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During a trade a player has no choice. If the Suns have CP under contract and trade him to the Lakers there is nothing chris Paul can say unless he has a no trade clause in his contract which I don't think he does. Players only have a choice when they are glfree agents and looking for a team to sign them.

That is true. But Chris Paul is an influencial player. If he and lebron wanted to play together, they can make it happen. They can force a trade to make it happen. But like I said, it is not beneficial for Cp3 to play in the lakers because of how it is set up right now and that cp3 has better chance of getting a championship in phoenix than in Lakers. That trade rumor is likely not to happen but we will see. There are still ample of time to make it a reality if it is true.

They can force a trade if they wanted to? In what world does the Suns let go of chris Paul to the Lakers (a rival) because that's what lebron wanted lol. That only happens with free agemcy...not trades. You think Donovan Mitchell wanted to end up on the Cavaliers? Or Rudy wanted to land in Minnesota. Trust me no one is going to do the Lakers a favor by handing them exactly what they need (a point guard) so that they can compete again.

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Signing Schroeder at that price is a lucky break fpr the Lakers. One that they badly needed too I must say. At least now they don't have to worry too much about an underperforming WB since they have someone willing to prove himself again.

Don't get hyped at Dennis Schroder. Did you see him making big news about winning and carrying a team after he left the Lakers? He was transferred to a team with not many superstars and yet you can't see him in big news carrying a team.

It's not about getting hyped or having huge expectations. His signing is one of the best deals the Lakers got given the situation they are in.

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Dennis Schroder is overrated. I will still pick Westbrook over him. Westbrook already proves that even if he does stat padding, he can carry a team. Dennis Schroder still needs to eat lots of grain of rice before becoming better over Westbrook.

Pick whoever you want and praise WB to high heavens. It doesn't really matter to the Laker's organization.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 19, 2022, 04:21:01 PM

During a trade a player has no choice. If the Suns have CP under contract and trade him to the Lakers there is nothing chris Paul can say unless he has a no trade clause in his contract which I don't think he does. Players only have a choice when they are glfree agents and looking for a team to sign them.

That is true. But Chris Paul is an influencial player. If he and lebron wanted to play together, they can make it happen. They can force a trade to make it happen. But like I said, it is not beneficial for Cp3 to play in the lakers because of how it is set up right now and that cp3 has better chance of getting a championship in phoenix than in Lakers. That trade rumor is likely not to happen but we will see. There are still ample of time to make it a reality if it is true.

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Quote from: jossiel on September 19, 2022, 04:44:49 PM

I also think that's a good choice and having him sign for a 1-year contract seems to be a good option for both of them. But most likely, it's Lakers that would want to test him if he's going to suit with the other key players.

But if he's able to play with the other superstars on the team before, then that's an ease to him and there won't be a long adjustment that he needs to be done.

Well, exciting things are happening now to the Lakers. What are some other good deals and contract signings that has happened to other teams?

Hmm... I'll be honest, I confess that right now I don't know in my mind.
But I see that most teams are doing everything to adapt and improve the team for the next season!

Dennis is a good PG, and if he gets the chemistry to play along with AD and LeBron, I have no doubt that the Lakers will be a strong team this NBA season!
Of course, for that to happen, I expect no Lakers player to have any kind of injury over the course of the regular season or playoffs.

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 19, 2022, 02:45:53 PM

Looking at it that way, I also believe Dennis Schröder was a good choice for the Lakers.

I confess that he could be a "key player" for the Lakers in this season, by the way, he's fast and agile, an another important factor (already mentioned by other users in this topic), Dennis has played together with LeBron and AD a few seasons ago.

I look forward to seeing how Dennis performs for the Lakers this NBA season.

I also think that's a good choice and having him sign for a 1-year contract seems to be a good option for both of them. But most likely, it's Lakers that would want to test him if he's going to suit with the other key players.

But if he's able to play with the other superstars on the team before, then that's an ease to him and there won't be a long adjustment that he needs to be done.

Well, exciting things are happening now to the Lakers. What are some other good deals and contract signings that has happened to other teams?

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This is the first I've heard of this potential trade and I'm sure it's just clickbait, but 'The Sportest' published an article this morning titled, Chris Paul With The Lakers Is ALMOST Set And Done:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/chris-paul-with-the-lakers-is-almost-set-and-done-nba-trade-rumors/vi-AA11Zi9n

I'm sure this is nonsense, but would be cool. I don't think the Lakers have any pieces the Suns want, so I'm not holding my breath.

In other news, it looks like Kevin Love is finally going to take a buyout and move on from the Cavs. They're saying Golden State or New Jersey are potential landing spots. I think him joining the Warriors would really help fill the hole left in Draymond's 3 point shooting troubles.

Tried to look this up but cannot find any article that will support it. It is probably just nonsense. The Lakers right now have quite a number of point guards already. I do not think they will sign Schroder if they are in the move to get Chris Paul.

Also, Chris Paul is chasing an NBA Championship. I do not think moving to the Lakers will be the best move for him, He has a better chance to get a ring in Phoenix than in the Lakers. Lebron and AD are great and they could benefit from having a point god in their team but they have health issues. And if you add Chris Paul, they will be another old team that cannot keep up with young teams.

During a trade a player has no choice. If the Suns have CP under contract and trade him to the Lakers there is nothing chris Paul can say unless he has a no trade clause in his contract which I don't think he does. Players only have a choice when they are glfree agents and looking for a team to sign them.

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Yes, it's arguable that Russ could come back and show revenge to everyone that hasn't shown some love for him. But can't blame those doubters of him.
So, if he stays with the Lakers and there will be a new coach for them, I guess that's where he should bounce back and prove everyone wrong. It shouldn't be a blame game though as it's always a team play for this sport. But when there's a hole on the team, whether it's from the player, from the coaching staff, there should be ways of fixing it.

It's not good for the team if Westbrook is only thinking about that, what he should do is to make sure that this time he will be effective for the role that was given to him, and bouncing back while proving something is not a bad choice either but he should know that there's right timing for that because if he will rush it then the team will probably suffer and he will be blamed again for his actions. They should start working together as a team and leave no one behind when there are some problems.

I guess it's already attached to his main role for the team and at the same time, he's got to prove himself. So, it seems that he's going to stay with Lakers as the management doesn't want to trade him for max cap space.
I am sure that there are good trades that awaits for him but if it's the management has decided then he'll surely going to show everyone that he's going to play with the team better this time.

Something that he really needs to do while staying under Lakers' uniform,

He needs to show a lot of adjustment accepting his role and play with the system, with him playing the same old Russ
offensive threat wise he still has an upper edge compared to other stars. If he's on a mission to prove something, this
upcoming season is his best chance to impress the lakers fans.

It's always the better choice to show up and impress everyone whenever you get the chance to. He fail the first attempt, now he should never mess up again and it's a must. The Lakers were actually stacked in papers, but they're not playing like they used to individually as a team.
Next season is not only for Westbrook, but for the whole Lakers squad. They disbanded the championship Laker team and now they disbanded a loser Laker team. Let's see what they got with a completely new roster next season.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 19, 2022, 01:05:42 PM

This is the first I've heard of this potential trade and I'm sure it's just clickbait, but 'The Sportest' published an article this morning titled, Chris Paul With The Lakers Is ALMOST Set And Done:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/chris-paul-with-the-lakers-is-almost-set-and-done-nba-trade-rumors/vi-AA11Zi9n

I'm sure this is nonsense, but would be cool. I don't think the Lakers have any pieces the Suns want, so I'm not holding my breath.

It's a surprise if it's telling a real thing that it's almost there and about to be done.

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In other news, it looks like Kevin Love is finally going to take a buyout and move on from the Cavs. They're saying Golden State or New Jersey are potential landing spots. I think him joining the Warriors would really help fill the hole left in Draymond's 3 point shooting troubles.

Much better if he joins GSW. Well, I guess that many players would like to be added to the current GSW's roster as it's a champ caliber and that's what even KD did before. Still, waiting for the official buyout.
Both players, CP and Love surely are looking for a championship around.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 19, 2022, 06:36:10 AM

It's safe to say that Lakers is having a good back up with Dennis playing as the 2nd unit PG, if Westbrook will mess up, then the roster will still not struggle as Dennis is already familiar with Davis and Lebron and their plays as well. I'm expecting that Dennis will be very useful this season, hopefully he will remain healthy all throughout the season.

Looking at it that way, I also believe Dennis Schröder was a good choice for the Lakers.

I confess that he could be a "key player" for the Lakers in this season, by the way, he's fast and agile, an another important factor (already mentioned by other users in this topic), Dennis has played together with LeBron and AD a few seasons ago.

I look forward to seeing how Dennis performs for the Lakers this NBA season.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 19, 2022, 01:05:42 PM

This is the first I've heard of this potential trade and I'm sure it's just clickbait, but 'The Sportest' published an article this morning titled, Chris Paul With The Lakers Is ALMOST Set And Done:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/chris-paul-with-the-lakers-is-almost-set-and-done-nba-trade-rumors/vi-AA11Zi9n

I'm sure this is nonsense, but would be cool. I don't think the Lakers have any pieces the Suns want, so I'm not holding my breath.

In other news, it looks like Kevin Love is finally going to take a buyout and move on from the Cavs. They're saying Golden State or New Jersey are potential landing spots. I think him joining the Warriors would really help fill the hole left in Draymond's 3 point shooting troubles.

Tried to look this up but cannot find any article that will support it. It is probably just nonsense. The Lakers right now have quite a number of point guards already. I do not think they will sign Schroder if they are in the move to get Chris Paul.

Also, Chris Paul is chasing an NBA Championship. I do not think moving to the Lakers will be the best move for him, He has a better chance to get a ring in Phoenix than in the Lakers. Lebron and AD are great and they could benefit from having a point god in their team but they have health issues. And if you add Chris Paul, they will be another old team that cannot keep up with young teams.

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He added that he didn’t think he gave everything he could to the Lakers as he played alongside LeBron James and Anthony Davis, who he considers “two of the best players in the NBA.” Schröder continued, “At the end of the day, I feel like for me, personally, I got to be comfortable in the environment I’m in. I love the Lakers organization and they did great things, but I think for me, and this is just business, I don’t think I fit in 100 percent.”

https://hypebeast.com/2021/9/dennis-schroder-explains-why-he-turned-down-84-million-usd-los-angeles-lakers-deal-boston-celtics
So when he turn down that $84 million contract, him and his agent says that he is not a perfect fight with the Lakers.
And now he change his tune, and agreed with a minimum contract? What a sudden change of event, isn't it. From "I don't what to play with AD and Lebron because I can't evolved and i don't need that money, to now, I'm fine with $2 million, show me the money!!!".

Wow! If that is true then we all know why it went sour for him.
A hypocrite player plus a bad agent is a recipe for disaster. I doubt he will get a better contract after this. He must show something different in this 1-year contract playing for the Lakers to please other teams and offer better than a veteran contract.
He's already creating a new path by showing his skills again in the Eurobasket, he should've used that as his upper hand as there are many scouts lurking around that league to make offers to a lot of European players.
Well, I bet he and his agent cannot wait anymore.

Dennis Schroder is 29 years old but it does feel like he is really old for some reason. And I really can't explain why. And I really think that the price that they have accepted is actually okay. Not that cheap in my opinion. And with this price tag, he is going to be a really good value for money. But I hope that he will be able to perform well with the Lakers. But I hope at this age he has not become prone to injury. Staying healthy is going to be a big priority for him.

Wow, on the contrary I always thought he is quite a young player than he is. His playing style is also energetic, so he never seemed old to me. He was born in 1993, it could still be his prime years. Personally, I like the Lakers' move a lot. Schröder played really good in the Eurobasket Tournament and with responsibility. He could be the guard Lakers needs. I can understand the situation with Westbrook but he can still be a not starter and contribute to the team a lot. Westbrook is 33 years old(born in 88), gonna be 34 soon, and he was not in his prime last year, obviously. Schrönder can be the driving force Lakers needed. And still get a big help from Westbrook.

If you are insinuating that Schroeder is better than Westbrook right now you are crazy. Westbrook gets hack because of how much his salary is, but 10 out of 10 times I'd take Westbrook over Schroder. They are 2 different players though. Dennis will be a distributer and won't be looked for to be a scoring punch like Westbrook still will be looked at for.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 19, 2022, 01:05:42 PM

This is the first I've heard of this potential trade and I'm sure it's just clickbait, but 'The Sportest' published an article this morning titled, Chris Paul With The Lakers Is ALMOST Set And Done:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/chris-paul-with-the-lakers-is-almost-set-and-done-nba-trade-rumors/vi-AA11Zi9n

I'm sure this is nonsense, but would be cool. I don't think the Lakers have any pieces the Suns want, so I'm not holding my breath.

In other news, it looks like Kevin Love is finally going to take a buyout and move on from the Cavs. They're saying Golden State or New Jersey are potential landing spots. I think him joining the Warriors would really help fill the hole left in Draymond's 3 point shooting troubles.

Definitely click bait. No way Suns trade him to the Lakers only to have to compete against them and make the Lakers infinitely better. Those always pop up every day for the Knicks and none of them mean anything. 1 out of 1000 come somewhat true then that site can claim they have the inside sources. Law of averages lol. Kevin love on GS would just be unfair lol. The amount of open looks he'd get would be crazy.

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This is the first I've heard of this potential trade and I'm sure it's just clickbait, but 'The Sportest' published an article this morning titled, Chris Paul With The Lakers Is ALMOST Set And Done:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/chris-paul-with-the-lakers-is-almost-set-and-done-nba-trade-rumors/vi-AA11Zi9n

I'm sure this is nonsense, but would be cool. I don't think the Lakers have any pieces the Suns want, so I'm not holding my breath.

In other news, it looks like Kevin Love is finally going to take a buyout and move on from the Cavs. They're saying Golden State or New Jersey are potential landing spots. I think him joining the Warriors would really help fill the hole left in Draymond's 3 point shooting troubles.

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Yes, it's arguable that Russ could come back and show revenge to everyone that hasn't shown some love for him. But can't blame those doubters of him.
So, if he stays with the Lakers and there will be a new coach for them, I guess that's where he should bounce back and prove everyone wrong. It shouldn't be a blame game though as it's always a team play for this sport. But when there's a hole on the team, whether it's from the player, from the coaching staff, there should be ways of fixing it.

It's not good for the team if Westbrook is only thinking about that, what he should do is to make sure that this time he will be effective for the role that was given to him, and bouncing back while proving something is not a bad choice either but he should know that there's right timing for that because if he will rush it then the team will probably suffer and he will be blamed again for his actions. They should start working together as a team and leave no one behind when there are some problems.

I guess it's already attached to his main role for the team and at the same time, he's got to prove himself. So, it seems that he's going to stay with Lakers as the management doesn't want to trade him for max cap space.
I am sure that there are good trades that awaits for him but if it's the management has decided then he'll surely going to show everyone that he's going to play with the team better this time.

Something that he really needs to do while staying under Lakers' uniform,

He needs to show a lot of adjustment accepting his role and play with the system, with him playing the same old Russ
offensive threat wise he still has an upper edge compared to other stars. If he's on a mission to prove something, this
upcoming season is his best chance to impress the lakers fans.

He probably knows that as well and if he won't still straighten up this coming season then I won't be shocked that he will be staying up in free agency for some years or maybe offered by another team, but his contract will be much lower. One of the few main reasons why there's no other teams in the league that shows interests in trading him is because of his salary while his performance doesn't suit for it.

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They got lucky with that one, but at the same time Schroeder is also lucky as he might struggle to get a contract if Lakers did not signed him.
It's his 2nd chance, I'm sure he can prove himself, but hopefully he will not decline a possible offer for extension.

Disagree with you both. Lakers got a lucky signing at Schroder?

If you guys didn't know, no teams got interested in signing Schroder, only the Lakers, and look at what they offered, so low because they just want to give him chance. Schroder is the one that got lucky that the Lakers give him a chance.

If he is really a potential player, why his former teams decided not to sign him anymore?

For the Lakers this is probably the best they could have hoped for. They don't have the money to sign anyone special and Schroeder is more than decent for that kind of money. He is a serviceable veteran who can help them run the point. As long as the big guys stay healthy he won't need to score, just run a turnover free point and that's all they need from him.

It's a win-win situation for the both sides, Schroder needs this contract to prove that he can be of use to any team that is interested to him and the Lakers also needed an extra pair of hands to man their defense that doesn't have expensive salary. Moreover, Schroder won't be trying so hard in playing the EuroLeague if he doesn't have any plans, he surely knows that there will be scouts watching and he's right, because of that he managed to sign another contract.

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^^ I wouldn't call it humiliating to Westbrook though, and he should embrace it. Having someone like Dennis to play guard when he is having a bad night. So at least there will be alternatives as he is solely their point guard last season. So it might be change on him, perhaps coming off the bench. So there will be a lot of experiments on coach Ham, on how he will have to find the perfect fit in this new Lakers.

It's safe to say that Lakers is having a good back up with Dennis playing as the 2nd unit PG, if Westbrook will mess up, then the roster will still not struggle as Dennis is already familiar with Davis and Lebron and their plays as well. I'm expecting that Dennis will be very useful this season, hopefully he will remain healthy all throughout the season.

A good option indeed, Dennis already played with LeBron and AD. He's more familiar with his role no longer difficult on him to make that adjustments.

Knowing LeBron to command the entire squad, I see the value of Dennis in terms of offensive help.

He can shoot both outside and inside, with his capabilities to move and rotate the ball. It will be a wider space
for both LeBron and AD if they will allow Dennis to be their PG. Looking to see if LeBron will also adjust to this kind of game plan.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 19, 2022, 06:27:55 AM

^^ I wouldn't call it humiliating to Westbrook though, and he should embrace it. Having someone like Dennis to play guard when he is having a bad night. So at least there will be alternatives as he is solely their point guard last season. So it might be change on him, perhaps coming off the bench. So there will be a lot of experiments on coach Ham, on how he will have to find the perfect fit in this new Lakers.

It's safe to say that Lakers is having a good back up with Dennis playing as the 2nd unit PG, if Westbrook will mess up, then the roster will still not struggle as Dennis is already familiar with Davis and Lebron and their plays as well. I'm expecting that Dennis will be very useful this season, hopefully he will remain healthy all throughout the season.

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^^ I wouldn't call it humiliating to Westbrook though, and he should embrace it. Having someone like Dennis to play guard when he is having a bad night. So at least there will be alternatives as he is solely their point guard last season. So it might be change on him, perhaps coming off the bench. So there will be a lot of experiments on coach Ham, on how he will have to find the perfect fit in this new Lakers.

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Yes, it's arguable that Russ could come back and show revenge to everyone that hasn't shown some love for him. But can't blame those doubters of him.
So, if he stays with the Lakers and there will be a new coach for them, I guess that's where he should bounce back and prove everyone wrong. It shouldn't be a blame game though as it's always a team play for this sport. But when there's a hole on the team, whether it's from the player, from the coaching staff, there should be ways of fixing it.

It's not good for the team if Westbrook is only thinking about that, what he should do is to make sure that this time he will be effective for the role that was given to him, and bouncing back while proving something is not a bad choice either but he should know that there's right timing for that because if he will rush it then the team will probably suffer and he will be blamed again for his actions. They should start working together as a team and leave no one behind when there are some problems.

I guess it's already attached to his main role for the team and at the same time, he's got to prove himself. So, it seems that he's going to stay with Lakers as the management doesn't want to trade him for max cap space.
I am sure that there are good trades that awaits for him but if it's the management has decided then he'll surely going to show everyone that he's going to play with the team better this time.

He needs to show a lot of adjustment accepting his role and play with the system, with him playing the same old Russ
offensive threat wise he still has an upper edge compared to other stars. If he's on a mission to prove something, this
upcoming season is his best chance to impress the lakers fans.

Getting more guard in the rooster is like humiliating Westbrook because it shows that there team doesn't trust him anymore. That's why he really need to work hard on this so that he can regain back the trust of Lakers fan since if he disappoint them for second time again for sure he's career will be at risk and his all star status maybe taken out of his name plus his value might badly drop.

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... Slimmer and looks more fit.

Following the Howard strategy eh? Good for him. Maybe not a bad deal for teams if they can sign at minimum for a veteran.

He is serious, he wants to be faster and less prone to injury, well, I understand him because teams would not sign a liability even if they know how talented Cousins is.

IMO, if scouts will look out at what he did in Denver Nuggets that should be enough reason to sign him again. Not at the stats, the performance, the intensity he built whenever he entered the floor.
Now he is adding some spice to it by being more fit to avoid injuries so that he will be more valuable for any team that will pick him.
I guess that should add a bigger reason to receive a contract.

There are more known players that are still free agents.
DJ Agustin
Avery Bradley
When it comes to offensive power. Cousins and Melo are the names on top.

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