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Topic: [2019-02-24] 3 Properties,are being sold for cryptocurrencies in the Philippines (Read 250 times)

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Finally, at least the British legal field will evaluate crypto as property, unlike the United States, which does not come to a decision on how to classify it. But does this not give me the opportunity to sell, give and conduct other operations with cryptocurrencies as property as property? For long-term holders, this definition is better than for high-frequency trading.

Yes, that's right, bitcoin and crypto are property, but if you are still mining, then this activity is considered as a business and therefore is also priced at additional rates. And the tax will always be deducted from revenue during the sale of coins (property). Because those who trade often and a little even in a better position than holders
I used to think that if you buy cryptocurrencies and then use them to pay for goods, then you should not pay anything. But when he chatted with Taklimakan in chats with a dude from New Zealand, he explained that they also considered buying a crypto for trading and for paying for services or goods as a taxable event. Moreover, in the second case, this may require payment of income tax. In general, I highly recommend the resource, it’s just convenient to find people with experience to find out all these crypto nuances.
Of course now we are talking about the UK, but I think the countries will try to take an example from each other, so the case of New Zealand can be useful for other residents, thank you. however, it is such double taxes that can prevent the spread of crypto, because it certainly does not make it easy to use if the user has to bear so much financial responsibility

Of course, I would prefer that the tax if it was only for the sale of crypto. Since they equate this to property. But there are still so many imperfections that lawmakers are trying to simply squeeze cryptocurrencies into existing financial schemes. It is not right. Crypto can completely change the money system and they need new rules.
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Finally, at least the British legal field will evaluate crypto as property, unlike the United States, which does not come to a decision on how to classify it. But does this not give me the opportunity to sell, give and conduct other operations with cryptocurrencies as property as property? For long-term holders, this definition is better than for high-frequency trading.

Yes, that's right, bitcoin and crypto are property, but if you are still mining, then this activity is considered as a business and therefore is also priced at additional rates. And the tax will always be deducted from revenue during the sale of coins (property). Because those who trade often and a little even in a better position than holders
I used to think that if you buy cryptocurrencies and then use them to pay for goods, then you should not pay anything. But when he chatted with Taklimakan in chats with a dude from New Zealand, he explained that they also considered buying a crypto for trading and for paying for services or goods as a taxable event. Moreover, in the second case, this may require payment of income tax. In general, I highly recommend the resource, it’s just convenient to find people with experience to find out all these crypto nuances.
Of course now we are talking about the UK, but I think the countries will try to take an example from each other, so the case of New Zealand can be useful for other residents, thank you. however, it is such double taxes that can prevent the spread of crypto, because it certainly does not make it easy to use if the user has to bear so much financial responsibility
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Finally, at least the British legal field will evaluate crypto as property, unlike the United States, which does not come to a decision on how to classify it. But does this not give me the opportunity to sell, give and conduct other operations with cryptocurrencies as property as property? For long-term holders, this definition is better than for high-frequency trading.

Yes, that's right, bitcoin and crypto are property, but if you are still mining, then this activity is considered as a business and therefore is also priced at additional rates. And the tax will always be deducted from revenue during the sale of coins (property). Because those who trade often and a little even in a better position than holders
I used to think that if you buy cryptocurrencies and then use them to pay for goods, then you should not pay anything. But when he chatted with Taklimakan in chats with a dude from New Zealand, he explained that they also considered buying a crypto for trading and for paying for services or goods as a taxable event. Moreover, in the second case, this may require payment of income tax. In general, I highly recommend the resource, it’s just convenient to find people with experience to find out all these crypto nuances.
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Finally, at least the British legal field will evaluate crypto as property, unlike the United States, which does not come to a decision on how to classify it. But does this not give me the opportunity to sell, give and conduct other operations with cryptocurrencies as property as property? For long-term holders, this definition is better than for high-frequency trading.

Yes, that's right, bitcoin and crypto are property, but if you are still mining, then this activity is considered as a business and therefore is also priced at additional rates. And the tax will always be deducted from revenue during the sale of coins (property). Because those who trade often and a little even in a better position than holders
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Finally, at least the British legal field will evaluate crypto as property, unlike the United States, which does not come to a decision on how to classify it. But does this not give me the opportunity to sell, give and conduct other operations with cryptocurrencies as property as property? For long-term holders, this definition is better than for high-frequency trading.
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My only comment on this one is why in Iloilo? Why not they sell properties wherein there are people who can afford it, let's say in the financial district of Makati?

I don't get this part.
Is this Iloilo more expensive or ..cause numbeo shows me prices for houses to be 80% than in the other your mentioned , Makati.

Of course, people living in the city center would afford a house in the center, but I don't understand why the same people wouldn't be interested in these ones... Bad neighborhood? Doesn't look like in the pics.

As for why these properties and not others, probably this guy is the only one accepting cryptos on the entire house market Tongue
Why it isnt possible on iloilo? He do underestimate the financial capabilities of those who live there.Just to say that there would really always have rich people lurking around
no matter which place.Provincial or into big cities and also the owner likes to receive crypto as a payment,its not necessarily for the buyer to be a resident of iloilo since the marketing
goes thru online and scattered then possible buyers might be also from other cities.
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3 Properties, are being sold for cryptocurrencies in the Philippines

The homeowner of not just 1, but 3 houses in the Philippines, is looking to sell them in exchange of cryptocurrencies.
On three separate Facebook posts, Dr. Joel Advincula, licensed broker and realtor at RE/MAX Advantage Iloilo, has recently shared 3 properties being sold in Iloilo City, Philippines.

One of the owners of the said properties, investor Jonha Richman, is open to either cash buyers or “cryptocurrencies” – also known as ‘digital money’ as form of payments.


Full article on https://www.cryptosteem.com/properties-sold-for-cryptocurrencies/

Many people who are worried about their own security avoid appearing in the press to talk about money or selling a property and still asking that the method of payment be by bitcoin. So I wonder why this guy is doing this? Does he want to become famous? if the guy wants bitcoin, then he could sell using Fiat as a means of payment and then he would buy bitcoin.
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My only comment on this one is why in Iloilo? Why not they sell properties wherein there are people who can afford it, let's say in the financial district of Makati?

I don't get this part.
Is this Iloilo more expensive or ..cause numbeo shows me prices for houses to be 80% than in the other your mentioned , Makati.

Of course, people living in the city center would afford a house in the center, but I don't understand why the same people wouldn't be interested in these ones... Bad neighborhood? Doesn't look like in the pics.

As for why these properties and not others, probably this guy is the only one accepting cryptos on the entire house market Tongue
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My only comment on this one is why in Iloilo? Why not they sell properties wherein there are people who can afford it, let's say in the financial district of Makati? I don't know but I have a feeling that it won't attract crypto buyers in its somewhat in the province of the Philippines. They might as well put something for sale in Metro Manila or Makati City.
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This is rather a PR move by him. If he really wants cryptocurrency he can sell it for fiat and then buy crypto. The result will be the same because there are no fes when you buy cryptocurrency OTC and very little fees when you buy on exchange.
Also selling for fiat would be much easier because not many people own crypto compared to those who own fiat.

exactly

Agreed and I reckon this proves that the article is only another clickbait to attempt to get more hits than it would have gotten without the sensationalism.

Without articles overexaggerating or omitting facts, treating rumors as official statements and of course faking stories entirely in some cases the whole press section would be as lively as the Death Valley.



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@cryptosteem. Tell the writer of your article to specify what coins are being accepted by the house sellers. I reckon we should warn them to not accept Ethereum or Ripple as payment hehehe.
Most likely scenario is that a payment processor will be used for the conversion, so there isn't much for the seller(s) to lose here when it comes to depth or volatility. It has been done like this for quite a long period of time now.

Overall, if you have something for sale, and you just want to get fiat, you'll accept any crypto currency that your payment processor accepts. Can't blame people for trying to reach as many rich crypto fanboys at once.

Agreed and I reckon this proves that the article is only another clickbait to attempt to get more hits than it would have gotten without the sensationalism.
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@cryptosteem. Tell the writer of your article to specify what coins are being accepted by the house sellers. I reckon we should warn them to not accept Ethereum or Ripple as payment hehehe.
Most likely scenario is that a payment processor will be used for the conversion, so there isn't much for the seller(s) to lose here when it comes to depth or volatility. It has been done like this for quite a long period of time now.

Overall, if you have something for sale, and you just want to get fiat, you'll accept any crypto currency that your payment processor accepts. Can't blame people for trying to reach as many rich crypto fanboys at once.

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When asked about the move, Jonha Richman, advisor to global hyper-growth companies, including the Litecoin Foundation, and James Richman, private investor at JJRichman, shared
We can already tell that they do accept or had the option to pay LTC.lol

Its not being clarified though on what crypto they would accept but this is really a good news and would be advantage for the crypto users specially into that place.
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@cryptosteem. Tell the writer of your article to specify what coins are being accepted by the house sellers. I reckon we should warn them to not accept Ethereum or Ripple as payment hehehe.
Most likely scenario is that a payment processor will be used for the conversion, so there isn't much for the seller(s) to lose here when it comes to depth or volatility. It has been done like this for quite a long period of time now.

Overall, if you have something for sale, and you just want to get fiat, you'll accept any crypto currency that your payment processor accepts. Can't blame people for trying to reach as many rich crypto fanboys at once.
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I don’t think this is such a big deal, but it’s cool to see how there are some already very open to the use of crypto even while there are limited merchant vendors in the Philippines where you can use and purchase crypto.

If there are clear regulatory standards about crypto, and the government accepts it as a form of payment, maybe there will be more and more people who will use crypto to buy & sell something. But the nature of crypto is not suitable for daily expense imo. Still, it's cool if we can use Bitcoin with lightning to be able to buy something from a supermarket.

Only 3... and sellers on the top of that. Nothing to be excited about. Sure it's better than nothing but it's not like if suddenly there is a wave of people looking to buy a house and paid it exclusively with Bitcoin. To develop the ecosystem we need to start somewhere you can say, and you're right. But only 3 and it hits the news  Roll Eyes

3 is better than none someone said. But yeah, I personally don't think this is groundbreaking or something like that. The nature of properties payment is also unfit to be paid with crypto imo. Maybe the sellers will directly convert it to fiat if there's someone who buy using crypto.
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@cryptosteem. Tell the writer of your article to specify what coins are being accepted by the house sellers. I reckon we should warn them to not accept Ethereum or Ripple as payment hehehe.

In any case, this might also be another clickbait article.
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This is rather a PR move by him. If he really wants cryptocurrency he can sell it for fiat and then buy crypto. The result will be the same because there are no fes when you buy cryptocurrency OTC and very little fees when you buy on exchange.
Also selling for fiat would be much easier because not many people own crypto compared to those who own fiat.

This is likely to be true, but with the unregulated nature of crypto in the Philippines, its especially a place where some fiat-related headaches can be avoided. I know a lot of business in the PI will only take cash: car dealerships, for instance. So if you can pay for something in crypto it would save you a lot of trips to the ATM (only 10,000 PHP, or ~$200 can be withdrawn at a time, and holding huge amounts of cash also makes you a target).

I don’t think it’s a PR move. The owner probably just wanted to add an option for buyers. Maybe he just wants his property to be sold immediately, and he knows that those who can afford it probably might own crypto. I don’t think this is such a big deal, but it’s cool to see how there are some already very open to the use of crypto even while there are limited merchant vendors in the Philippines where you can use and purchase crypto.
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Only 3... and sellers on the top of that. Nothing to be excited about. Sure it's better than nothing but it's not like if suddenly there is a wave of people looking to buy a house and paid it exclusively with Bitcoin. To develop the ecosystem we need to start somewhere you can say, and you're right. But only 3 and it hits the news  Roll Eyes
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“We are big proponents of cryptocurrencies and think we should start expanding the conversation towards seeing it as a viable payment option for purchases. ..."

I personally don't trust such statements, especially when they come from real estate salesmen. Those people will do anything for profits and they will never risk losing a dime for an idea. It is very likely that the price in BTC/LTC is going to be high enough so that if they exchange the crypto for fiat right away they'll get an amount bigger than what they'd get if selling for fiat.

This article would be more valuable if it contained the prices for similar properties in the same region and the prices of the properties in crypto that Jonha Richman is asking for them.
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A crypto accepting owner would be an ideal situation for many. No worries about having to sell, getting frozen on exchanges, having your bank freak out when the fiat arrives. You'd have to set aside some for tax depending on where you are but at least the vital transaction goes through without a hitch.
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These guys are smart, no point in asking for cash which won't have any increasing value in the bank. Get some bitcoin and watch it pump 10x per year
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