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England world cup squad 2019


Eoin Morgan (captain), Moeen Ali, Jonny Bairstow, Jos Buttler (wicketkeeper), Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Alex Hales, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.

Looks pretty balanced team, little controversy and different point of view over jofra archer. Selectors want to include him in squad but current players objected that jofra should not play in world cup.

Reason : jofra is born in Barbados and qualified to playing for English team in march 2019 and it's not fair to other cricketers who are already member of England team and performing well for country.

Michael Vaughan says that jofra will play for England in world cup or he will be naked 😂😂
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WOW! Those are some awesome ranks. I didn't know that Bumrah was the number one bowler in the world LOL. Honestly, it feels like there are no longer some very good fast bowlers available in the world anymore, the "great" bowlers like Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar.

If India wins the world cup, I'm sure that the major role will be played by Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal.
Oh man!
Some golden bowling legends in their time:
Brett Lee, Shoaib Akhtar
Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis
Courtney Walsh, Curtly Ambrose

When you have their names, you see speed (Wasim had variation. He could hit a coin on the pitch in a raw). Now a days fast bolers are meh, we don't mind to hit us a boundary but back then, hitting a boundary used to make the bowler angry.
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No one in their right mind will say that the Indian batting line-up is weak. Virat Kohli alone is capable of defeating all the opposition teams. Their only concern should be about the pace-bowling options. One thing that I noticed during the 1999 World Cup is that the pacers need some time to get adjusted to the English conditions. Back then, the Indian bowlers struggled initially (esp. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad), but as the tournament progressed, they started performing consistently.
India's batting team is always strong, it was and it is without any doubt however there were always concerns with their blowing unit. But, in the last few years they improved in this department and doing very well.

I think it will be injustice to the Indian current bowling unit with the bowling unit they used to have in 1999. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad were not as good as the bowlers they have now.

Jasprit Bhumrah (Rank: 1 Point: 774)
Kuldeep Yadav (Rank: 7 Point: 689)
Yuzvendra Chahal (Rank: 8 Point: 680)
Bhuvneshwar Kumar (Rank: 15 Point: 619)
Mohammed Shami (Rank: 34 Point: 549)
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/odi/bowling

WOW! Those are some awesome ranks. I didn't know that Bumrah was the number one bowler in the world LOL. Honestly, it feels like there are no longer some very good fast bowlers available in the world anymore, the "great" bowlers like Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar.

If India wins the world cup, I'm sure that the major role will be played by Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal.
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No one in their right mind will say that the Indian batting line-up is weak. Virat Kohli alone is capable of defeating all the opposition teams. Their only concern should be about the pace-bowling options. One thing that I noticed during the 1999 World Cup is that the pacers need some time to get adjusted to the English conditions. Back then, the Indian bowlers struggled initially (esp. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad), but as the tournament progressed, they started performing consistently.
India's batting team is always strong, it was and it is without any doubt however there were always concerns with their blowing unit. But, in the last few years they improved in this department and doing very well.

I think it will be injustice to the Indian current bowling unit with the bowling unit they used to have in 1999. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad were not as good as the bowlers they have now.

Jasprit Bhumrah (Rank: 1 Point: 774)
Kuldeep Yadav (Rank: 7 Point: 689)
Yuzvendra Chahal (Rank: 8 Point: 680)
Bhuvneshwar Kumar (Rank: 15 Point: 619)
Mohammed Shami (Rank: 34 Point: 549)
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/odi/bowling
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WTH? No Amir?

Amir left out of Pakistan's World Cup squad

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1188332

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Fast bowler Mohammad Amir has been omitted from Pakistan’s 15-man preliminary squad for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup, but has been included for their ODI series against England.

I think PCB will first have a look at Amir's current performance in the ODI series against England (which will be played just before the World Cup). If Amir succeeds in satisfying the coach and captain within the series, he'll get the chance in the World Cup squad.
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Also let’s hope their decision to drop Pant doesn’t backfire, cause India’s batting line up is weak except Kohli who can alone score a lot of runs.
India's batting lineup is weak? Lol. The Indian batting lineup is one of the most feared batting lineups in the world currently. MSD, Rohit, Hardik, Dhawan, Kohli etc are some of the best batsmen in the world.

You need to do your research before making such bold statements.

No one in their right mind will say that the Indian batting line-up is weak. Virat Kohli alone is capable of defeating all the opposition teams. Their only concern should be about the pace-bowling options. One thing that I noticed during the 1999 World Cup is that the pacers need some time to get adjusted to the English conditions. Back then, the Indian bowlers struggled initially (esp. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad), but as the tournament progressed, they started performing consistently.
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Also let’s hope their decision to drop Pant doesn’t backfire, cause India’s batting line up is weak except Kohli who can alone score a lot of runs.
India's batting lineup is weak? Lol. The Indian batting lineup is one of the most feared batting lineups in the world currently. MSD, Rohit, Hardik, Dhawan, Kohli etc are some of the best batsmen in the world.

You need to do your research before making such bold statements.
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Hey while it’s true the ex Indian captain has been been choosen for his experience, and his abilities behind the wicket. I feel the selecters have erred in not picking Pant who would have provided support for his slow batting, and he could also play the game changer innings which would have won India many matches. Also let’s hope their decision to drop Pant doesn’t backfire, cause India’s batting line up is weak except Kohli who can alone score a lot of runs.

Believe me I am big fan of rishab Pant and I really wanted to see him in Indian squad and then in playing XI for worldcup.

Also I heard the news that majority of selectors voted for rishab Pant but virat kohli refused to take rishab in squad due to his irresponsible shots. According to him he's not trusted batsman in odi atm.

And virat is not wrong here because rishab didn't do any justice with himself either, we all have seen how he threw away his wicket on many occasions.

Indian middle order is very shaky and not even tested properly because Dinesh Karthik didn't batted much on number 4 or 5 and Vijay Shankar is new. They both have capabilities and they proved time to time. Let's just hope that they can perform in big tournament as well. If not then India is in big trouble here. Then this discussion will catch up some fire " why Pant was not selected?

Kedar and hardik can play their part as well. Hardik can do wonders in lower order if he gets going.

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@ raja bhai I understand your sentiments about Dhoni's failure, I have seen his bad performances as well but only with the bat so far. Having said that.

Indian fans and team management not expecting Dhoni to play match winning inning with the bat. Everyone is aware of that he's not young anymore and can't play destructive innings.

Dhoni's role in middle order is more like a anchoring the inning if Indian top order fail to perform and wickets keep falling from another end. If in this world cup Dhoni managed to maintain his strike rate close to 100, then job well done.

It's true that during his innings sometimes he creates pressure on non striking batsman but it's part of the deal and comes with the packaging, no one can argue or do much about that.

His main role here is wicket keeping and he's arguably one of the best and clever wicket keeper in the world cricket. Dhoni has tons of strategies to share with bowlers and viral from behind the wickets.

Hey while it’s true the ex Indian captain has been been choosen for his experience, and his abilities behind the wicket. I feel the selecters have erred in not picking Pant who would have provided support for his slow batting, and he could also play the game changer innings which would have won India many matches. Also let’s hope their decision to drop Pant doesn’t backfire, cause India’s batting line up is weak except Kohli who can alone score a lot of runs.
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@ raja bhai I understand your sentiments about Dhoni's failure, I have seen his bad performances as well but only with the bat so far. Having said that.

Indian fans and team management not expecting Dhoni to play match winning inning with the bat. Everyone is aware of that he's not young anymore and can't play destructive innings.

Dhoni's role in middle order is more like a anchoring the inning if Indian top order fail to perform and wickets keep falling from another end. If in this world cup Dhoni managed to maintain his strike rate close to 100, then job well done.

It's true that during his innings sometimes he creates pressure on non striking batsman but it's part of the deal and comes with the packaging, no one can argue or do much about that.

His main role here is wicket keeping and he's arguably one of the best and clever wicket keeper in the world cricket. Dhoni has tons of strategies to share with bowlers and viral from behind the wickets.
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It's a fact that Dhoni may have poor strike rate but whom else do you think fir for that position, with all of his experiences, tactics? You know there's no other option. Kartik will barely play better than Dhoni. KL Rahul isn't too performed as well as not experienced. Whom do you think better fit for the place?
Some people just don't understand the importance of MSD which is why they underestimate him whenever he fails and he replies in an epic manner always.

There are a lot more important factors when compared to strike rate like Dhoni's experience(He freaking lifted a World cup in both formats), amazing batsman, lightning fast wicket-keeping skills, ability to stay calm and composed and the list goes on. Kohli is lucky to have by his side!
And don't forget in the field, most of the time you will see Dhoni is actively advising the players. Kholi is the official captain but in the field Dhoni's role is more than a captain.

Check IPL performance of RCB. RCB has a very strong team. All are performer but why are they failing. Bad management, bad calling. Kohli takes bad decision and we are seeing the result already. They are out from the tournament losing 7 matches out of the 8 so far if I am not wrong.
Kohli basically could not lead a team of strong players effectively while MSD almost always does it which is why I will be sad to see him hang his boots most likely once the World cup concludes.

I am hoping that Kohli won't repeat the same mistakes with the main team which he made with RCB.

RCB has some of the best players in the world, but it is not a very balanced team. For example, if someone fails in the pace-bowling department, then there is no good replacement. Look at the current form of Umesh Yadav. Also, they don't have any world class spinners like Rashid Khan.
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It's a fact that Dhoni may have poor strike rate but whom else do you think fir for that position, with all of his experiences, tactics? You know there's no other option. Kartik will barely play better than Dhoni. KL Rahul isn't too performed as well as not experienced. Whom do you think better fit for the place?
Some people just don't understand the importance of MSD which is why they underestimate him whenever he fails and he replies in an epic manner always.

There are a lot more important factors when compared to strike rate like Dhoni's experience(He freaking lifted a World cup in both formats), amazing batsman, lightning fast wicket-keeping skills, ability to stay calm and composed and the list goes on. Kohli is lucky to have by his side!
And don't forget in the field, most of the time you will see Dhoni is actively advising the players. Kholi is the official captain but in the field Dhoni's role is more than a captain.

Check IPL performance of RCB. RCB has a very strong team. All are performer but why are they failing. Bad management, bad calling. Kohli takes bad decision and we are seeing the result already. They are out from the tournament losing 7 matches out of the 8 so far if I am not wrong.
Kohli basically could not lead a team of strong players effectively while MSD almost always does it which is why I will be sad to see him hang his boots most likely once the World cup concludes.

I am hoping that Kohli won't repeat the same mistakes with the main team which he made with RCB.
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It's a fact that Dhoni may have poor strike rate but whom else do you think fir for that position, with all of his experiences, tactics? You know there's no other option. Kartik will barely play better than Dhoni. KL Rahul isn't too performed as well as not experienced. Whom do you think better fit for the place?
Some people just don't understand the importance of MSD which is why they underestimate him whenever he fails and he replies in an epic manner always.

There are a lot more important factors when compared to strike rate like Dhoni's experience(He freaking lifted a World cup in both formats), amazing batsman, lightning fast wicket-keeping skills, ability to stay calm and composed and the list goes on. Kohli is lucky to have by his side!
I just left a comment in the IPL discussion thread. CSK team is not a good one but in the shade of MSD, CSK turned to a big one. There's no point of thinking team India without MSD for now. And MSD always do the best when it's mostly needed.
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It's a fact that Dhoni may have poor strike rate but whom else do you think fir for that position, with all of his experiences, tactics? You know there's no other option. Kartik will barely play better than Dhoni. KL Rahul isn't too performed as well as not experienced. Whom do you think better fit for the place?
Some people just don't understand the importance of MSD which is why they underestimate him whenever he fails and he replies in an epic manner always.

There are a lot more important factors when compared to strike rate like Dhoni's experience(He freaking lifted a World cup in both formats), amazing batsman, lightning fast wicket-keeping skills, ability to stay calm and composed and the list goes on. Kohli is lucky to have by his side!
And don't forget in the field, most of the time you will see Dhoni is actively advising the players. Kholi is the official captain but in the field Dhoni's role is more than a captain.

Check IPL performance of RCB. RCB has a very strong team. All are performer but why are they failing. Bad management, bad calling. Kohli takes bad decision and we are seeing the result already. They are out from the tournament losing 7 matches out of the 8 so far if I am not wrong.
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It's a fact that Dhoni may have poor strike rate but whom else do you think fir for that position, with all of his experiences, tactics? You know there's no other option. Kartik will barely play better than Dhoni. KL Rahul isn't too performed as well as not experienced. Whom do you think better fit for the place?
Some people just don't understand the importance of MSD which is why they underestimate him whenever he fails and he replies in an epic manner always.

There are a lot more important factors when compared to strike rate like Dhoni's experience(He freaking lifted a World cup in both formats), amazing batsman, lightning fast wicket-keeping skills, ability to stay calm and composed and the list goes on. Kohli is lucky to have him by his side!
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First of all, I did mention in my post that I'm not following Dhoni in this year's IPL, so my analysis was based on Dhoni's recent performances in international ODIs, not on his performance with CSK. Moreover, it's a BIG MISTAKE that Indian cricket board and Pakistani cricket board are making, by selecting the team for the world cup (that is going to be played on a 50-over format) on the basis of players' performance in these 20-over format leagues (such as IPL and PSL). Moreover, in my post, I did admit that he has some very nice experience that can help the team, but the real problem that I think he's going to create during the world cup is by playing with poor strike rate. IMO, he'll look like an epic failure at that time.

You'll understand what I'm saying once India plays 4-5 matches of the world cup (in England). Smiley
It's a fact that Dhoni may have poor strike rate but whom else do you think fir for that position, with all of his experiences, tactics? You know there's no other option. Kartik will barely play better than Dhoni. KL Rahul isn't too performed as well as not experienced. Whom do you think better fit for the place?
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Indian Team Squad World Cup 2019
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KL Rahul is in good form right now , he scored a century couple of matches ago and I feel its a good decision to include him . I am happy about choosing Dinesh Karthik over Pant for this world cup , right choice.

If you are choosing to ignore India A, domestic performance and other potential candidates or favoritism case, or the hard fact that he got the chance on England tour because of his good 2018 ipl season (then failed in England miserably)

Then yeah he's the most deserving candidate and we should choose world cup squad based on ipl where someone scoring run on flat pitch, with small boundaries and against average domestic bowlers.

Like I mentioned some time ago about selection criteria for KL Rahul.

1. Ipl contract - checked
2. Ass licking - checked
3. Tattoos - checked

Now I am just hoping that he clicked this time in England with his top notch performance and contribute to team India's victory. That's what matters in the end.

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First of all, I did mention in my post that I'm not following Dhoni in this year's IPL, so my analysis was based on Dhoni's recent performances in international ODIs, not on his performance with CSK. Moreover, it's a BIG MISTAKE that Indian cricket board and Pakistani cricket board are making, by selecting the team for the world cup (that is going to be played on a 50-over format) on the basis of players' performance in these 20-over format leagues (such as IPL and PSL). Moreover, in my post, I did admit that he has some very nice experience that can help the team, but the real problem that I think he's going to create during the world cup is by playing with poor strike rate. IMO, he'll look like an epic failure at that time.

You'll understand what I'm saying once India plays 4-5 matches of the world cup (in England). Smiley
I gotta admit that your analysis here is an epic failure buddy. Too many people like you underestimated MSD and got burnt for obvious reasons. Strike rate is obviously not everything. Anyway, lets just agree to disagree and move forward.
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I would have selected Anamul in the place of Mosaddek. Abu Jayed is a new player, he seems to be doing well. However, I believe Bangladesh will have a better tournament than the previous. Wishing best luck for my native, Team Bangladesh.
Anamul has been under performed after he getting back from injury. He didn't have a good performance in the local series too. There's no mean of calling him into the team. Mosaddek is a good edition I think. He played some good innings.
Taskin Ahmed would be a good asset if he didn't ruled out of the team because of his fitness.
The only wrong decision is- not calling Imrul Kayes. He is experienced and had some good innings last days, even in the BPL too. I think there's some political issue which is why Imrul Kayes isn't called which I hate the most of Sub Continental country.
Anyway, I hope for the betterment for Bangladesh World Cup Journey.
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First of all, I did mention in my post that I'm not following Dhoni in this year's IPL, so my analysis was based on Dhoni's recent performances in international ODIs, not on his performance with CSK. Moreover, it's a BIG MISTAKE that Indian cricket board and Pakistani cricket board are making, by selecting the team for the world cup (that is going to be played on a 50-over format) on the basis of players' performance in these 20-over format leagues (such as IPL and PSL). Moreover, in my post, I did admit that he has some very nice experience that can help the team, but the real problem that I think he's going to create during the world cup is by playing with poor strike rate. IMO, he'll look like an epic failure at that time.

You'll understand what I'm saying once India plays 4-5 matches of the world cup (in England). Smiley

Russian team for the World Cup :-P
Just for fun
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  Ashwani Chopra([captain] Right arm bowler and Batsman)
   Alexander Esin (Right hand batsman)
   Alexander Bogatyrev (Left arm Batsman and Right arm medium fast bowler)
   Andrey Bogatyrev (Right arm medium fast bowler)
   Andrey Shchpilo (Wicketkeeper batsman)
   Saqib Shaikh (Right arm batsman and medium fast bowler)
   Alexey Vasilyev (left arm wicket keeper batsman)
   Pavel Akishev (Right arm medium pacer)
   Alexander Vasilyev (left hand batsman and wkt keeper)
   Egor Sarubhukov (Left hand batsman)
   Ashok Chowdhary (Right hand batsman)
   Atul Tiagi (Right hand batsman)
   Khalil Rakhman (Right arm bowler and Batsman)
   Manjit Bhatia  (Right arm bowler and Batsman)
   Rashid Mukhkhamed (Left hand batsman and right arm spinner)
   Giaz Madzhid (Right arm fast bowler)
   Zeeshan Qureshi (allrounder)
   Mikhael Gulin (Right arm medium pace and left hand batsman)
   Alexey Strakhov (Left hand batsman)
   Nic Britz (Coach team Russia)
   Vicktor Sukhotin (Official Scorer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_national_cricket_team
Interesting. Never knew there was a Russian cricket team out there. Majority of these players don't even seem like they are Russian natives. Nothing surprising at all in this case.

Yup, most of the Russian team is composed of South Asian (Indian, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi) players. However, it still feels good to have Russia in the world cup! Smiley

>Pakistan to announce squad for World Cup 2019 on April 18
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