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Quote from: OgNasty on September 30, 2022, 07:18:55 PM

First preseason game is in the books. The warriors beat the wizards in spite of the warriors starting 5 shooting 7 for 34. The bright spot was Wiseman who got 20 points on 8 for 11 shooting. Kerr keeps saying Wiseman isn’t ready and won’t get a lot of minutes this year but I’m hoping that isn’t the case. If the Warriors can get him minutes they’ll be pretty hard to stop with a legit center. He looks ready to me.

Kerr is a wise coach, he might be bluffing coz he looks more than ready to me as well.
That pre season performance he showed might be a sneak peak of what the GSW have discovered made another superstar on their own. With Iggy's last season this year, they'll better have someone who's as reliable as him on both ends of the floor.
I guess the GSW executed very well on who's to dispose of and who's to be retained.
This might gonna be another back 2 back for the warriors this season.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 30, 2022, 07:18:55 PM

First preseason game is in the books. The warriors beat the wizards in spite of the warriors starting 5 shooting 7 for 34. The bright spot was Wiseman who got 20 points on 8 for 11 shooting. Kerr keeps saying Wiseman isn’t ready and won’t get a lot of minutes this year but I’m hoping that isn’t the case. If the Warriors can get him minutes they’ll be pretty hard to stop with a legit center. He looks ready to me.

Just pre-season though, so perhaps everyone was rusty on the side of the Warriors.

I do agree that it's time for us to see how Wiseman is, highly touted prospect but got injured. So if he is 100% already, then Kerr should not put him in restricted minutes and give him like 20 minutes per game. I guess the Warriors are used to have Looney in the middle. But for sure Wiseman could offer more and help them out this season.

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Quote from: jossiel on September 30, 2022, 04:48:55 PM

It's just a rumor so basically that was made up and that's why we don't see any news about it.

Maybe fans or someone who wanted him to leave his former team who created that.

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If you just heard or read a rumor, always don't expect it to be real but I do agree that there should be a change for where Clarkson is. Lakers is out of the option as they have no space for him.

Lakers already signed Dennis for much cheaper contract, enough addition for their offense. Maybe Clarkson is out of any trade talks.

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Bucks would be like one of the best for him but he sure got a lot of contribution to Jazz and will the management willing to let him go?

And who's going to be traded for him that may attract Jazz to let him go, they are in a rebuilding so future draft maybe is what they are aiming.

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First preseason game is in the books. The warriors beat the wizards in spite of the warriors starting 5 shooting 7 for 34. The bright spot was Wiseman who got 20 points on 8 for 11 shooting. Kerr keeps saying Wiseman isn’t ready and won’t get a lot of minutes this year but I’m hoping that isn’t the case. If the Warriors can get him minutes they’ll be pretty hard to stop with a legit center. He looks ready to me.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 30, 2022, 01:01:08 PM

True, Clarkson's talent will be wasted if he will still remain and play for the Utah Jazz or to guide the younger ones, He's just not suitable for it. There's a rumor that Bucks and Grizzlies are interested to get him but up until now there's no news on the nearest possibility, he will be so useful if he can play for Bucks or Grizzlies. But for Lakers? They are already stacked especially in point guards and I don't see that the Lakers has something to give for the Jazz in-exchange for Clarkson. I'm sure that the Lakers aren't ready to give up their future picks for the time being.

It's just a rumor so basically that was made up and that's why we don't see any news about it.

If you just heard or read a rumor, always don't expect it to be real but I do agree that there should be a change for where Clarkson is. Lakers is out of the option as they have no space for him.

Bucks would be like one of the best for him but he sure got a lot of contribution to Jazz and will the management willing to let him go?

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Quote from: sana54210 on September 30, 2022, 03:05:12 PM

I still think NBA needs to reconsider this cap space thing, we are at a level where almost every team is above the allowed cap space with just 3 players, and if not, at maximum 5-6 people passes it easily, meaning you cannot build a decent "team", you build a great core and terrible helpers around them which makes no sense to me. We need to raise the cap space a bit, just a bit, but also drop what the biggest names could make, 50+ million levels is not acceptable, doesn't leave enough for anyone else.

Or they should stop overpaying some athletes so they can make space for other good athletes to join their club. Also, they can always pay the luxury tax if they really want to pay big and get more athletes.

And, if you have maxed your salary cap with just 5-6 players, you are already a superteam. If you raise the cap, then some teams will just hoard all the stars and there will be no more competitiveness in the league.

Quote from: sana54210 on September 30, 2022, 03:05:12 PM

Clarkson cannot technically go to Lakers because Lakers do not have a cap space available and Clarkson is not a minimum contract guy. He would probably either stay, or leave to a team that could pay him a good amount, otherwise it doesn't make sense for him to take a cut.

If they trade westbrook, it will create a LOT of space. WB is eating a chunk of LA Lakers cap.

I agree, that's what separates the good teams from the best. Cost allocation and identifying steals that are undervalued. In baseball it tends to be the team that spends the most has a good shot to be there in the end. With caps it helps level the aging field. If they raise the cap and lower the amount someone can make it only means they will give lower level players more money. The talent is what it is, that won't change with caps or maxes

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 30, 2022, 11:40:14 AM

Blake Griffin just signed a one year deal with the Celtics. Seems like the Celtics are the team for veterans to try and win a chip with now. I’m not so sure they’re the team to beat in the east. I think the 76ers, Bucks, & Nets all have better teams, but with Nash being strict on the old guys maybe the Celtics are the only place willing to take the old ring chasers. Hope Blake has a good season. Last year was a bit embarrassing.

At least we will see another season for Blake, but I'm not expecting him to play many minutes with the C's. Probably just like the veteran that he is, Blake could be a good mentor for the young team.

Well they have proven themselves last year, beating all the those teams in the East. It's that they will have a interim coach so that could be a factor, also the noise about their former coach might have an impact to some of the players. But we will see, maybe from time to time Griffin could have some games that he will excel, not seeing the former high flying and poster dunks from him, but at least solid contribution and his shooting from 3's have improved when he lost his athleticism. It might come in handy in close games.

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Quote from: sana54210 on September 30, 2022, 03:05:12 PM

I still think NBA needs to reconsider this cap space thing, we are at a level where almost every team is above the allowed cap space with just 3 players, and if not, at maximum 5-6 people passes it easily, meaning you cannot build a decent "team", you build a great core and terrible helpers around them which makes no sense to me. We need to raise the cap space a bit, just a bit, but also drop what the biggest names could make, 50+ million levels is not acceptable, doesn't leave enough for anyone else.

Or they should stop overpaying some athletes so they can make space for other good athletes to join their club. Also, they can always pay the luxury tax if they really want to pay big and get more athletes.

And, if you have maxed your salary cap with just 5-6 players, you are already a superteam. If you raise the cap, then some teams will just hoard all the stars and there will be no more competitiveness in the league.

Quote from: sana54210 on September 30, 2022, 03:05:12 PM

Clarkson cannot technically go to Lakers because Lakers do not have a cap space available and Clarkson is not a minimum contract guy. He would probably either stay, or leave to a team that could pay him a good amount, otherwise it doesn't make sense for him to take a cut.

If they trade westbrook, it will create a LOT of space. WB is eating a chunk of LA Lakers cap.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 30, 2022, 11:40:14 AM

Blake Griffin just signed a one year deal with the Celtics. Seems like the Celtics are the team for veterans to try and win a chip with now. I’m not so sure they’re the team to beat in the east. I think the 76ers, Bucks, & Nets all have better teams, but with Nash being strict on the old guys maybe the Celtics are the only place willing to take the old ring chasers. Hope Blake has a good season. Last year was a bit embarrassing.

It looks like this is a minimal veteran deal, and it's not surprising since Griffin's performance last season was probably one of the worst of his career. Honestly, I don't think Griffin had many offers from other teams this off-season, and the Celtics probably decided to sign him only because of Gallinari's injury.

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On the contrary, I think the Jordan Clarkson will get traded the soonest and I was hoping that he will go the Lakers again and play with Bron.

I don't care which team but I would love to see Jordan Clarkson traded to any teams that are capable of reaching the playoffs. I don't want him to stay in a rebuilding team and waste his prime years.

Clarkson with the Lakers will be good for the team and his career too. He can be a perfect alternative when Bron and AD take their rest. He can even play in the first five to confuse the opposing team's defense. Schroder, Clarkson, Bron, and AD together in the court would be offensively deadly.

Clarkson cannot technically go to Lakers because Lakers do not have a cap space available and Clarkson is not a minimum contract guy. He would probably either stay, or leave to a team that could pay him a good amount, otherwise it doesn't make sense for him to take a cut.

I still think NBA needs to reconsider this cap space thing, we are at a level where almost every team is above the allowed cap space with just 3 players, and if not, at maximum 5-6 people passes it easily, meaning you cannot build a decent "team", you build a great core and terrible helpers around them which makes no sense to me. We need to raise the cap space a bit, just a bit, but also drop what the biggest names could make, 50+ million levels is not acceptable, doesn't leave enough for anyone else.

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On the contrary, I think the Jordan Clarkson will get traded the soonest and I was hoping that he will go the Lakers again and play with Bron.

I don't care which team but I would love to see Jordan Clarkson traded to any teams that are capable of reaching the playoffs. I don't want him to stay in a rebuilding team and waste his prime years.

Clarkson with the Lakers will be good for the team and his career too. He can be a perfect alternative when Bron and AD take their rest. He can even play in the first five to confuse the opposing team's defense. Schroder, Clarkson, Bron, and AD together in the court would be offensively deadly.

True, Clarkson's talent will be wasted if he will still remain and play for the Utah Jazz or to guide the younger ones, He's just not suitable for it. There's a rumor that Bucks and Grizzlies are interested to get him but up until now there's no news on the nearest possibility, he will be so useful if he can play for Bucks or Grizzlies. But for Lakers? They are already stacked especially in point guards and I don't see that the Lakers has something to give for the Jazz in-exchange for Clarkson. I'm sure that the Lakers aren't ready to give up their future picks for the time being.

I think he'd be wasted on Memphis, they are loaded right now. He would absolutely be perfect out on the Bucks. He can play his 6th man role and would be complimentary to what they are doing out there. The issue would be what the Bucks would have to give up for Clarkson.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 30, 2022, 07:33:53 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 29, 2022, 05:25:36 PM

On the contrary, I think the Jordan Clarkson will get traded the soonest and I was hoping that he will go the Lakers again and play with Bron.

I don't care which team but I would love to see Jordan Clarkson traded to any teams that are capable of reaching the playoffs. I don't want him to stay in a rebuilding team and waste his prime years.

Clarkson with the Lakers will be good for the team and his career too. He can be a perfect alternative when Bron and AD take their rest. He can even play in the first five to confuse the opposing team's defense. Schroder, Clarkson, Bron, and AD together in the court would be offensively deadly.

True, Clarkson's talent will be wasted if he will still remain and play for the Utah Jazz or to guide the younger ones, He's just not suitable for it. There's a rumor that Bucks and Grizzlies are interested to get him but up until now there's no news on the nearest possibility, he will be so useful if he can play for Bucks or Grizzlies. But for Lakers? They are already stacked especially in point guards and I don't see that the Lakers has something to give for the Jazz in-exchange for Clarkson. I'm sure that the Lakers aren't ready to give up their future picks for the time being.

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Quote from: jakelyson on September 30, 2022, 02:20:46 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 29, 2022, 05:25:36 PM

On the contrary, I think the Jordan Clarkson will get traded the soonest and I was hoping that he will go the Lakers again and play with Bron.

Quote from: Yogee on September 29, 2022, 05:39:55 PM

I think the Lakers are pretty full at the PG position and seem to be sticking with Westbrook. I was under the impression that Clarkson would have been the piece in any deal to get the Lakers picks and take Russ’ contract.

I see rumors that he will be traded to the Bulls. It does not make sense if the Jazz will make a move to trade Clarkson for Westbrook since they are rebuilding. He will be a good help to the Bulls though coming from the bench. He was stellar last year in Jazz, and I think he is a good fit for the Bulls as well.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 29, 2022, 05:44:58 PM

Mvp is crazy talk for Westbrook, with Luka, giannis, taytum, ja, jokic, etc etc but I do think he will have a bounce back year. He is crafty he will figure it out. Last year was pretty much the worst of it. He is ultra competitive let's see what kind of summer he had training. I'd like to see him bounce back. NBA is always better when teams like the Lakers are competitive.

Aside from the competition, he is not the first option on his team as well. It is hard to stack stats if you are not the first option. He is the third option at best. He can have a bounce-back year but aiming for an MVP is just too much for him to achieve. He is not the prime Westbrook that we used to know.

Chicago Bulls is indeed a good landing spot for Clarkson but I'm curious on who will be the exchange for him that will get the Jazz interested, since as you said that the Jazz is currently on rebuilding process. If the Chicago Bulls can match the Jazz's needs then the deal might be done before the season starts. Although, I'm starting to think that Clarkson will still wear the same jersey this coming season.

And regarding Westbrook, that statement he made that he's aiming for the MVP made me laugh. I mean, I'm not underestimating him, but he should bounce back first and fulfill his role and I agree that MVP might too much for him to expect.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 30, 2022, 12:18:35 PM

He created the noise, and he should work on it. We never know why he makes such a statement,, but it's a good motivation to find
his old self, don't quote me on this, but all players need motivation to start firing up.

With a kind of challenges and criticism, he might find a way to improve his performance and shut up the bad publicities against him,
it's a top challenge but still doable if he will play smart.

Or, it's just simply saying that he wanted to be the main guy again, and it's a sign of moving out from the lakers organization.

Setting up a challenge is good. But if the challenge is too high, you are just setting it up to fail. We do not even know if he is a starter in the Lakers.

Though an MVP aspiration is good, it might backfire on him if he does not perform well. Social media will toast him for that. He should have aimed for SMOTY rather than MVP instead. Cheesy

Quote from: OgNasty on September 30, 2022, 11:40:14 AM

Blake Griffin just signed a one year deal with the Celtics. Seems like the Celtics are the team for veterans to try and win a chip with now. I’m not so sure they’re the team to beat in the east. I think the 76ers, Bucks, & Nets all have better teams, but with Nash being strict on the old guys maybe the Celtics are the only place willing to take the old ring chasers. Hope Blake has a good season. Last year was a bit embarrassing.

It is a good team, winning the Conference championship and showing good performance against a stacked GSW last season. I think Griffin chose a good team to chase the ring. If Udoka was not suspended, I can even say that they are still the team to beat in the east. But since their coach is out for the season, we still need to see how the team will response with their new coach.

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Quote from: jakelyson on September 30, 2022, 02:20:46 AM

I see rumors that he will be traded to the Bulls. It does not make sense if the Jazz will make a move to trade Clarkson for Westbrook since they are rebuilding. He will be a good help to the Bulls though coming from the bench. He was stellar last year in Jazz, and I think he is a good fit for the Bulls as well.

Jazz might be insane in thinking of trading Jordan Clarkson for Rusell Westbrook they could be out of their mind in thinking such risky trade, and yeah it doesn't make sense, they are building their old players, and getting Russell Westbrook now is a liability for their team, for me,, they will not trade Russell Westbrook to the young Jordan Clarkson that are still young and still have a ceiling for improvements,

Quote from: ultrloa on September 30, 2022, 02:53:05 AM

Lebron still be their number one option and second is Davis so its hard for him to snatch the MVP this season since the ball rotation of lakers is not focus on him. Maybe if he can provide solid numbers to purple and gold plus he will be consistent on number of games played the phase will change then their management will decide to make him a number two option for them. So Westbrook really need to work hard this upcoming season since he have need to prove his worth for second time.

If he was aiming for that then he would likely have a problem with it, he is not in his prime anymore, so likely to say he can not produce a number like in his prime, if this is real that he still wants a shot for it, then say goodbye to his career in the NBA no team will surely want him anymore, because he likely not producing any consistent gameplay, points I sure am no fan of Russell Westbrook, but all I want for him is to play it easy and become a matching strength with his team and not a fool who's still aiming for the impossible,

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Any news on Jordan Clarkson though? I thought he is on the trading block after the Jazzz let go of Mitchell and they are rebuilding from ground up.

I only read about the interest from the Bucks and the potential return to the Lakers but I really have no idea to be honest. Maybe the Jazz will just offer him an extension so they could still have someone that will help them to compete and not plunge to the bottom of the table.

I think the Lakers are pretty full at the PG position and seem to be sticking with Westbrook. I was under the impression that Clarkson would have been the piece in any deal to get the Lakers picks and take Russ’ contract. Russell said today that he wants to go for the MVP this year, so maybe he’s feeling better this year… I’m not so sure MVP is in the cards for him ever again.

Yes, Lakers are quite packed already and it's safe to say that they are now on the table drawing some plans for the coming season and thinking what to do to their roster that is full of PG. At first I know they considering to get Clarkson but the Jazz is taking their time to choose the right package because the future of the franchise depends on it. Also, it seems that Clarkson trade have cooled down recently, maybe there's a sudden change of heart.

For Westbrook, he need to do the talk instead of making some statements that will put him in the spotlight if in case he'll mess up again. He needed to forget first that he's not the main alpha because his main role is to support the duo and make an opening for them.

He created the noise, and he should work on it. We never know why he makes such a statement,, but it's a good motivation to find
his old self, don't quote me on this, but all players need motivation to start firing up.

With a kind of challenges and criticism, he might find a way to improve his performance and shut up the bad publicities against him,
it's a top challenge but still doable if he will play smart.

Or, it's just simply saying that he wanted to be the main guy again, and it's a sign of moving out from the lakers organization.

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Blake Griffin just signed a one year deal with the Celtics. Seems like the Celtics are the team for veterans to try and win a chip with now. I’m not so sure they’re the team to beat in the east. I think the 76ers, Bucks, & Nets all have better teams, but with Nash being strict on the old guys maybe the Celtics are the only place willing to take the old ring chasers. Hope Blake has a good season. Last year was a bit embarrassing.

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Any news on Jordan Clarkson though? I thought he is on the trading block after the Jazzz let go of Mitchell and they are rebuilding from ground up.

I only read about the interest from the Bucks and the potential return to the Lakers but I really have no idea to be honest. Maybe the Jazz will just offer him an extension so they could still have someone that will help them to compete and not plunge to the bottom of the table.

I think the Lakers are pretty full at the PG position and seem to be sticking with Westbrook. I was under the impression that Clarkson would have been the piece in any deal to get the Lakers picks and take Russ’ contract. Russell said today that he wants to go for the MVP this year, so maybe he’s feeling better this year… I’m not so sure MVP is in the cards for him ever again.

Yes, Lakers are quite packed already and it's safe to say that they are now on the table drawing some plans for the coming season and thinking what to do to their roster that is full of PG. At first I know they considering to get Clarkson but the Jazz is taking their time to choose the right package because the future of the franchise depends on it. Also, it seems that Clarkson trade have cooled down recently, maybe there's a sudden change of heart.

For Westbrook, he need to do the talk instead of making some statements that will put him in the spotlight if in case he'll mess up again. He needed to forget first that he's not the main alpha because his main role is to support the duo and make an opening for them.

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Yes, Joe Mazzulla was there but Udoka was the mastermind and the one who is calling the shots why the Celtics reached that far, they almost got a chance but it's just that the Warriors are more capable and much more experienced. I'm thinking that Mazzulla and the management will always keep in touch with Udoka so that he can still call the shots behind the scenes because they cannot deny that they still need him.

Rumors says that the Celtics are now finding a new head coach but I seriously think that it's not true. The franchise will just sit and wait until the suspension ends because Ime Udoka is already proven.

I agree with you. Udoka showed that his coaching skills were enough to bring the team to the final series. So the Celtics don't need a new head coach, and I hope these rumors aren't true. Honestly, I don’t even know how Udoka's suspension will affect the mental state of the Celtics players, but it's clear that the chances of the Celtics reaching the final series in the upcoming season will be much less than previously expected, at least I have some doubts that Mazzulla will be able to fully replace Udoka.

That said, I believe that the franchise will just let Udoka finish his suspension because their chances will get pretty low if they will find another head coach that will replace Udoka indefinitely, they cannot afford to have that much error especially now that they already got a strong roster that is already proven to work-out. I know the franchise doesn't want to give Udoka a whole season suspension but they don't have much choice because they have to set an example for the rest of the staff, including the players.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 29, 2022, 05:44:58 PM

Mvp is crazy talk for Westbrook, with Luka, giannis, taytum, ja, jokic, etc etc but I do think he will have a bounce back year. He is crafty he will figure it out. Last year was pretty much the worst of it. He is ultra competitive let's see what kind of summer he had training. I'd like to see him bounce back. NBA is always better when teams like the Lakers are competitive.

Not just with his competitors in the league but on the team itself, there are a lot of main gunners there that he might even become a competitor on the award. And to become an MVP, he should be the main guy on the team doing plays and whatever.

Aside from that and the most important thing to become an MVP frontrunner of the season, "consistency" in every game on which Russ is having a hard time last season. Once you fell short on stats in just one game, that can bring down the average already as every game stats counts.

But in fairness, I like him being that optimistic after that failed run last season. I hope his plan of targeting the MVP next season will bring a boost to the Lakers.

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