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September 29, 2022, 05:39:55 PM
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On the contrary, I think the Jordan Clarkson will get traded the soonest and I was hoping that he will go the Lakers again and play with Bron. But I do agree that it seems the Lakers are pretty much stack up with Westbrook still at the help.
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I think the Lakers are pretty full at the PG position and seem to be sticking with Westbrook. I was under the impression that Clarkson would have been the piece in any deal to get the Lakers picks and take Russ’ contract.
It seems that way for the Lakers. Clarkson-Westbrook should have happened already if both teams were really interested. I'm thinking the Lakers wanted more than what the Jazz is willing to give up for an older player.

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Russell said today that he wants to go for the MVP this year, so maybe he’s feeling better this year… I’m not so sure MVP is in the cards for him ever again.
WB becoming an MVP means he'll be the floor general. I don't think that's happening while LBJ is there but it's a good that thing he's aiming for it. Downside is that their egos may clash on the court.
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September 29, 2022, 05:32:10 PM

Let's see if this new coach can guide the team more than Ime so that their efforts won't be in vain.


The new coach needs to work more since they are the runner-up and the expectation for this team is high.

He needs to make sure that the team is still intact and the chemistries that they've established while coach Udoka still
around should be remain or better to be enhanced now that it's the assistant coach term to mentor the entire team
they need to work together and continue the chase on the winning the NBA crown.

Boston Celtics has a new coach? I read it on the news that the assistant coach would be the temporary head coach? Is there a change of heart in Boston's management now? If the assistant coach becomes the temporary head coach and he remains a very good friend of Ime, things aren't as hard as we think it is. Ime and him can talk all the time on the things to do, the players to focus and so on. But maybe all of Boston from the owners to the staff, janitors and the fans hated Ime already.

He will be the interim coach maybe because it's too late to hire a new one since the upcoming season is almost here. Regardless if they are friend or not, he had to do a better job as their new coach. He also had some bad reputation himself but I guess the Celtics have given him the benefit so they get him as a assistant and now the interim and probably a permanent one if he do a great job this year. And I doubt that Ime can go back to his previous job with the Celtics or if any NBA team will get hire him.

This is the time where the new head coach will be tested, I'm pretty sure that if he will not do the job well, the management will find a coach to replace him. Celtics have a great roster, they will not waste the opportunity to be a championship contender again, so I'm sure this team is still a team to beat.

Imagine the expectation and burden that has been passed to your shoulder, Mazzulla will be tested and might get criticized if he can't do his job properly. The teams an experienced coach like Ime Udoka but their situation now can't be helped because they need to use what they have and only Mazzulla fits the job for now. But I believe that they can find a way, the current roster is clever enough to do things on their own because of the experienced they acquired but they still need a coach's mind to guide them when it comes to critical situations.
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September 29, 2022, 05:25:36 PM
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Any news on Jordan Clarkson though? I thought he is on the trading block after the Jazzz let go of Mitchell and they are rebuilding from ground up.
I only read about the interest from the Bucks and the potential return to the Lakers but I really have no idea to be honest. Maybe the Jazz will just offer him an extension so they could still have someone that will help them to compete and not plunge to the bottom of the table.

On the contrary, I think the Jordan Clarkson will get traded the soonest and I was hoping that he will go the Lakers again and play with Bron. But I do agree that it seems the Lakers are pretty much stack up with Westbrook still at the help.

Haven't heard any news about the contract extension as well so we will see how the Jazz is going rebuilding with him or is just waiting for a perfect opportunity before Clarkson gets traded.

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September 29, 2022, 05:17:09 PM
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Any news on Jordan Clarkson though? I thought he is on the trading block after the Jazzz let go of Mitchell and they are rebuilding from ground up.
I only read about the interest from the Bucks and the potential return to the Lakers but I really have no idea to be honest. Maybe the Jazz will just offer him an extension so they could still have someone that will help them to compete and not plunge to the bottom of the table.

I think the Lakers are pretty full at the PG position and seem to be sticking with Westbrook. I was under the impression that Clarkson would have been the piece in any deal to get the Lakers picks and take Russ’ contract. Russell said today that he wants to go for the MVP this year, so maybe he’s feeling better this year… I’m not so sure MVP is in the cards for him ever again.
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September 29, 2022, 05:11:23 PM
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Any news on Jordan Clarkson though? I thought he is on the trading block after the Jazzz let go of Mitchell and they are rebuilding from ground up.
I only read about the interest from the Bucks and the potential return to the Lakers but I really have no idea to be honest. Maybe the Jazz will just offer him an extension so they could still have someone that will help them to compete and not plunge to the bottom of the table.
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September 29, 2022, 04:45:34 PM
I have read news that the Celtics players were caught off guard about Ime Udoka's case. Majority of them found the news in twitter like Jayson Tatum and so they are confused.

And then they are talking about how excited they are to come back this new season to do it all over again and duplicate what they have accomplished - go to the finals. But it seems that the players are affected by it and they are taking about the 'process', as they will be coach by Joe Mazzulla.

Well, they have no choice but to accept the reality, no more Udoka this season and probably the succeeding seasons as well, but they have a job to do, it's an unfinish job, they reach the NBA finals, it's time for them to win this time.

There's plenty of time to make the adjustment, the current coach is the assistant, so I'm pretty sure he is very much aware of the system and he just need to implement it, we were impressed by Udoka's performance last season, but he made a big mistake, so he has to face the consequences.

I also believe that assistant coach can work it out since he was there when they play the entire last season, adjustment wise they
don't have a lot unless the new coach has a new approach.

But to my understanding, Brad Stevens will be there for them. He knows how to deal with this and even the new head coach will
takeover. The final decision will still need to work with him.

Boston almost made it, just a step away to win a title, but GSW is really inspired not willing to give it up yet.

There is a reason why the assistant coach is just an interim head coach, the team and management probably know that it's not Mazzulla's time yet to become a permanent head coach for years. The franchise is still searching for an experienced coach who will fill Udoka's spot and bring the team to the Finals again and much better if win the championship. For now, they don't have a choice but to work things out while the whole team is still on the process of fixing the issues and figuring what's next.

Anyway, as you guys said above, they still have plenty of time to work things out and they can also use the regular season to make some experiment just like what they did last season.
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September 29, 2022, 04:16:17 PM
The management observe that after some season of Zion with the team, now it's really a good challenge to this young star,
if he will be able to maintain that weight, the chance that he will not be prone to major injuries.

I like him pairing with CJ both are offensive stars with good role players around them the chance of moving to the next
round or maybe if chemistries will favor them, maybe they can achieve more.

Wait and see if what adjustments will be there for this team since Zion will play now this upcoming season.

You forgot about Ingram, who is just as good on offense as McCollum and Williamson. In addition, the Pelicans have Valanciunas, who can be very useful in the paint. So if all the key players are healthy, the Pelicans will be a very serious contender for any other team. At least I won't be surprised if the Pelicans reach the playoffs again. As for Zion, he has huge potential, and I hope he understands that he needs to take care of the health of his feet anyway.

They are young but they earned good experience last season, if only Williamson was healthy, they might have upset the Phoenix Suns who still struggle against a Williamson-less Pelicans. I hope next season Williamson will be fully healthy as it's not good for the team if he cannot finish a single season.
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September 29, 2022, 03:37:40 PM
The management observe that after some season of Zion with the team, now it's really a good challenge to this young star,
if he will be able to maintain that weight, the chance that he will not be prone to major injuries.

I like him pairing with CJ both are offensive stars with good role players around them the chance of moving to the next
round or maybe if chemistries will favor them, maybe they can achieve more.

Wait and see if what adjustments will be there for this team since Zion will play now this upcoming season.

You forgot about Ingram, who is just as good on offense as McCollum and Williamson. In addition, the Pelicans have Valanciunas, who can be very useful in the paint. So if all the key players are healthy, the Pelicans will be a very serious contender for any other team. At least I won't be surprised if the Pelicans reach the playoffs again. As for Zion, he has huge potential, and I hope he understands that he needs to take care of the health of his feet anyway.
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September 29, 2022, 03:23:10 PM
Yeah, he has a lot of enthusiasm this coming season and it seems that the Pelicans are really looking to make a good run with him healthy. Only he seems to be in the fighting weight, I mean yes he can jump even with the heavier weight he got but it's better if he will slim down so that he can elevate more. Still, he is a force to reckon even if he decided to play one on one, or playing low post. So it's very exciting to see Zion back once again with latest hype and for sure, new highlights.

It also puts less strain on his legs and feet. That is the main reason his contract has weight limits stated. Pelicans do not want to risk him getting injured again because of his weight issues. That is a good move I guess since many are commenting that Zion is too big for his playstyle. He likes to be athletic but the strain on his legs and feet from those moves causes the injury. If he lessens his weight, he can do his moves without putting his health in danger.

Yes, although in college he can bulk and have the hops, but in NBA its very different league and he really needs to care take of themselves as a player because teams have invested millions on them. And it's good that the Pels have added that to his new contract to incentivized while losing weight, and it did the job for him this season. And again, we hope that he can maintain it so that he can stay in the NBA for many years and we can see his full potential of being one of the leagues main star.
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September 29, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Yeah, he has a lot of enthusiasm this coming season and it seems that the Pelicans are really looking to make a good run with him healthy. Only he seems to be in the fighting weight, I mean yes he can jump even with the heavier weight he got but it's better if he will slim down so that he can elevate more. Still, he is a force to reckon even if he decided to play one on one, or playing low post. So it's very exciting to see Zion back once again with latest hype and for sure, new highlights.

It also puts less strain on his legs and feet. That is the main reason his contract has weight limits stated. Pelicans do not want to risk him getting injured again because of his weight issues. That is a good move I guess since many are commenting that Zion is too big for his playstyle. He likes to be athletic but the strain on his legs and feet from those moves causes the injury. If he lessens his weight, he can do his moves without putting his health in danger.


The management observe that after some season of Zion with the team, now it's really a good challenge to this young star,
if he will be able to maintain that weight, the chance that he will not be prone to major injuries.

I like him pairing with CJ both are offensive stars with good role players around them the chance of moving to the next
round or maybe if chemistries will favor them, maybe they can achieve more.

Wait and see if what adjustments will be there for this team since Zion will play now this upcoming season.
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September 29, 2022, 11:59:26 AM
Yeah, he has a lot of enthusiasm this coming season and it seems that the Pelicans are really looking to make a good run with him healthy. Only he seems to be in the fighting weight, I mean yes he can jump even with the heavier weight he got but it's better if he will slim down so that he can elevate more. Still, he is a force to reckon even if he decided to play one on one, or playing low post. So it's very exciting to see Zion back once again with latest hype and for sure, new highlights.

It also puts less strain on his legs and feet. That is the main reason his contract has weight limits stated. Pelicans do not want to risk him getting injured again because of his weight issues. That is a good move I guess since many are commenting that Zion is too big for his playstyle. He likes to be athletic but the strain on his legs and feet from those moves causes the injury. If he lessens his weight, he can do his moves without putting his health in danger.

Rumors says that the Celtics are now finding a new head coach but I seriously think that it's not true. The franchise will just sit and wait until the suspension ends because Ime Udoka is already proven.

I have a great feeling that he is not coming back though.

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September 29, 2022, 11:39:22 AM
Dragic might be an additional motivation but in terms of rotation Caruso and Ball are both good facilitating
the ball and create plays for the team.

Not sure if what will be the impact of Dragic, maybe a bit, but with the healthy stars, Bulls already have the chemistries
they just need to limit the injuries so they can push for more wins and advanced to the East finals.

They really need some guy like Dragic to fill some spots because their problem last season was injuries one after another until they cannot hold on anymore and finally lose the first round of the NBA playoffs. That's exactly where their problem is, and if they can rest well their star players with the addition of some free agents, they might have a high chance to get back in the playoffs and pass the first round. With the star players that were injured last season returning this time, they will gonna have a hard time getting back there again.

Their main point guard is still injured so he needs someone to fill some spots. Not saying that Dragic will replace Ball in the Bulls lineup, they still have Coby White and Caruso as some point to distribute the ball. But a presence of a savvy veteran will help their young point guard. Yes, it was difficult for the Bulls to exit in the first round because they have a good season in the beginning until one by one they got injured. But going to the playoff last season was a good experience already, because that's the first time they have been in the playoff since the D'Rose era if I'm not mistaken.
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September 29, 2022, 09:27:34 AM
Dragic might be an additional motivation but in terms of rotation Caruso and Ball are both good facilitating
the ball and create plays for the team.

Not sure if what will be the impact of Dragic, maybe a bit, but with the healthy stars, Bulls already have the chemistries
they just need to limit the injuries so they can push for more wins and advanced to the East finals.

They really need some guy like Dragic to fill some spots because their problem last season was injuries one after another until they cannot hold on anymore and finally lose the first round of the NBA playoffs. That's exactly where their problem is, and if they can rest well their star players with the addition of some free agents, they might have a high chance to get back in the playoffs and pass the first round. With the star players that were injured last season returning this time, they will gonna have a hard time getting back there again.
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September 29, 2022, 06:31:59 AM
Yup exactly why they went out and got him. I remember the first (and last) time I ever played fantasy basketball I drafted Goran Dragic, this was like 2012ish , he was actually pretty solid. But that feels like an eternity ago and I just can’t can’t expect much out of the guy. It’s pretty depressing because the Bulls realistically don’t have a chance without a mega-star , and Ball likely won’t change that but we’ll never know until we get him in the lineup.
But they did well last season until the injuries plagued their roster. The first 20 games was awesome and we saw Bulls' games that's almost like an All-Star game with high flying players.
I think what they need is to keep themselves healthy. Just like now, they are missing another important piece to becoming an effective team.
Goran's veteran perspective might also help the young guards, he doesn't need to play much, and guiding them will be a lot of help.

Dragic might be an additional motivation but in terms of rotation Caruso and Ball are both good facilitating
the ball and create plays for the team.

Not sure if what will be the impact of Dragic, maybe a bit, but with the healthy stars, Bulls already have the chemistries
they just need to limit the injuries so they can push for more wins and advanced to the East finals.
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September 29, 2022, 06:27:05 AM
Yup exactly why they went out and got him. I remember the first (and last) time I ever played fantasy basketball I drafted Goran Dragic, this was like 2012ish , he was actually pretty solid. But that feels like an eternity ago and I just can’t can’t expect much out of the guy. It’s pretty depressing because the Bulls realistically don’t have a chance without a mega-star , and Ball likely won’t change that but we’ll never know until we get him in the lineup.
But they did well last season until the injuries plagued their roster. The first 20 games was awesome and we saw Bulls' games that's almost like an All-Star game with high flying players.

True, they have like build a winning streak prior to DeRozan getting injured. And then they still make it before Lavine turn to be sideline. So it was really a combination of injuries and bad luck that really relegated their standings to the bottom half of the Eastern Conference.

I think what they need is to keep themselves healthy. Just like now, they are missing another important piece to becoming an effective team.
Goran's veteran perspective might also help the young guards, he doesn't need to play much, and guiding them will be a lot of help.

That is the bottom line for most teams, they really need to get healthy or at least adjust when their superstars can't play. Lakers for one is a good example, Davis and James went down with injuries. So let's hope that there will be no major injuries for both the Bulls and the Lakers.
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September 29, 2022, 03:34:46 AM
Yup exactly why they went out and got him. I remember the first (and last) time I ever played fantasy basketball I drafted Goran Dragic, this was like 2012ish , he was actually pretty solid. But that feels like an eternity ago and I just can’t can’t expect much out of the guy. It’s pretty depressing because the Bulls realistically don’t have a chance without a mega-star , and Ball likely won’t change that but we’ll never know until we get him in the lineup.
But they did well last season until the injuries plagued their roster. The first 20 games was awesome and we saw Bulls' games that's almost like an All-Star game with high flying players.
I think what they need is to keep themselves healthy. Just like now, they are missing another important piece to becoming an effective team.
Goran's veteran perspective might also help the young guards, he doesn't need to play much, and guiding them will be a lot of help.
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September 29, 2022, 03:16:57 AM
Was listening to local sports radio today and just heard about how Alonzo Ball , for the Chicago Bulls, is getting ready to have surgery soon, and while he expressed a certain level of optimism they did ask him if he thought there would be any change he didn’t come back in 2023 and he simply said that’s the “worst case scenario”. Local sports anchors were saying they wouldn’t count on him coming back at all. Pretty depressing for Chicago Bulls fans.
I think that's the reason why they signed Goran Dragic. The Bulls' management knew that the procedure taken by Ball was not enough so surgery is the only best solution to take that pain away.
A bit sad for Lonzo, this is the prime of his career where he could lead the NBA in assists and be on top of the point guard discussions.
Dragic will definitely be their main ball handler but I doubt he could play at full time so Dosunmu and Coby White should always be ready for a sudden substitution.

Yup exactly why they went out and got him. I remember the first (and last) time I ever played fantasy basketball I drafted Goran Dragic, this was like 2012ish , he was actually pretty solid. But that feels like an eternity ago and I just can’t can’t expect much out of the guy. It’s pretty depressing because the Bulls realistically don’t have a chance without a mega-star , and Ball likely won’t change that but we’ll never know until we get him in the lineup.

Well they have Zach Lavine before and then they added DeRozan, so they are still a pretty solid in my opinion and we can say that Lavine is their mega-star for now, so I wouldn't say it's depressing.

It's the chemistry that they need to build and they have it last season, They were almost on top of the East in the beginning and DeRozan had stretch wherein he had game winning shots.

But since Ball is not going to play, why not get a experience player in Goran Dragic.
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September 28, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
Was listening to local sports radio today and just heard about how Alonzo Ball , for the Chicago Bulls, is getting ready to have surgery soon, and while he expressed a certain level of optimism they did ask him if he thought there would be any change he didn’t come back in 2023 and he simply said that’s the “worst case scenario”. Local sports anchors were saying they wouldn’t count on him coming back at all. Pretty depressing for Chicago Bulls fans.
I think that's the reason why they signed Goran Dragic. The Bulls' management knew that the procedure taken by Ball was not enough so surgery is the only best solution to take that pain away.
A bit sad for Lonzo, this is the prime of his career where he could lead the NBA in assists and be on top of the point guard discussions.
Dragic will definitely be their main ball handler but I doubt he could play at full time so Dosunmu and Coby White should always be ready for a sudden substitution.

Yup exactly why they went out and got him. I remember the first (and last) time I ever played fantasy basketball I drafted Goran Dragic, this was like 2012ish , he was actually pretty solid. But that feels like an eternity ago and I just can’t can’t expect much out of the guy. It’s pretty depressing because the Bulls realistically don’t have a chance without a mega-star , and Ball likely won’t change that but we’ll never know until we get him in the lineup.
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September 28, 2022, 09:28:57 PM

Here's a statement of Joe Mazzulla.
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"It's not about carrying on from one person," Mazzulla said during the team's media day here in the Boston suburbs. "It's about carrying on the identity of our players. We had our struggles early last season, but at our best, we knew what our identity was. It was our defense, it was our buy-in from a defensive standpoint, and then it was sharing the ball and moving quickly on the offensive end.
"So as much as we can stick to the things we were great at last year, and then find areas to improve along the way, I think is the right way to go."
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34671406/jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-set-put-our-best-foot-forward-interim-coach-joe-mazzulla
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"Joe has been here. He knows the scheme, he knows the players, so it makes it a little bit more easier to adjust to a guy that's been here and knows you."
I doubt they will have a problem with Joe. 3 years being an assistant coach from Brad Stevens to Udoka.
Most players of the Celtics know him as they didn't change their roster that much. This could be Joe's time to shine if ever he manages to put the Celtics in a good position this season.
This is what I've been thinking as well.
Coach Udoka has been pretty impressive in his first year as a head coach of the Celtics, but Coach Mazzulla has been there for 3 years, and he already saw how Coach Udoka and even Coach Brad Stevens coached the team so I'm sure that he will do what's best for the team and what the team is excelling with and that is their defense.

Coach Mazzulla might not copy how Coach Udoka is handling the team but let's see how he will handle it. I'm pretty sure that he knows what he's doing. Celtics is one of the top defensive team last season, so we might see them focusing on it again but this time, with a different coach.

Rumors says that the Celtics are now finding a new head coach but I seriously think that it's not true. The franchise will just sit and wait until the suspension ends because Ime Udoka is already proven.
I also thought about that one, but I read an article just after releasing the suspension and it says that there is a chance that the suspension will not only for one year meaning the suspension might be either one year only or worse even longer. That's how bad what Coach Udoka did. Well, I will just hope for the best for him but if Coach Mazzulla will coach the team well this season, then I guess there is no reason for him to be replaced right?
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September 28, 2022, 08:58:57 PM
Although he is no longer in his prime, I think he can still distribute and score. We have seen some glimpse of his old self with the Nets last season.
And the recent was at Euroleague. Slovenia may have not won the championship this time but he did great there when Luka Doncic needs some time to rest. Yeah, 20+ minutes should suffice since they have lots of guards.

Oh thanks to that, I haven't followed the Euroleague and I was not aware that he did play and contribute to this native country Slovenia with Luka.

And with that experience, I think he is still ready and prime for another great season in the NBA with that kind of performance. He could really be a good help to the Bulls when it boils down that they needed a experience point guard down the stretch.
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