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Usually, that's what we see. When a player like someone from the bench became popular and showed how great he is. There will be a raise once the contract ends.
And for sure that renewal is going to be there but it also depends on the other teams offer if it's higher than the salary. But I hope that most of them retain and will do the same as what Curry have done for his career of just staying in the Warriors.

For sure, he will get what he deserved once his contract ends. He will be offered more because he showed a lot of promised early without Klay as being as the other half of the Splash Brothers. But when Klay comes back, he embraces himself as the 3rd man and then coming off the bench.

Maybe next year he will get the 6th man award? coming off the bench and giving the Warriors 20+ a night. That will be huge, similar to Hero, this season 6th man.

Well, let's just see how this man will progress as he's one of the promising teammates there. And we just love to see all of them stay and I think that the Warriors management is fond of just allowing their players to stay and if someone wants to go away, they'll just allow it.
So, they're all in favor of anyone who has a request to go out and in as long as it will help them grow and as well as the team to grow as well.

We've seen him progressed already, from a first five player when Thompson is out to a 6th man coming from the bench. And he has a good series or playoffs, becoming the 4th scoring options.

So if his contract is up, then maybe he will get a bump from his salary because of how the give for the Warriors this season. It's hard though as the Warriors has spend too much money already for this big 3. He will be a good catch for every team, might be like the situation of Caruso with the Lakers before. But when he get out he was being offered huge salary.

Warriors organization is open if players will leave them to earn a huge amount of money,

they will adjust and continue to play in the same system, if Wiggins will choose to go, which he really deserves to earn
more after that performance this season, Warriors will let him and wish him well. Remember that in this league and
with the type of mindset players and agents have, they will after for the money more than after the ring.

Yeah, but it's just a question on how he will fit in a new team. With Warriors, he was given time and maybe a good development program. That's why he blossom and became part of the integral team. So it's a win-win for him if the Warriors have no choice but to let him go. And as I have said, that salary offer for him will be good that he might not have a second thoughts of him leaving the team that gave him his first ring and hopefully he can developed more somewhere else.

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^^ Yes, and we might say it's a good decision on his part. Maybe he is not really prepared to be a head coach for now and wanted to learn more from Steve Kerr, or simply just want to continue with the winnings attitude in Golden State that's why he chooses to stay.

Probably Mike D'Antoni will be better suited for Charlotte as a head coach. He has a proven method already and it's could be a perfect fit it he is going to be hired by the Jordan.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on June 19, 2022, 11:04:27 PM

The Mavericks already did a big trade and a win trade for them as they got Christian Wood in exchange for some bench players and draft picks. Luka now has a pick and roll buddy though he lost a real life buddy in Boban which is kinda sad ;(.

That's the first big trade that I have seen reported by Woj. Yeah, it's sad to see Boban leaving the Mavs as he was a part of where they get their energy before the game starts.
Most of the movements now are about the coaching staff and here's one of it.

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ESPN Sources: Kenny Atkinson has decided he won’t become the Charlotte Hornets’ head coach and will remain with Golden State as top assistant. After being offered job during the NBA Finals, further conversations led Atkinson to believe it would be best to remain with Warriors.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1538242688654385153?s=20&t=A240y6ih9D04k4R8HWYSZw
Two are left for the Charlotte coach position namely Mike D'Antoni and Terry Stotts.
They are a run-and-gun style of a team with young core players on their roster, Mike D'Antoni might best suit their need for he is known for that type of offensive play but they need an assistant who will focus on defense.

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Usually, that's what we see. When a player like someone from the bench became popular and showed how great he is. There will be a raise once the contract ends.
And for sure that renewal is going to be there but it also depends on the other teams offer if it's higher than the salary. But I hope that most of them retain and will do the same as what Curry have done for his career of just staying in the Warriors.

For sure, he will get what he deserved once his contract ends. He will be offered more because he showed a lot of promised early without Klay as being as the other half of the Splash Brothers. But when Klay comes back, he embraces himself as the 3rd man and then coming off the bench.

Maybe next year he will get the 6th man award? coming off the bench and giving the Warriors 20+ a night. That will be huge, similar to Hero, this season 6th man.

Well, let's just see how this man will progress as he's one of the promising teammates there. And we just love to see all of them stay and I think that the Warriors management is fond of just allowing their players to stay and if someone wants to go away, they'll just allow it.
So, they're all in favor of anyone who has a request to go out and in as long as it will help them grow and as well as the team to grow as well.

We've seen him progressed already, from a first five player when Thompson is out to a 6th man coming from the bench. And he has a good series or playoffs, becoming the 4th scoring options.

So if his contract is up, then maybe he will get a bump from his salary because of how the give for the Warriors this season. It's hard though as the Warriors has spend too much money already for this big 3. He will be a good catch for every team, might be like the situation of Caruso with the Lakers before. But when he get out he was being offered huge salary.

Warriors organization is open if players will leave them to earn a huge amount of money,

they will adjust and continue to play in the same system, if Wiggins will choose to go, which he really deserves to earn
more after that performance this season, Warriors will let him and wish him well. Remember that in this league and
with the type of mindset players and agents have, they will after for the money more than after the ring.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 19, 2022, 06:40:04 AM

Kuminga is good but he does not play the Center position, they need a center who can defend the paint and we saw that even Looney is not enough to defend the bigs of their opponent. They need someone that is healthy and who can play defense consistently, I think that's their focus for the next season to come.

They have Wiseman already and he is enough to fill that Center position. 2nd big? Looney will be their next choice of with how Looney played this past season, it might interchange. Looney as their primary center while Wiseman is their 2nd choice.

In the end, the Warriors spent many seasons playing small ball already so having a Center isn't a problem for them. Kuminga is athletic and tall as well and I believe that he can still play the Center position but not as efficient as other bigs out there. After all, the Warriors are known for their small ball. Quicker rotation and more shooters as well.

I thought that the conversation with the Warriors and Celtics is over already because the season is over.
Anybody here observing the moves and trades of different teams this off-season?

The Mavericks already did a big trade and a win trade for them as they got Christian Wood in exchange for some bench players and draft picks. Luka now has a pick and roll buddy though he lost a real life buddy in Boban which is kinda sad ;(.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 19, 2022, 06:40:04 AM

Kuminga is good but he does not play the Center position, they need a center who can defend the paint and we saw that even Looney is not enough to defend the bigs of their opponent. They need someone that is healthy and who can play defense consistently, I think that's their focus for the next season to come.

I have to disagree that Golden State Warriors are really eyeing a Big Man to enhance and improved their defensive phase. It's been several seasons already where they are always playing a small ball. Instead of covering what's lacking in their defense, they are destroying their opponents with a good field goal percentage.

That strategy is proven and effective since then. No need for them to fill the gap for a Center position. And besides, even with a small ball, it's not that they are totally not good in defense. There are several times here in the playoffs where they are able to limit their opponent's offensive phase.

Just for a recap, the Nuggets, Grizzlies, Mavericks, and Celtics are all good teams with a good FG % in the recent season but not a problem actually for the Warriors.

Warriors play small ball, generally speaking. Smaller players are quicker on rotations which is what GSW thrive on. Horford did have a really good game because of it, but with quick help and making sure he doesnt get 1v1, they covered each other pretty well. Made it hard for Celtics to isolate a player and get to the rim easier, as one would try to do against small ball.

Horford had a good series because he is shooting the ball outside, he is not taking advantage of his height. And yes the Warriors play small ball and they are quick, even their supposedly center, Draymond is small for his position. But look at how he pushes the phase that Horford or even Williams can't catch up with him. And then easy pass to Curry or Klay for a 3 in transition. And we also did see how they take advantage of Horford, just a simple screen and he has to guard Curry in which he can get past him because big Al is slow. Again another good looks or isolation play by Curry and penetration drive.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 19, 2022, 06:40:04 AM

Kuminga is good but he does not play the Center position, they need a center who can defend the paint and we saw that even Looney is not enough to defend the bigs of their opponent. They need someone that is healthy and who can play defense consistently, I think that's their focus for the next season to come.

I have to disagree that Golden State Warriors are really eyeing a Big Man to enhance and improved their defensive phase. It's been several seasons already where they are always playing a small ball. Instead of covering what's lacking in their defense, they are destroying their opponents with a good field goal percentage.

That strategy is proven and effective since then. No need for them to fill the gap for a Center position. And besides, even with a small ball, it's not that they are totally not good in defense. There are several times here in the playoffs where they are able to limit their opponent's offensive phase.

Just for a recap, the Nuggets, Grizzlies, Mavericks, and Celtics are all good teams with a good FG % in the recent season but not a problem actually for the Warriors.

Warriors play small ball, generally speaking. Smaller players are quicker on rotations which is what GSW thrive on. Horford did have a really good game because of it, but with quick help and making sure he doesnt get 1v1, they covered each other pretty well. Made it hard for Celtics to isolate a player and get to the rim easier, as one would try to do against small ball.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 19, 2022, 06:40:04 AM

Kuminga is good but he does not play the Center position, they need a center who can defend the paint and we saw that even Looney is not enough to defend the bigs of their opponent. They need someone that is healthy and who can play defense consistently, I think that's their focus for the next season to come.

I have to disagree that Golden State Warriors are really eyeing a Big Man to enhance and improved their defensive phase. It's been several seasons already where they are always playing a small ball. Instead of covering what's lacking in their defense, they are destroying their opponents with a good field goal percentage.

That strategy is proven and effective since then. No need for them to fill the gap for a Center position. And besides, even with a small ball, it's not that they are totally not good in defense. There are several times here in the playoffs where they are able to limit their opponent's offensive phase.

Just for a recap, the Nuggets, Grizzlies, Mavericks, and Celtics are all good teams with a good FG % in the recent season but not a problem actually for the Warriors.

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Quote from: Jating on June 18, 2022, 03:58:34 PM

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I've seen those players that have taken the spotlight during the finals and they were traded afterward because their contract expired and as well as a good offer has come to get them.
That's inevitable and for these players to grow, they have to accept that since they've got not exclusive contract that wants them to retain with the team unless it will actually come from the GSW management itself that will offer them to stay.

He can do that as well, make a salary cut just to stay with the Warriors and chase another ring. Admit it or not, we are surprised on how good Wiggins is with the Warriors this season. When he was with the Wolves, he was very inconsistent and that what the Wolves trade him. But if he doesn't want to have a pay cut, then I guess there will be no choice for the Warriors management, they could let go of him and then look for other options or even developed their own players.

Yeah, no doubt that he did well with them. Well, as someone who has gotten a ring, will he be willing to stay and take a cut? I don't know. I don't have an idea how things work with these things on them.
But one thing for sure is that he'll probably get a raise or at least everyone from them, a raise not in a manner of salary but probably playing time and that's what he needed to go on the peak for his career.

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Usually, that's what we see. When a player like someone from the bench became popular and showed how great he is. There will be a raise once the contract ends.
And for sure that renewal is going to be there but it also depends on the other teams offer if it's higher than the salary. But I hope that most of them retain and will do the same as what Curry have done for his career of just staying in the Warriors.

For sure, he will get what he deserved once his contract ends. He will be offered more because he showed a lot of promised early without Klay as being as the other half of the Splash Brothers. But when Klay comes back, he embraces himself as the 3rd man and then coming off the bench.

Maybe next year he will get the 6th man award? coming off the bench and giving the Warriors 20+ a night. That will be huge, similar to Hero, this season 6th man.

Well, let's just see how this man will progress as he's one of the promising teammates there. And we just love to see all of them stay and I think that the Warriors management is fond of just allowing their players to stay and if someone wants to go away, they'll just allow it.
So, they're all in favor of anyone who has a request to go out and in as long as it will help them grow and as well as the team to grow as well.

We've seen him progressed already, from a first five player when Thompson is out to a 6th man coming from the bench. And he has a good series or playoffs, becoming the 4th scoring options.

So if his contract is up, then maybe he will get a bump from his salary because of how the give for the Warriors this season. It's hard though as the Warriors has spend too much money already for this big 3. He will be a good catch for every team, might be like the situation of Caruso with the Lakers before. But when he get out he was being offered huge salary.

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Quote from: TravelMug on June 18, 2022, 12:09:22 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 17, 2022, 10:56:37 PM

Usually, that's what we see. When a player like someone from the bench became popular and showed how great he is. There will be a raise once the contract ends.
And for sure that renewal is going to be there but it also depends on the other teams offer if it's higher than the salary. But I hope that most of them retain and will do the same as what Curry have done for his career of just staying in the Warriors.

For sure, he will get what he deserved once his contract ends. He will be offered more because he showed a lot of promised early without Klay as being as the other half of the Splash Brothers. But when Klay comes back, he embraces himself as the 3rd man and then coming off the bench.

Maybe next year he will get the 6th man award? coming off the bench and giving the Warriors 20+ a night. That will be huge, similar to Hero, this season 6th man.

Well, let's just see how this man will progress as he's one of the promising teammates there. And we just love to see all of them stay and I think that the Warriors management is fond of just allowing their players to stay and if someone wants to go away, they'll just allow it.
So, they're all in favor of anyone who has a request to go out and in as long as it will help them grow and as well as the team to grow as well.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 19, 2022, 06:40:04 AM

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So many rumors lurking around after the championship win by the Warriors. One of them is cutting the luxury tax.
This will not be easy for the team to let go some of their players as they really did great in their run to achieve the best ending. And, they have rookies who are proving worthy to be kept. Kuminga especially who might be their next key if they want a back to back championship. We know their weak point is the paint but with Kuminga gaining more experience they may patch that big hole that had been missing in the team. A backup player for Draymond and Looney.

Kuminga is good but he does not play the Center position, they need a center who can defend the paint and we saw that even Looney is not enough to defend the bigs of their opponent. They need someone that is healthy and who can play defense consistently, I think that's their focus for the next season to come.

Let alone that part and who to let go, I feel like a team that has a brand new stadium and a new championship (4th in 8 years) wouldn't really be making that much loss would they? I mean even if they make a loss in the seasonal way, their value must be going up. So, on paper you may lose 100 million in a single year, but could make 250 million increase to your teams value for example and that would be good.

I still do not know Warriors financial situation, but luxury tax, especially when it is a repeat thing, does make it hard for teams to continue. Considering they have plenty of players that are getting the max, it is going to be pretty difficult for them to get under.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 19, 2022, 05:07:48 AM

They will keep the Warriors big 3 no matter what. Draymond and Thompson will remain in the team, only Wiggins will likely be traded so they can increase the salary of players like Poole and will have more backup. I think there will be no one vs one trade, it's probably 2 to 3 players in exchange for Wiggins.

Curry, Thompson and Green is the Warriors' great trio!!
I believe Wiggins can be traded (if I'm not mistaken, even though he shows intentions of wanting to stay on the team), or even Jordan Poole, although he proved to be a gem for Warriors and that he can be polished, improving even more his performance and future!

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 19, 2022, 06:40:04 AM

Kuminga is good but he does not play the Center position, they need a center who can defend the paint and we saw that even Looney is not enough to defend the bigs of their opponent. They need someone that is healthy and who can play defense consistently, I think that's their focus for the next season to come.

Looney is fine he just has some bad timing like everyone else had in the worse play but right now I think they will go for a young guns Center position to further strengthen their team and win back-to-back championships. since they are completely back as a team when were they dominated the league a few years ago, They really need to train some new rookies to completely have a strong team throughout the decade.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 19, 2022, 06:40:04 AM

Quote from: Reid on June 19, 2022, 05:56:28 AM

So many rumors lurking around after the championship win by the Warriors. One of them is cutting the luxury tax.
This will not be easy for the team to let go some of their players as they really did great in their run to achieve the best ending. And, they have rookies who are proving worthy to be kept. Kuminga especially who might be their next key if they want a back to back championship. We know their weak point is the paint but with Kuminga gaining more experience they may patch that big hole that had been missing in the team. A backup player for Draymond and Looney.

Kuminga is good but he does not play the Center position, they need a center who can defend the paint and we saw that even Looney is not enough to defend the bigs of their opponent. They need someone that is healthy and who can play defense consistently, I think that's their focus for the next season to come.

With the way they played this season, if the issue with salary cap got resolved, I guess, or for me, they should not let anyone to go,

Kuminga might not have his impact during the playoffs but we have seen this young rookie and with Wiseman, the duo can help

the shooters providing additional threat inside. A lot of rumors that will continue to circulate and knowing how the process there's

no guarantee for anyone aside from those stars who already have their contract being signed, unless a something happens along the way

those contracts will remain intact.

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Quote from: Reid on June 19, 2022, 05:56:28 AM

So many rumors lurking around after the championship win by the Warriors. One of them is cutting the luxury tax.
This will not be easy for the team to let go some of their players as they really did great in their run to achieve the best ending. And, they have rookies who are proving worthy to be kept. Kuminga especially who might be their next key if they want a back to back championship. We know their weak point is the paint but with Kuminga gaining more experience they may patch that big hole that had been missing in the team. A backup player for Draymond and Looney.

Kuminga is good but he does not play the Center position, they need a center who can defend the paint and we saw that even Looney is not enough to defend the bigs of their opponent. They need someone that is healthy and who can play defense consistently, I think that's their focus for the next season to come.

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I can understand that the Warriors are already bleeding with a huge luxury tax this season and it will only grow bigger if they will not sacrifice some of their key players. Jordan Poole's contract is still not expiring. But nearly half of its roster contracts are expiring and some of them are important like Looney, Payton II and Porter. I can think of the year when Dallas Mavericks became champion. But ended up losing Tyson Chandler the next season due luxury tax.

It is sad letting go on Wiggins and Looney. But maybe they can re-sign Looney if Wiggins is out. Although we really do not know how high can the other teams offer Looney considering his 5 season finals experience and his 3 rings. Payton II maybe stolen to. Despite his low playing time, his accuracy is just too good to ignore.

Few years ago when Chased Center was still under construction, a Warrior officer mentioned in a video that they are planning to keep the splash brothers in San Francisco in their whole careers. It also says that both Steph and Klay will also be included in their stocks which means they are also co-owners.

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So many rumors lurking around after the championship win by the Warriors. One of them is cutting the luxury tax.
This will not be easy for the team to let go some of their players as they really did great in their run to achieve the best ending. And, they have rookies who are proving worthy to be kept. Kuminga especially who might be their next key if they want a back to back championship. We know their weak point is the paint but with Kuminga gaining more experience they may patch that big hole that had been missing in the team. A backup player for Draymond and Looney.

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Both of them have vital role to the GSW championships so for sure many teams are so interested to get them because they are truly a huge asset to be added on their team if they got them. But I'm sure even if how good they are they cannot replicate what they do in Warriors if the coach doesn't know how to use them very well because there success today also matter on game style of their coach.

Yes, I have no doubts about that! I believe the only player that is nearly ""impossible"" to trade is Curry. The others teams will need to offer something very valuable in return.

Curry is in an excellent phase and is already 34 years old, I also don't know if he would like to go to another team.

Players + chemistry + excellent coach makes a perfect mix!
Especially in the Warriors, where several players have been playing together for a long time.
Proof of this is the chemistry between Curry + Thompson + Green + Iguodala
(especially Curry and Thompson)

They will keep the Warriors big 3 no matter what. Draymond and Thompson will remain in the team, only Wiggins will likely be traded so they can increase the salary of players like Poole and will have more backup. I think there will be no one vs one trade, it's probably 2 to 3 players in exchange for Wiggins.

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