MH/s or less.”
The news outlet further noted that “the power consumption is 750W for ASIC and 1900 to 2000W for GPU,” adding that the GPU mining rigs have twelve GPU cards connected to two power supplies.
February 13, 2018, 08:36:54 PM
we all seen what happen when a coin forks cause of asics....
vtc is prime example of "no asic" coin that forked what 3 times now???
and look how far it has fallen... forking diff algo is no simple or easy task. there are concequences.
vtc is prime example of "no asic" coin that forked what 3 times now???
and look how far it has fallen... forking diff algo is no simple or easy task. there are concequences.
February 13, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
PoS is pulling the trigger on a gun to your coin's head, but ETH dev's have used the threat of it to dissuade ASIC makers, now that Bitmain are calling their bluff they're going to have to come up with another solution. Whatever they do I think it's a brave man who buys an ETH ASIC.
If ethereum forks, that wouldn't affect the other Ethash coins. Still several to chose from.
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