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Udonis Haslem signs a one-year contract with the Miami Heat and that will be his last season for the team. Despite low average playing time and only playing a few games within the last six seasons, the Miami Heat reportedly convinced him as they still need his locker room presence.
What's on my mind is that they want Haslem to be part of those players who stayed in the franchise for 20+ seasons. Dirk Nowitzki and Kobe Bryant are the only players in history to do that. This upcoming season, Haslem marked his 20th season on the Miami Heat.
It makes sense to believe for me that's the reason aside from appreciation by the Miami Heat.
If that's the internal problem, there's really a need for the management to solve it.
But as for trades, if there's a necessary player that they have to trade, there will goes the rumor. Most likely, the fans would love to see Westbrick go away and be traded.
While for Davis, he has to stay. We will see it then as we're about to see the season to start very soon and it's just a few months away.
But as for trades, if there's a necessary player that they have to trade, there will goes the rumor. Most likely, the fans would love to see Westbrick go away and be traded.
While for Davis, he has to stay. We will see it then as we're about to see the season to start very soon and it's just a few months away.
It's a problem that has been happening especially last season, it has not been solved yet. You know, when the Lakers won the championship, we already know that Davis was injury prone before he got acquired by the Lakers but that season he was healthy most of the time, especially in the playoffs that's why they got the win.
And the solution for this will come from the management but as far as I can see, there's no need for them trade him out of the team. Lebron likes to be with Davis and we all knew about that.
Because he's the one that's left the team while the others were traded after getting the championship back then.
Also, it would be cheaper to acquire rookies with great potential than a high-paid star when rebuilding.
Out of 30 teams, it's only about 1-2 teams that are successful in rebuilding with only young guys.
Teams should not just focus on just to wait for promising rookies.
If there is a team that affords to sign a player with a good caliber, risking some $$$ can be considered as long as that's not the only plan of that team but instead will do their best to provide quality teammates on that main player they aggressively signed.
As we can see, the Jazz management wants to rebuild its team significantly, and it looks like they are trying to collect as many draft picks as possible. By the way, they already got 5 draft picks in the Gobert trade, and now they wanted 7 draft picks for Mitchell. Obviously, the Jazz is asking way too much, and I think the Knicks management should think it over carefully before agreeing to any deal with the Jazz.
Well, yes, if we look at it that way, the Gobert trade (5 picks in the draft) was a positive trade (or not)... but is there really a possibility that they get 7 draft picks for Mitchell? Is this extremely viable for the team?Because they would be trading a excelent player for NBA rookies, that is, it would be something uncertain, because we wouldn't know if the nba rookies will be promising players.
If you are trying to rebuild, it is the best way forward, I guess. Just look at the teams that rebuild from the scratch. Golden State was successful in building a dynasty team from draft picks and some notable trades. Celtics is also on the verge of doing it. They have built around Tatum and Brown, their own picks. They are successful enough to reach the Finals last season. And I do not think that that is their peak. We can still expect more from Tatum, Brown, and company to achieve more. Also, it would be cheaper to acquire rookies with great potential than a high-paid star when rebuilding.
Because they would be trading a excelent player for NBA rookies, that is, it would be something uncertain, because we wouldn't know if the nba rookies will be promising players.
That's what I'm trying to point out. New York Knicks always get a good ticket every year on the rookie draft picks but still none of those picks become excellent. The gamble is still there and getting Donovan Mitchell is worth a gamble. Surrounding Mitchell with good role players is proven to be effective and we see that in his Utah Jazz experience but the only problem is they are choking in the playoffs.
That's part of the risks that lower-tier teams in the NBA should accept. If teams like NYK, will not gamble, nothing will change on their journey every season.
True, just look at OKC since trading PG and Westbrook and even CP3, then have tons of draft picks from trading that player and yet they can't get at least one decent players from the draft pick.
So it will be a huge gamble for the Knicks if they let go RJ and a bunch of draft picks for Donovan Mitchell. Let the Knicks focus on the current roster, I think they are good with Brunson already with Obi Toppin.
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That's what I'm trying to point out. New York Knicks always get a good ticket every year on the rookie draft picks but still none of those picks become excellent. The gamble is still there and getting Donovan Mitchell is worth a gamble. Surrounding Mitchell with good role players is proven to be effective and we see that in his Utah Jazz experience but the only problem is they are choking in the playoffs.
That's part of the risks that lower-tier teams in the NBA should accept. If teams like NYK, will not gamble, nothing will change on their journey every season.
Hmm... your point of view is interesting!That's part of the risks that lower-tier teams in the NBA should accept. If teams like NYK, will not gamble, nothing will change on their journey every season.
It's been a few seasons that the Utah Jazz is "suffocated" in the playoffs, I also noticed that, but I feel that the team is improving, slowly, but they are progressing.
If he gets some promises in the drafts and puts them to play together with Donovan Mitchell, in my opinion, I believe these rookies will have a good chance of evolve.
Because they would be trading a excelent player for NBA rookies, that is, it would be something uncertain, because we wouldn't know if the nba rookies will be promising players.
Since everything is uncertain, I believed New York Knicks should try to at least have experience gambling as part of rebuilding.
Nets already did but failed. What if the outcome won't be the same with them? That's part of the rebuilding process if those early plans didn't work out.
However, getting Donovan Mitchell should not just be the plan. If Knicks will not able to provide him with good teammates, their gamble will not be worth it.
What do you guys think of the Denovan Mitchell trade? does he really that expensive? for the jazz to want multiple players and some first-round picks to trade him?
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
Mitchelle had some injury problems but he is not an injury prone player. Mitchell is really a valuable player for the Jazz because they relied their offense mostly on him, that's why Mitchell has the liberty to shoot the ball anytime he wants, and that's make the team suffer during the playoffs.
Now, if the Knicks sees him as a big help for their success, they should be willing to risk and give the Jazz demand to acquire Mitchell.
Mitchell would be a great help to the Knicks if ever he is acquired by them. But the demand of Jazz for the trade is just too much. Knicks would not be able to add to their power if all their picks will be gone. And it could easily go wrong. Look at the Nets, they have given away all their picks, but their trades to get the help for Durant and Kyrie did not pan out. Now, they want to rebuild but they do not have picks and Durant and Irving want to leave. The same could happen if the Mitchell acquisition did not pan out. They would not be able to rebuild without draft picks.
Because they would be trading a excelent player for NBA rookies, that is, it would be something uncertain, because we wouldn't know if the nba rookies will be promising players.
That's what I'm trying to point out. New York Knicks always get a good ticket every year on the rookie draft picks but still none of those picks become excellent. The gamble is still there and getting Donovan Mitchell is worth a gamble. Surrounding Mitchell with good role players is proven to be effective and we see that in his Utah Jazz experience but the only problem is they are choking in the playoffs.
That's part of the risks that lower-tier teams in the NBA should accept. If teams like NYK, will not gamble, nothing will change on their journey every season.
As we can see, the Jazz management wants to rebuild its team significantly, and it looks like they are trying to collect as many draft picks as possible. By the way, they already got 5 draft picks in the Gobert trade, and now they wanted 7 draft picks for Mitchell. Obviously, the Jazz is asking way too much, and I think the Knicks management should think it over carefully before agreeing to any deal with the Jazz.
Well, yes, if we look at it that way, the Gobert trade (5 picks in the draft) was a positive trade (or not)... but is there really a possibility that they get 7 draft picks for Mitchell? Is this extremely viable for the team?Because they would be trading a excelent player for NBA rookies, that is, it would be something uncertain, because we wouldn't know if the nba rookies will be promising players.
Obviously, the Jazz is asking way too much, and I think the Knicks management should think it over carefully before agreeing to any deal with the Jazz.
It's been a long time since New York Knicks don't have a consistent primary scorer that's why getting Donovan Mitchell is a big help to them.
For me, they should just gamble too.
In the first place, they are always getting a good position on the draft pick but never experienced being lifted by those rookies they have selected.
If that's the case for several seasons now, it's worth getting Mitchell and giving up the future picks.
What do you guys think of the Denovan Mitchell trade? does he really that expensive? for the jazz to want multiple players and some first-round picks to trade him?
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
Well the Rudy Gobert trade has already set the trend in this year trade and so I think that will be the barometer for major players, asking future draft picks to be included in the trade.
Of course, it's going to be a big risk for them and as we can see on the Durant package, teams are not willing to sacrifice their future draft picks and that's why no teams are willing to bite on it, because at least 4 or 5 future picks is what the Nets wanted + some major players too.
All this talk about 6/7 first round picks PLUS some of the Knicks young players is laughable. Leon rose is probably laughing all day at this. Q grimes, quickley, rj, cam Reddish, IQ, and some combination of those players and that amount of first round picks for Donovan is laughable. Donovan is nice but what strip your entire youth and future for possibly a 4 spot in the eastern division lol. Nah f that.
This is the risk on gambling your draft picks to an all star player because you don’t know if they will be play out well to the team or they will sucks which they did on Durant and Irving case. I strongly preferred cultivating players from draft pick like what GSW did to there current roster because there effect will be last longer compared to players like Lebron, KD and other bandwagon player that keeps jumping on other team just to get championship. This kind of players is a high risk investment to whoever team that will acquire them.
Danny Ainge knows what he is doing and he was the guy that managed to build this Celtics squad along with Brad Stevens. But at the same time, there isn't really anything that we could discuss further about it until we get more information but knowing how amazing trades they have done in Celtics, with the Utah Jazz they could rebuild amazingly and do the same thing there and get amazing draft picks again.I suppose Mitchell may or may not worth it, but if I know Ainge then I know that even if he doesn't, he will find a way to get those picks one way or another from some team. Utah doesn't have what it takes to win, that's why they are blowing up the team and rebuilding, so picks is the most important part.
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Mitchell would be a great help to the Knicks if ever he is acquired by them. But the demand of Jazz for the trade is just too much. Knicks would not be able to add to their power if all their picks will be gone. And it could easily go wrong. Look at the Nets, they have given away all their picks, but their trades to get the help for Durant and Kyrie did not pan out. Now, they want to rebuild but they do not have picks and Durant and Irving want to leave. The same could happen if the Mitchell acquisition did not pan out. They would not be able to rebuild without draft picks.
As we can see, the Jazz management wants to rebuild its team significantly, and it looks like they are trying to collect as many draft picks as possible. By the way, they already got 5 draft picks in the Gobert trade, and now they wanted 7 draft picks for Mitchell. Obviously, the Jazz is asking way too much, and I think the Knicks management should think it over carefully before agreeing to any deal with the Jazz.Mitchell is not going to work closely with Jazz, as far as I am concerned. Getting Mitchell and losing jazz is obviously not going to be worth it. In order to acquire a player who might not even fit perfectly in the team, we could lose someone who would be able to provide a very stable performance? This is not something I see happening.
At this moment it does not feel like they are in a very strong position because obviously Kevin Durant and Kyrie want to leave. Nevertheless, they seem to be acting a little bit like Drama Queens right now, but they are also quite significant.
Mitchell would be a great help to the Knicks if ever he is acquired by them. But the demand of Jazz for the trade is just too much. Knicks would not be able to add to their power if all their picks will be gone. And it could easily go wrong. Look at the Nets, they have given away all their picks, but their trades to get the help for Durant and Kyrie did not pan out. Now, they want to rebuild but they do not have picks and Durant and Irving want to leave. The same could happen if the Mitchell acquisition did not pan out. They would not be able to rebuild without draft picks.
As we can see, the Jazz management wants to rebuild its team significantly, and it looks like they are trying to collect as many draft picks as possible. By the way, they already got 5 draft picks in the Gobert trade, and now they wanted 7 draft picks for Mitchell. Obviously, the Jazz is asking way too much, and I think the Knicks management should think it over carefully before agreeing to any deal with the Jazz.
What do you guys think of the Denovan Mitchell trade? does he really that expensive? for the jazz to want multiple players and some first-round picks to trade him?
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
Mitchelle had some injury problems but he is not an injury prone player. Mitchell is really a valuable player for the Jazz because they relied their offense mostly on him, that's why Mitchell has the liberty to shoot the ball anytime he wants, and that's make the team suffer during the playoffs.
Now, if the Knicks sees him as a big help for their success, they should be willing to risk and give the Jazz demand to acquire Mitchell.
Mitchell would be a great help to the Knicks if ever he is acquired by them. But the demand of Jazz for the trade is just too much. Knicks would not be able to add to their power if all their picks will be gone. And it could easily go wrong. Look at the Nets, they have given away all their picks, but their trades to get the help for Durant and Kyrie did not pan out. Now, they want to rebuild but they do not have picks and Durant and Irving want to leave. The same could happen if the Mitchell acquisition did not pan out. They would not be able to rebuild without draft picks.
This is the risk on gambling your draft picks to an all star player because you don’t know if they will be play out well to the team or they will sucks which they did on Durant and Irving case. I strongly preferred cultivating players from draft pick like what GSW did to there current roster because there effect will be last longer compared to players like Lebron, KD and other bandwagon player that keeps jumping on other team just to get championship. This kind of players is a high risk investment to whoever team that will acquire them.
What do you guys think of the Denovan Mitchell trade? does he really that expensive? for the jazz to want multiple players and some first-round picks to trade him?
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
I would not want this if I were the Knicks, especially if it's RJ Barrett that will be on the line. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
That kid lift their team up whenever they needed help while Julius Randle is suffering from an unknown disease of consecutive off nights.
Barrett, Mitchell, and Brunson is a good combo but that's all. Randle is trying to play point which is unusual for his size and his turnovers are higher whenever he handles the ball. While Barrett was used at playing deep in the paint acting more like a power forward.
But according to the article, Coach Tom Thibodeau prefers him out than Randle. Something must be happening behind the scenes.
What do you guys think of the Denovan Mitchell trade? does he really that expensive? for the jazz to want multiple players and some first-round picks to trade him?
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
Mitchelle had some injury problems but he is not an injury prone player. Mitchell is really a valuable player for the Jazz because they relied their offense mostly on him, that's why Mitchell has the liberty to shoot the ball anytime he wants, and that's make the team suffer during the playoffs.
Now, if the Knicks sees him as a big help for their success, they should be willing to risk and give the Jazz demand to acquire Mitchell.
Mitchell would be a great help to the Knicks if ever he is acquired by them. But the demand of Jazz for the trade is just too much. Knicks would not be able to add to their power if all their picks will be gone. And it could easily go wrong. Look at the Nets, they have given away all their picks, but their trades to get the help for Durant and Kyrie did not pan out. Now, they want to rebuild but they do not have picks and Durant and Irving want to leave. The same could happen if the Mitchell acquisition did not pan out. They would not be able to rebuild without draft picks.
What do you guys think of the Denovan Mitchell trade? does he really that expensive? for the jazz to want multiple players and some first-round picks to trade him?
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/knicks-still-cautious-about-dealing-draft-assets-for-donovan-mitchell.html
You can read here about the Knicks' decision on how they are cautious on this one because this is really not a joke and their future is at stake. If Mitchell will messed up, regarding his health, it's really hard to recover from it.
Mitchelle had some injury problems but he is not an injury prone player. Mitchell is really a valuable player for the Jazz because they relied their offense mostly on him, that's why Mitchell has the liberty to shoot the ball anytime he wants, and that's make the team suffer during the playoffs.
Now, if the Knicks sees him as a big help for their success, they should be willing to risk and give the Jazz demand to acquire Mitchell.
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