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@Pffrt Agreed Khwaja playing very good cricket for Oz and it would be a big mistake if he didn't make into World cup squad. there is cutthroat but healthy competition in OZ team for the opening pair between Khwaja, Finch, and Warner.

Chances are all of them going to make in 15 men squad easily but in playing 11 only 2 can play.
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Lol. Who the heck are you people? Population does not matter? Number of countries only matter? Do you people even think before posting such nonsensical bullshit?  Do you even realise how much cricketers earn?

I have travelled around the world and I know how popular Cricket is. There are many links like the one that I just provided that state how Cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world. Also, I don't really care whether you are willing to accept the truth or not.

No need to get ballistic when someone post the facts. If you use such rude and arrogant language for your posts, then everyone is going to add you to their ignore lists.

1. No one really care how much your cricketers earn. The fact is that cricket is essentially an Indian sport. It has hardly any influence outside India/Indian diaspora.
2. You just proved that you have never traveled outside India. This would give a better idea about the popularity of various sports:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_the_most_valuable_sports_teams
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_the_world%27s_highest-paid_athletes
https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/06/top-10-most-popular-sports-in-the-world-by-participation/

3. Cricket is not even a part of the Olympics. So I wouldn't even consider it as a "sport".
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Lol. Seriously? Think before posting such silly bullshit. No matter what what you say, the fact is that Cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world and facts prove that which is why no one really cares whether you are willing to accept the truth or not.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html

The population doesn't matter much. It's the number of countries which is going to matter. Let's compare:

Cricket world cup: 10 countries
Hockey world cup: 16 countries
Football world cup: 48 countries (from 2026)
Olympics: 206 countries
Basketball: 32 countries
Boxing: 85 countries
Rugby 7s: 24 countries
Volleyball: 24 countries
Baseball: 16 countries
Handball: 24 countries
Taekwondo: 177 countries

Just look at the above list, and it is clear that cricket is one of the least popular sports in the world. Just because cricket is played by the Indians and the Indian diaspora, it does not qualify as a global sport.

And one more thing. The link that you had given has no source. How this 2.5 billion figure is reached? South Asia may contribute to 1 billion and Indian diaspora another 10 million. At the most cricket may have 1.1 billion fans. It has zero fans in nations such as China, Japan, Korea, Brazil, USA, Russia.etc.  
Lol. Who the heck are you people? Population does not matter? Number of countries only matter? Do you people even think before posting such nonsensical bullshit?  Do you even realise how much cricketers earn?

I have travelled around the world and I know how popular Cricket is. There are many links like the one that I just provided that state how Cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world. Also, I don't really care whether you are willing to accept the truth or not.
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At the most cricket may have 1.1 billion fans. It has zero fans in nations such as China, Japan, Korea, Brazil, USA, Russia.etc. 
Really, zero? Brazil is playing cricket and an associate member of ICC. Maybe the popularity is very low but still they are playing. Regarding world cup, there are some more countries playing cricket regularly and one of the popular game in their country too but they are not qualified. ICC declared that top 10 teams will play the world cup. Otherwise, it could have 14 too. Check the list of popular sportsman and you will end up finding a lot of cricketers too.
As per ESPN top 20 famous athletes-
Virat Kohli is at number 7
Dhoni at 13
Yuvraj at 18
Including CR7, Lebron James, Messi, Neymar respectively in 1-4th position.
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Lol. Seriously? Think before posting such silly bullshit. No matter what what you say, the fact is that Cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world and facts prove that which is why no one really cares whether you are willing to accept the truth or not.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html

The population doesn't matter much. It's the number of countries which is going to matter. Let's compare:

Cricket world cup: 10 countries
Hockey world cup: 16 countries
Football world cup: 48 countries (from 2026)
Olympics: 206 countries
Basketball: 32 countries
Boxing: 85 countries
Rugby 7s: 24 countries
Volleyball: 24 countries
Baseball: 16 countries
Handball: 24 countries
Taekwondo: 177 countries

Just look at the above list, and it is clear that cricket is one of the least popular sports in the world. Just because cricket is played by the Indians and the Indian diaspora, it does not qualify as a global sport.

And one more thing. The link that you had given has no source. How this 2.5 billion figure is reached? South Asia may contribute to 1 billion and Indian diaspora another 10 million. At the most cricket may have 1.1 billion fans. It has zero fans in nations such as China, Japan, Korea, Brazil, USA, Russia.etc. 
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Surprisingly he ruled out Usman Khwaja and Hazelwood
https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1115373903503712256
In last couple of series, Usman Khawaja is the most performed player.

India tour of Australia
- One Down
1st ODI- 59 from 81
2nd ODI- 21 from 23 (run out)
3rd ODI- 34 from 51

Australia tour of India- Opener
1st ODI- 50 from 76
2nd ODI- 38 from 37
3rd ODI- 104 from 113
4th ODI- 91 from 99
5th ODI- 100 from 106

Australia vs Pakistan in UAE- Opener
1st ODI- 24 from 30
2nd ODI- 88 from 109
3rd ODI- 0 from 6
4th ODI- 62 from 78
5th ODI- 98 from 111

In last 13 matches-
4 centuries
6 half centuries

Only a very few batsman can perform such continuous. I assume Warne has no brain, sorry but..

Seems like Sachin still hits him boundary in his dream  Cheesy
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My opinion is that it's too early to pick a team. Hard to have the outright. I had a quick look in bet365 and according to them Oz has the most chances although I don't think they will be correct.

I guess there are good chances for India and England.

I respect your opinion, but i think South Africa is best team and also Australia, May be you are disagree with my opinion, but as you said it is too early to judge which team will be better but i think after 4 or 5 matches then we quickly judge which team will be nearest to win the world cup, but my vote for South Africa. 
legendary
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Shane Warne suggested his 15 men squad for World Cup 2019

1.Warner  2.Short  3.Finch  4.Smith  5.Maxwell  6.Stoinis  7.Carey  8.Cummins  9.Starc  10.Richardson J (if fit)  11.Zampa

Reserve

12.Marsh S  13.N Lyon  14.A Turner  15.Coulter-Nile

Surprisingly he ruled out Usman Khwaja and Hazelwood
https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1115373903503712256



@eaLiTy @Sithara007

100% agreed with you on this that the majority of cricket viewers belongs to South Asia but I don't see any wrong in this. Our discussion should focus on what ICC doing for World cricket, as of now they are going slow but they indeed trying hard in this regard.

I somehow agree with the @Sithara007 point of view because I am in favor of more countries participating in the Cricket World Cup but not accusations and name changing of World Cup lol.

@Royse bhai got tired repeating the same argument, again and again,  Grin As long as we are discussing cricket related issue within a healthy and respectful manner then it's all fine.
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Okay let's not make this post talking back and forth about the popularity, who play and who do not play types of arguable comments. In this forum, the cricket community is very small. Honestly speaking there are only few of us. I think I can count them easily and call their names however I am sure there will be more in the future. Let's enjoy the matches and move on.
It was just a small banter to keep the communication going buddy and it is nothing personal nor never intended to hurt anyone's feelings, sure it is a small community of cricket lovers here and let the conversation continue. Wink

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To me, the popularity or anything else about cricket does not matter. I love cricket, I go crazy when my team wins, hit sixes, hit fours, takes wickets. That's matter for me. And I will be doing whatever I can do in my power to give my time and wealth to this sports.
Cheers :-)
Now a days i watch cricket when ever i get time, there was a time when i used to watch every ball being bowled and i remember almost all the matches i watched and a time where i used to spend the entire day in the cricket ground playing all day long but with time and age some things change for the better and that is life. Smiley
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Okay let's not make this post talking back and forth about the popularity, who play and who do not play types of arguable comments. In this forum, the cricket community is very small. Honestly speaking there are only few of us. I think I can count them easily and call their names however I am sure there will be more in the future. Let's enjoy the matches and move on.

To me, the popularity or anything else about cricket does not matter. I love cricket, I go crazy when my team wins, hit sixes, hit fours, takes wickets. That's matter for me. And I will be doing whatever I can do in my power to give my time and wealth to this sports.

Cheers :-)
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@Royse guess you are talking about this post?

@eaLiTy you might wanna Click this
Yh this was the post. Thanks bud.
@eaLiTy, feel free to read those references. Cricket is not only popular in India but in the whole world. Over 2 Billion people loves cricket. Not a small number :-)
What i was trying to tell is that the huge popularity of the sport is because of the huge population in these countries, like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and their combined population will be around 1.8 Billion, add Srilanka and Afghanistan combined you will get over 2 Billion people  Cheesy, it was just a jab i intended in my last post, the reality i know is that i have being to some European countries where they have not heard about the sport of cricket, it is very popular in common wealth countries and only these countries are playing cricket in international level too, in layman terms which ever countries the British conquered during their reign, they play cricket Cheesy, i did not dispute about the popularity of the sport and i know very well how popular it is in Asian countries and GCC where you will see many tournaments on a weekly basis.

@JSRAW, cheers mate.
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I am very exited to see a world cup match Between india vs Pakistan  which is start at 16th june. Pakistan national selection committee has invited 23 players to complete a fitness test ahead of the announcement of their squad for the World Cup, beginning May 30 in England.every Cricket lover waiting to see this match.   
legendary
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Loved by billions? I can count 1.5 billion in South Asia (India+Pakistan+Bangladesh). There may be a few million outside (mostly the Indian diaspora). Cricket is the no.1 sport only in South Asia. Even in countries such as Australia and England, its popularity is much lower than that of other sports such as football and boxing. A tournament played by just 10 countries (of that 5 in South Asia) can't be called a "world" cup. They should rename it to something like Commonwealth cricket championship.

Its good to see that you now moved on from your previous accusations and talking about Cricket now.

I suggest you should check the links which already posted in this thread by other posters. this would clear your confusion about Cricket popularity around the World. It ranks 2nd in the world.

I agree In England and Australia cricket is not the most popular sport despite being a national sport but its arguably in 2 and 3rd spot when competing with Football and Netball/NRL respectively. Having said that you might wanna check Cricket craze during Ashes too.

In case you don't know there are almost 90+ countries who play cricket as an Associate member, but they are yet to qualify for Full Member. Recently Afganistan and Ireland promoted as a Full member. I am sure you know what's the condition of Afganistan. its war-torn country and not very rich but still they managed to qualify for Full membership. only because of their dedication and love for the game. if they can then everybody can.

If you think ICC doing nothing for World Cricket then that might be news for you that ICC already Gave 20-20 status to All Associate Members.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23324980/t20s-all-icc-members-international-status

And I strongly suggest that you should Google " World Cricket League" and check process of qualifier. I am sure, after checking this you will retract your quote
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can't be called a "world" cup. They should rename it to something like Commonwealth cricket championship.
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I go with Juggy777. I am not sure what made Sithara007 to say something like this. Cricket is the 2nd most playing sports in the world and loved by Billions.

I expect this world cup will be one of the best entertaining event in the history.

Loved by billions? I can count 1.5 billion in South Asia (India+Pakistan+Bangladesh). There may be a few million outside (mostly the Indian diaspora). Cricket is the no.1 sport only in South Asia. Even in countries such as Australia and England, its popularity is much lower than that of other sports such as football and boxing. A tournament played by just 10 countries (of that 5 in South Asia) can't be called a "world" cup. They should rename it to something like Commonwealth cricket championship.
Lol. Seriously? Think before posting such silly bullshit. No matter what what you say, the fact is that Cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world and facts prove that which is why no one really cares whether you are willing to accept the truth or not.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html


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Loved by billions? I can count 1.5 billion in South Asia (India+Pakistan+Bangladesh). There may be a few million outside (mostly the Indian diaspora). Cricket is the no.1 sport only in South Asia. Even in countries such as Australia and England, its popularity is much lower than that of other sports such as football and boxing. A tournament played by just 10 countries (of that 5 in South Asia) can't be called a "world" cup. They should rename it to something like Commonwealth cricket championship.
Not sure how you come up with these numbers. I think you need to do some research before brining out some of your opinion.

And no one is here saying that cricket is no 1 in the world. We all are saying it's the number 2 sports :-D

By the way, boxing is not that much popular in the countries you mentioned. Not sure about Australia but in England, I think I know better about here. I am not only talking about England but the entire United Kingdom FYI.
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I go with Juggy777. I am not sure what made Sithara007 to say something like this. Cricket is the 2nd most playing sports in the world and loved by Billions.

I expect this world cup will be one of the best entertaining event in the history.

Loved by billions? I can count 1.5 billion in South Asia (India+Pakistan+Bangladesh). There may be a few million outside (mostly the Indian diaspora). Cricket is the no.1 sport only in South Asia. Even in countries such as Australia and England, its popularity is much lower than that of other sports such as football and boxing. A tournament played by just 10 countries (of that 5 in South Asia) can't be called a "world" cup. They should rename it to something like Commonwealth cricket championship.
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Wait for next 30-50 years Cheesy China will join the big 3 tables ( Indian monopoly finished then lol in terms of viewership), Title would change to Big 4 (England, Aus, India, and China). Japan and Korea doing their best as well. Canada leading the way, Americans trying hard too.

In the Western national team, Players from Indian subcontinent can easily migrate if they want to and they do that on a regular basis, another way to create diversity in World cricket.

Things will change in coming years and we do not know exactly will only china will overtake or their may be just some other country that can take a backdoor entry and come out with the higher viewership for some sport. Yes will need to wait and see for that.

Oh man, anything is possible if China wants to take over. I mean look at the size of their land and the population.

Area: 9.597 million km²
Population: 1.386 billion
2017 data by the way.

Sooner or later they will become the super power. India has the potential too.
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Whatever the growth for cricket, I think it will always stay in the 2nd place. No one can overtake the popularity of football/soccer in my opinion. It's true that cricket crazy people are mostly in south Asia but everywhere in the world you will find people play football.

Wait for next 30-50 years Cheesy China will join the big 3 tables ( Indian monopoly finished then lol in terms of viewership), Title would change to Big 4 (England, Aus, India, and China). Japan and Korea doing their best as well. Canada leading the way, Americans trying hard too.

In the Western national team, Players from Indian subcontinent can easily migrate if they want to and they do that on a regular basis, another way to create diversity in World cricket.

Things will change in coming years and we do not know exactly will only china will overtake or their may be just some other country that can take a backdoor entry and come out with the higher viewership for some sport. Yes will need to wait and see for that.
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Whatever the growth for cricket, I think it will always stay in the 2nd place. No one can overtake the popularity of football/soccer in my opinion. It's true that cricket crazy people are mostly in south Asia but everywhere in the world you will find people play football.

Wait for next 30-50 years Cheesy China will join the big 3 tables ( Indian monopoly finished then lol in terms of viewership), Title would change to Big 4 (England, Aus, India, and China). Japan and Korea doing their best as well. Canada leading the way, Americans trying hard too.

In the Western national team, Players from Indian subcontinent can easily migrate if they want to and they do that on a regular basis, another way to create diversity in World cricket.
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The 2nd most popular sport in the world(Cricket) continues to rise in popularity over time!
Whatever the growth for cricket, I think it will always stay in the 2nd place. No one can overtake the popularity of football/soccer in my opinion. It's true that cricket crazy people are mostly in south Asia but everywhere in the world you will find people play football.
People play cricket too in most of the countries including Brazil and Argentina. Brazil's first cricket match was against Argentina in 1888. Brazil ICC status is associate member since 2017 and Argentina since 1974. Problem is in those country, football is widely adopted and no to very little chance of being cricket flourished there.
Reference-
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_national_cricket_team
Interesting. Never knew some of this stuff.

It obviously makes sense that soccer is way more popular than cricket in Brazil considering the fact that it is one of the best countries in this regard producing amazing soccer stars over the years.
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